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Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-12-2011 01:15:

Uad V6

drum rolll ..........


still not 64 bit
what a joke


Posted by meriter on Oct-12-2011 02:16:

Umad V6


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-12-2011 02:17:

I have two quads i think i will be selling. Enough is enough.


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-12-2011 18:49:

I'm amazed UAD is still in business. In fact I was amazed 5 years ago -their customers must be retrophiles or something.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-12-2011 19:37:

ya i don't really get it. Mine were a gift but Waves has them beat on every plugin cheaper and native. I think i just use them because i have them. lol. But waves is still 32 bit too. At least they don't make a huge update without adding some serious changes and still not be 64 bit when people are asking what the fuck is taking so long.

They did have this promotion where you could give them your powercore serial and get a bunch of free plugins so that was cool but then I don't really use them so sigh. Can't really sell them either for a good return.

But still, V6 and not really anything new except that is "works" with protools without a wrapper. Great way to announce your new product by saying, hey are shit isn't broken now.

The sad part is that I think they are actually doing better. I had the UAD-1 in 2001 when it first came out before DAWS did the auto latency for you. Not much has changed. Still underpowered, still over priced and really not that much to speak of in terms of sound compared to any other company.At least 10 years ago, you could actually say they sound great. They sound average.

Of course everyone that owns them pretty much exemplifies the Matthew effect they talk about in psychology. People have convinced themselves it much be awesome because you have to buy it and once you buy it, you have to buy another one because they are so underpowered that by the end, you own 3 cards and well you aren't really going to be honest about how they perform either to yourself or others.


Posted by kevin shawn on Oct-12-2011 20:56:

A friend of mine was talking these cards up like they were really good? I take it he doesn't know what he was on about then?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-12-2011 21:00:

they are average. What ever advantage they had a few years ago, everyone has caught up. Now they are just a collection of good plugins crippled by hardware.


Posted by Raphie on Oct-13-2011 07:03:

A UAD quad has less processing power than your iPhone, you decide how good they can be


Posted by Storyteller on Oct-13-2011 07:18:

I love how these UAD rants sometimes pop up. As I believe Raphie used to say, it's no more than a shitty glorified dongle.


Posted by Raphie on Oct-13-2011 09:33:

Yes, but a L4C is saying, with the current WAVES pricing and all the other pricedrops and new heroes in the digital candy store there are much better cheaper and more flexible alternatives than UAD


Posted by tehlord on Oct-13-2011 09:58:

I once had a UAD card and Powercore Firewire, and i'm pretty glad to be rid of them tbh. There really is no need these days, and for UAD to be 32 bit only really is laughable.


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-13-2011 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I once had a UAD card and Powercore Firewire, and i'm pretty glad to be rid of them tbh. There really is no need these days, and for UAD to be 32 bit only really is laughable.



I've never heard these things in use but always drooled over thier adverts. It's very interesting to read comments like these - perhaps I can fell whole again afterall.

Also - slightly off topic, but Future Music rave about things like the Abbey Road plugins, for I've just had this hunch that it would be �250 pretty much down the pipe. But someone must be buying all this stuff thinking it will give them an edge?


Posted by tehlord on Oct-13-2011 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I've never heard these things in use but always drooled over thier adverts. It's very interesting to read comments like these - perhaps I can fell whole again afterall.

Also - slightly off topic, but Future Music rave about things like the Abbey Road plugins, for I've just had this hunch that it would be �250 pretty much down the pipe. But someone must be buying all this stuff thinking it will give them an edge?


Future Music talk a load of bollocks at the best of times.

I remember them reviewing Cytomic 'The Glue' at one point and it was in one of their mini reviews. It scored ok, but for it's �99/$99 price (or whatever it is) it should have been front page news. If it was a Waves or UAD plug it would have been a 10/10 even though it would have been 2-3 times the cost, but I guess they advertise more right?


Posted by Storyteller on Oct-13-2011 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I once had a UAD card and Powercore Firewire, and i'm pretty glad to be rid of them tbh. There really is no need these days, and for UAD to be 32 bit only really is laughable.


