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Posted by TheInvisibleKid on Apr-26-2011 23:52:

Why I Listen to Dubstep

I didn't want for it to come to this. I've been listening to dance music for the last eight years---trance for the first three and house for the last five. While I'm sure this isn't quite as long as some of you TA vets, by God I am absolutely TIRED of hearing the same beat over and over every time I go out. I realize that house music is an inherently repetitive genre, and about every two weeks another person gets on here and talks about how it's become stale, so I guess it's just my turn.

The last handful of times I've gone out to see DJs here in New York, I've left within the first hour or so when I used to stay and dance until 4 in the morning. I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded. Nowadays, three songs into a DJ's set, I know exactly what it'll sound like for the next four hours.

I'm not even crazy about dubstep. I hate about 98% of it, but at least for the time being it's something different. Blah.


Posted by enydo on Apr-26-2011 23:53:

ok


Posted by shaminii on Apr-27-2011 00:04:


Posted by nefardec on Apr-27-2011 00:10:

Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by TheInvisibleKid
I didn't want for it to come to this. I've been listening to dance music for the last eight years---trance for the first three and house for the last five. While I'm sure this isn't quite as long as some of you TA vets, by God I am absolutely TIRED of hearing the same beat over and over every time I go out. I realize that house music is an inherently repetitive genre, and about every two weeks another person gets on here and talks about how it's become stale, so I guess it's just my turn.

The last handful of times I've gone out to see DJs here in New York, I've left within the first hour or so when I used to stay and dance until 4 in the morning. I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded. Nowadays, three songs into a DJ's set, I know exactly what it'll sound like for the next four hours.

I'm not even crazy about dubstep. I hate about 98% of it, but at least for the time being it's something different. Blah.



seriously? haven't you learned anything from your prior experiences? i give your wah wah wah phase about six months.

if anything dubstep is the new gateway drug for kids.

big ol' bad ol' dick swingin cheez curlin' bass muzak

there is so much fucking music out there, why limit yourself to one yucky subgenre of electronic music? you live in nyc god damnit!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-27-2011 00:19:

I'd be fucking jaded if I spent five years dancing to house.


Posted by Lews on Apr-27-2011 00:22:

Fantastic post, would read again.


Posted by TheInvisibleKid on Apr-27-2011 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'd be fucking jaded if I spent five years dancing to house.


lol you got a point there


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-27-2011 00:26:

Re: Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec


big ol' bad ol' dick swingin


Don't you want to enjoy it while you still can?


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-27-2011 00:44:

why constrain yourself to one genre in the first place?


Posted by Vector A on Apr-27-2011 00:47:

Genres aren't political parties. You can listen to dubstep without "opposing" or "rejecting" house. You can listen to house or techno without rejecting trance. And hey, you can even listen to classical without rejecting pop, or rock without rejecting dance music.

Though to listen to some people, you wouldn't know it. The battle lines are drawn, guys, now choose a side!


Posted by Dreyth on Apr-27-2011 01:09:

For you people who complain about complainers, I'd say it's my taste that limits me to a handful of genres; not my prejudice. I'm pretty much 75% trance with 15% getting muddy with prog this and prog that, 9% stuff like Way Out West and slow "edm" songs (like Tri-State), but there's only 1% rock on my ipod. Bush - Warm Machine would be an example. It's not purposely, though I do influence it indirectly -- I know that I mostly only like trance/prog so that's all I search for.

In the end, you could always search for classics that you've never heard before. A month ago I heard Dirty Sticky Floors (Junkie XL Remix) for the first time and that peaked my interest for a while.


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-27-2011 01:14:

quote:
I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded.

Son, you have not yet begun to know what being jaded is.


Posted by nefardec on Apr-27-2011 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Dreyth
For you people who complain about complainers, I'd say it's my taste that limits me to a handful of genres; not my prejudice.



yeah, i used to think that, before i had even tried to find new music.


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Apr-27-2011 03:52:

Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by TheInvisibleKid
I didn't want for it to come to this. I've been listening to dance music for the last eight years---trance for the first three and house for the last five. While I'm sure this isn't quite as long as some of you TA vets, by God I am absolutely TIRED of hearing the same beat over and over every time I go out. I realize that house music is an inherently repetitive genre, and about every two weeks another person gets on here and talks about how it's become stale, so I guess it's just my turn.

The last handful of times I've gone out to see DJs here in New York, I've left within the first hour or so when I used to stay and dance until 4 in the morning. I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded. Nowadays, three songs into a DJ's set, I know exactly what it'll sound like for the next four hours.

