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What don't New Orleans, Haiti and Japan have in common?

When New Orleans was severely hit by hurricane Katrina a few years ago, as you all remember, the Red Cross received a considerable amount of donations to help those who were affected by the disaster. Then an earthquake hit Haiti last year, and once again the Red Cross received funds to help those who had had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. And, finally, last month the Red Cross could also count with the goodwill of strangers who wanted to help the residents of Northeastern Japan, whose homeland was destroyed by a tsunami.

Now, the really odd thing about it: If you had to guess, who do you think received most money?

If the figures provided by CNN are correct, the earthquake in 2010 decimated more than a fourth of Port-au-Prince's population... yet they received the least. The body count in Japan is approximately 10% of Haiti's, yet they received more money than the Caribbean island. And, for every 10 Japanese people dead in the tsunami, Hurricane Katrina killed 1 person in the American South. And, even if "George Bush doesn't care about black people", Louisiana amassed nearly two times more donations than Japan.

Why? Was it because we couldn't see Haitians shaking on TV during the earthquake, but we saw Japanese houses being washed away and we had even more footage from Katrina? Is it because Americans could relate to Southerners, the Japanese felt more compassionate towards North-Easterners, and Haitians had no one to turn to?

Any ideas?

Edit: The CNN video thingy is acting up :mad:

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Americans take care of their own (kind of). people donated to Katrina victims because it was in their own back yard. American's don't care about islanders or Japenese. i mean, sure....we do...I'm not saying *everyone* doesn't....but in the grand worldwide picture, we'd rather help out in-country vs out-of-country.

Also, there is something to say about people's perception with disaster and how is strikes.

You even say the word "Katrina" and everyone cringes because it was a huge visible storm that everyone (should have) saw coming. then it hit and lasted for hours. it was a really big storm that was covered even before it hit.

earthquakes and tsunamis happen on ordinary sunny-sky days. no one knows about it until the shit happens. and 3-10 minutes it's over. and then it's just aftermath.

tsunamis arent over in 3-10 minutes you idiot.

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Originally posted by runcmd so you are claiming only americans donate? wtf kinda idiot are you? typical US scumbag

I was talking about American donations.

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Originally posted by runcmd tsunamis arent over in 3-10 minutes you idiot.

watch all the videos on youtube, in a matter of 3-10 minutes a tsuanmi hit. sure, the full affects lasted longer, but they don't last longer than hurricanes do.

do you seriously believe thats the reason? my god youre a fucking american looser. theres no difference between "american donations" or other donations. moron.

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Originally posted by runcmd tsunamis arent over in 3-10 minutes you idiot.

Hi palm!

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Originally posted by runcmd looser.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Simon Patterson

hes a whore and you know it.

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Originally posted by runcmd do you seriously believe thats the reason? my god youre a fucking american looser. theres no difference between "american donations" or other donations. moron.

I was under the impression that the Red Cross that was mentioned in the OP was the Amreican Red Cross. http://www.redcross.org/

so, with the idea of an American organization in mind, it makes more sense to me that Americans would donate money to an American Organization to help out other Americans in their own country (i.e. Katrina).

if the Earthquake/tsunami that hit Japan hit California, more Americans would have donated to the American Red Cross.

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Originally posted by runcmd do you seriously believe thats the reason? my god youre a fucking american looser. theres no difference between "american donations" or other donations. moron.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/h...cross-donations

tbills is right. Americans donated the most (to the Red Cross, at least) because it happened in the US. It hit close to home, so to speak.

Is there some sort of objection to this?

least money went to Haiti was because a lot of it was stuck in governement crap


less donations for japan ... it's fairly strange but some people have speculated why should we help a rich country when they can handle it all themselves?

truly strange behavior

Haiti

On a serious and more literate note, Katrina almost completely decimated a city of over a million people. I'm not entirely sure about the exact numbers, but the Tsunami in Japan cause the evacuation of not even half that total.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...-donations#data

If you look at that site, you'll see that the US donated 4 times as much money to Haiti as the next highest country's donations. Whether it came from individual citizens or not, calling Americans assholes when their country donated 4 times as much money as the next is kind of misguided don't you think?

What does Haiti produce that we don't already have a hold on?

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Originally posted by tubularbills I was under the impression that the Red Cross that was mentioned in the OP was the Amreican Red Cross. http://www.redcross.org/ so, with the idea of an American organization in mind, it makes more sense to me that Americans would donate money to an American Organization to help out other Americans in their own country (i.e. Katrina). if the Earthquake/tsunami that hit Japan hit California, more Americans would have donated to the American Red Cross.

The American Red Cross is the designated US affiliate of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement.

I would think the CNN article is referring to ICRC as a whole, and not just one local chapter.

sweet irony is that america is one of the countries that gives the most foreign aid as a whole yet is one of the countries that the least per citizen

How is it not smash-you-over-the-head obvious that a country would donate more money to disaster victims of their own country?

As for Haiti, their government lacks the infrastructure that is helpful for the procurement of donations that are sent from other countries. If I recall correctly, there were some allegations of donation money never reaching anybody who could actually benefit from it. The government of Haiti is unstable at best, so in that situation the "where is this money actually going?" question absolutely comes into play.

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Originally posted by runcmd and if u divide on the number of citizens living in the countrys? US citizens on an average doesnt give shit (in both meanings). get off your high american douche horse.

I'm not even American you fucking moron.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 On a serious and more literate note, Katrina almost completely decimated a city of over a million people. I'm not entirely sure about the exact numbers, but the Tsunami in Japan cause the evacuation of not even half that total. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...-donations#data If you look at that site, you'll see that the US donated 4 times as much money as the next highest country's donations.

Also, not all donations went to New Orleans. Katrina's damage in Mississippi and Eastern Louisiana was also very widespread. personally, when Katrina happened, I donated to help out folks in Mississippi, not Louisiana.

All in all, the three disasters are very hard to compare on numerous scales.

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Originally posted by runcmd and if u divide on the number of citizens living in the countrys? US citizens on an average doesnt give shit (in both meanings). get off your high american douche horse.

Wow, how did one, single thread manage to gather so very many Red Cross donors in it?! Great job, Lira.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/h...cross-donations tbills is right. Americans donated the most (to the Red Cross, at least) because it happened in the US. It hit close to home, so to speak. Is there some sort of objection to this?

I would imagine it had less to do with where it hit and more to do with the US having a population nearly 40 times larger than the runner-up country.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi The American Red Cross is the designated US affiliate of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. I would think the CNN article is referring to ICRC as a whole, and not just one local chapter.

yes, I was unsure of what the article was referring to and was hoping for clarification from the OP.

also, Lira, why did you post a video of gas prices?

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