I used to own a focusrite liquidmix myself and it was horror. It functioned well, hardly any technical issues other than a windows 7 related drivers issue. The unit was rock solid and performed well.

When using it though, it slowed the loading process of music projects. Loading/initializing plugin instances on the unit just took too long and frustrated me. The fact that it didn't stand out (sonically) amongst the software I already own made my decision to sell in final. Never even thought of the thing until now so I can't say I miss it. And yes, if a recall correctly it was rated quite well and advertised plenty.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-14-2011 17:41:

another gripe which i don't quite get is why they haven't made a convolution reverb seing as such reverbs already introduce latency so that caveat isn't an issue and that is the one thing if I mix i have to offload to another mac. I suppose the answer is that there is no analogue oldschool super cool equivalent and secondly , the cards do not have enough power.


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-14-2011 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
another gripe which i don't quite get is why they haven't made a convolution reverb seing as such reverbs already introduce latency so that caveat isn't an issue and that is the one thing if I mix i have to offload to another mac. I suppose the answer is that there is no analogue oldschool super cool equivalent and secondly , the cards do not have enough power.


Cut your losses already, man. There may still be someone out there foolish enough to give you money for them.

Digidesign say the writing on the wall, UAD should as well.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-14-2011 19:32:

haven't spent a dime yet. And selling stresses me out.


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-14-2011 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
haven't spent a dime yet. And selling stresses me out.


You'd make a terrible dealer. I bet you'd end up banging all your own gear and not sell a gram.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-14-2011 22:36:

naw see the problem is I just end up stockpiling shit. I would have kilos of coke in my closet and any time a friend comes over , i'd be like, coke with your champagne ? Maybe a some espresso and a morphine chaser.


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-14-2011 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
naw see the problem is I just end up stockpiling shit. I would have kilos of coke in my closet and any time a friend comes over , i'd be like, coke with your champagne ? Maybe a some espresso and a morphine chaser.


I am confuse When is Champgane ever served without a little Rage powder?

Please explain.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Oct-14-2011 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Umad V6


Hahaha very clever


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Oct-14-2011 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
I am confuse When is Champgane ever served without a little Rage powder?

Please explain.


some codeine with your glenlivet. For desert, we are serving a seasonal lemon tart a la mode with a sprinkle of ketamine ,vanilla with a dash of purified crystal.

Maybe make some christmas stockings with a few grams. Champagne and coke ? its a jersey thing.


Posted by Beatflux on Oct-15-2011 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
haven't spent a dime yet. And selling stresses me out.


Have a contest!


Posted by alanzo on Oct-18-2011 01:34:

I'll have to add that I sold my UAD-2 Quad back when it was at 5.7 with every plugin up until the EP-34 Tape Echo Plug-In. It was a full ard with every plugin to date. Sold it for around $3400 but I paid closer to $1700.

Amazing plugins, best in the business, no doubt. But $$$. My biggest gripe was that they would come out with "THE MOST AMAZING DIGITAL EMULATION OF ANALOG EVAR!!!!".. and then a few months later... "THE BIGGEST THING SINCE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT USING DIGITAL PLUGINS, YET AGAIN"... etc.

Not to say that each plugin isn't amazing, but I'd rather they stuck to a set of a few dozen plugins and continually worked on them, perfecting every last bit rather than constantly trying to one-up their last project. Makes keeping up with them really annoying and pricey.


Posted by meriter on Oct-18-2011 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo


Amazing plugins, best in the business, no doubt. But $$$. My biggest gripe was that they would come out with "THE MOST AMAZING DIGITAL EMULATION OF ANALOG EVAR!!!!".. and then a few months later... "THE BIGGEST THING SINCE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT USING DIGITAL PLUGINS, YET AGAIN"... etc.

Not to say that each plugin isn't amazing, but I'd rather they stuck to a set of a few dozen plugins and continually worked on them, perfecting every last bit rather than constantly trying to one-up their last project. Makes keeping up with them really annoying and pricey.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence


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