I'm not even crazy about dubstep. I hate about 98% of it, but at least for the time being it's something different. Blah.


Why I listen to Electro:

I didn't want for it to come to this. I've been listening to dance music for the last eight years---trance for the first three and house for the last five. While I'm sure this isn't quite as long as some of you TA vets, by God I am absolutely TIRED of hearing the same beat over and over every time I go out. I realize that house music is an inherently repetitive genre, and about every two weeks another person gets on here and talks about how it's become stale, so I guess it's just my turn.

The last handful of times I've gone out to see DJs here in New York, I've left within the first hour or so when I used to stay and dance until 4 in the morning. I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded. Nowadays, three songs into a DJ's set, I know exactly what it'll sound like for the next four hours.

I'm not even crazy about Electro. I hate about 98% of it, but at least for the time being it's something different. Blah.


Posted by Syntonic on Apr-27-2011 07:21:

Re: Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
Why I listen to Electro:

I didn't want for it to come to this. I've been listening to dance music for the last eight years---trance for the first three and house for the last five. While I'm sure this isn't quite as long as some of you TA vets, by God I am absolutely TIRED of hearing the same beat over and over every time I go out. I realize that house music is an inherently repetitive genre, and about every two weeks another person gets on here and talks about how it's become stale, so I guess it's just my turn.

The last handful of times I've gone out to see DJs here in New York, I've left within the first hour or so when I used to stay and dance until 4 in the morning. I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded. Nowadays, three songs into a DJ's set, I know exactly what it'll sound like for the next four hours.

I'm not even crazy about Electro. I hate about 98% of it, but at least for the time being it's something different. Blah.



It looks like someone needs to start digging. I was in the same predicament you are in but my problem was about the nostalgia and memories with those particular tracks;and being an acid house/trance enthusiast it was one big sound and no sub-genres and the productions were edgier. But there is good stuff popping up here and there, especially stuff people post here. IMHO techno seems to be the new trance being that it seems to have that hypnotic (trancey) edge with the new slicker production techniques today.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-27-2011 09:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Dreyth
For you people who complain about complainers, I'd say it's my taste that limits me to a handful of genres; not my prejudice. I'm pretty much 75% trance with 15% getting muddy with prog this and prog that, 9% stuff like Way Out West and slow "edm" songs (like Tri-State), but there's only 1% rock on my ipod. Bush - Warm Machine would be an example. It's not purposely, though I do influence it indirectly -- I know that I mostly only like trance/prog so that's all I search for.


So you've been listening to dance music for about... two years, then.


Posted by Domesticated on Apr-27-2011 11:03:

Re: Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
there is so much fucking music out there, why limit yourself to one yucky subgenre of electronic music?


Sounds like you should take your own advice, rather than labelling a whole genre "yucky".


Posted by stev� on Apr-27-2011 14:03:

i know how you feel. i got sucked into dubstep a few years ago for the same reason. but eventually got tired of it because the tracks got increasingly bland and uninspired and the sets got more and more BORING.

its sort of like this: someone makes an interesting drawing that's different from anything anyone else has done before. but then it gets copied with a copy machine, and then that copy gets copied, and each copy gets more muddy and bland and unrecognizable as a piece of art.

just imagine 25 years of that process for house music.

the same thing happened to dubstep, except a lot quicker because of 16 year olds on the internet.

the good news is once in a while someone will make a new drawing from scratch that is similar to the very first original, but with a slight twist or new spin to it. this would be a new subgenre like electro house or tech house for example. but then that starts a whole new copy process.

sometimes, a good dj will come along with the energy and creativity fueled by quality drugs to take a bunch of shitty xerox copies and make a collage or something out of it, cut it up into paper people, make airplanes, confetti etc. take a bunch of shit that is claimed to be art and actually make something entertaining out of it.

it doesnt matter to me if its trance or dubstep or house or whatever, what matters most is if the dj can make something good out of it.

theres just too many djs that spin monotonous sets either because they try too hard to be underground or because they are mimicking the big name dj who spins monotonous sets.


Posted by -FSP- on Apr-27-2011 17:30:

I have a good idea. How about promoters and DJs grow some cojones and not stick to a themed set and play music of different styles and bpms?


Posted by frostdude1 on Apr-27-2011 17:34:

Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by TheInvisibleKid
I didn't want for it to come to this. I've been listening to dance music for the last eight years---trance for the first three and house for the last five. While I'm sure this isn't quite as long as some of you TA vets, by God I am absolutely TIRED of hearing the same beat over and over every time I go out. I realize that house music is an inherently repetitive genre, and about every two weeks another person gets on here and talks about how it's become stale, so I guess it's just my turn.

The last handful of times I've gone out to see DJs here in New York, I've left within the first hour or so when I used to stay and dance until 4 in the morning. I recently turned 25. Maybe part of getting older is becoming jaded. Nowadays, three songs into a DJ's set, I know exactly what it'll sound like for the next four hours.

I'm not even crazy about dubstep. I hate about 98% of it, but at least for the time being it's something different. Blah.


Your problem seems to be that you stick with one genre at a time and eventually you get sick of it. This means that the same thing will happen with you and Dubstep. You should listen to a variety of EDM to keep yourself fresh


Posted by wotyzoid on Apr-27-2011 17:47:

Gimme that HOUSE mu-siccc, all night long
With that HOUSE mu-sicc, you can't goo wroooonng


Posted by TheInvisibleKid on Apr-27-2011 19:16:

Re: Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by frostdude1
Your problem seems to be that you stick with one genre at a time and eventually you get sick of it. This means that the same thing will happen with you and Dubstep. You should listen to a variety of EDM to keep yourself fresh


Obviously, restricting yourself to one genre is silly. I have my collection of weird electronica like Bibio, Siriusmo, and Toro Y Moi, and even a collection of hard rock like Sick of It All, Refused, and Sparta.

My main issue is the lack of musical variety when I see house DJs. Again, while I realize house music is inherently redundant, believe or not it IS possible to play tracks that sound different from each other! Of all the DJs I've seen, the only ones who really mix it up are Louie Vega, Marques Wyatt, Theo Parrish, Mark Farina, James Zabiela, and a couple others. Anyone who's been to Cielo on any other night except a Monday or Wednesday knows that this is the beat from 10pm-4am:


Posted by nefardec on Apr-27-2011 19:35:

Re: Re: Re: Why I Listen to Dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by TheInvisibleKid
My main issue is the lack of musical variety when I see house DJs. Again, while I realize house music is inherently redundant, believe or not it IS possible to play tracks that sound different from each other! Of all the DJs I've seen, the only ones who really mix it up are Louie Vega, Marques Wyatt, Theo Parrish, Mark Farina, James Zabiela, and a couple others. Anyone who's been to Cielo on any other night except a Monday or Wednesday knows that this is the beat from 10pm-4am:


I'm going to say it again - you live in NYC. there is so much additional stuff going on it's incomprehensible that you stick to one thing. Cielo is a formula club. I don't even go to deep space anymore because FK plays too much dubstep and kiddie music and has ditched the classics possibly in hopes of seeking his professional fountain of youth. and god i hate the people that waddle in their on mondays these days - mainly i-bankers, escorts, and european tourists, and altogether too many people too full of themselves too concerned with sex who drink too much.


Posted by TheInvisibleKid on Apr-27-2011 20:31:

I need to hit up some Jacques Renault parties in BK lol


Posted by nefardec on Apr-27-2011 23:04:

well there are just other kind of good parties all around. i just don't like to stick to one scene. one wednesday night i'll be at rich medina's props party for funk/soul/disco/hip hop, another night i'll be dancing to david bowie at a faggy glam rock party, maybe the same night a morrissey party, maybe a jazz festival at nublu, or perhaps i'll check out a dub/roots party or go to see a classical indian concert, or i'll dance with the leftovers of the paradise garage at the occasional body + soul or 718 sessions part, or maybe even pop into a warehouse techno party. i'm a variety whore i guess. i used to be dedicated to certain house and techno regular events but those kind of things began to turn me off in a big way after i noticed the prices creeping way way up, the parties packed with tourists and trainspotters, attitudes abound, and i'd realize in the entire night i maybe enjoyed dancing to like 2 tracks - most of the rest of the time i'd be standing around watching people do the k sway and counting thick framed glasses.

these days if i go out to those kind of parties it's got to be for those selectors who make it special, who have the deep crates: theo parrish, mr scruff, dj harvey, greg wilson, ron trent, etc. they also tend to bring out the real dancers and the real heads.

i guess what i look for more than a type of music is a really fucking good atmosphere, a party that feels unique, special, and authentic. i don't like when they feel like 'shows' too much, and everyone just kind of angles towards the dj booth and waits for the dj to play a song from their RA mix.

i can say that i will definitely be attending the mr sunday parties on the regular this year just because there's no better way to spend summer sundays then chowing on fair food on a grassy lot next to a superfund site with decent music to boot (and sometimes spectacular music)


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