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Denon Mixer and CD Players

I'd like to start DJ'ing some time in the next couple of years once I get better at producing my own tracks. I'd like to start it out just as hobby and see where that takes me. I was looking at different mixers and CD players, and I came across the Denon DJ DN-S700 Compact Tabletop CD/MP3 Disc Player and the Denon DJ DN-X120 Two Channel DJ Mixer. I know Pioneer is the DJ standard, but I don't feel like spending so much money on something that may turn out to be only a hobby for me...does anybody have any advice regarding Denon products or just any start-up DJ equipment in general? Any advice would be appreciated. I know this is probably a topic that is beat to death on here.

save your money and get something like an s2.
Prices gonna dump in march.

I saw on their website that the S2 is for $449 from the beginning of February until the end of March...but is an all-in-one controller the best way to go when just starting out? From what I've researched, buying the mixer and decks separately is better. I could be wrong, my knowledge on this is very limited. Thanks for the feedback.

no get decks. alfi's an idiot

Hmm...that's what I was thinking...do you think the Denon decks and mixer I mentioned are a good choice? I don't have the funds for anything Pioneer, so I was thinking about those.

you should really try to get a pair of second hand CDJ 400's

or get a pair of technics 1200's

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd or get a pair of technics 1200's

I don't think getting 1200s these days is too smart. Ever since they've cancelled production the prices have exploded almost everywhere. And there's other good quality decks for much cheaper, they just lack the cult status.

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Originally posted by Adam420 no get decks. alfi's an idiot

Fuck you.

The S2 will be really easy to sell for nearly what you bought it for if you find out you dj'ing isn't for you.
That piece of shit Denon equipment you've chosen you won't find anyone stupid enough to buy.

And there is no point in buying anything other than technics decks, and those are gonna set you back a bit, plus a quality mixer, and a shitload of old records, just to find out that you need to get Traktor Scratch because it is boring as shit playing old records plus maybe a midi controller for controlling loops and fx.

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Originally posted by Woony I don't think getting 1200s these days is too smart. Ever since they've cancelled production the prices have exploded almost everywhere. And there's other good quality decks for much cheaper, they just lack the cult status.

Nah man, getting anything but the 1200s is stupid. The 1200's have cult status because they are built to last and can take ALOT of punishment, and they are easy to get fixed, and the motor is really nice to play on as well. Sure the ttx' have insane torque, but it looks like a spaceship and it feels like plastic, and that's top of the line turntables, going down in price it only gets worse.
I played on Omnitronic dd-2250's for many years before getting 1200's and the learning curve on shitty equipment is far steeper than on club standard equipment.

You'll end up wanting technics, so there's no point in buying subpar equipment, especially when you don't even know if you like mixing.

Man, you guys are giving some really shitty advice around here.

Well...the 1200's you guys are suggesting are out of my price range, considering I'd have to buy a mixer as well. I appreciate the suggestions though. I don't really want to mix with vinyl either...I would have to obtain records opposed to burning CDs. I don't know...I guess I have to step back and just give it some more thought. I want decent equipment but I don't want to spend over $1000 starting out. I also want equipment that is good for a beginner. Any other suggestions would be appreciated...

S4

Thinking about the S2 like dj_alfi suggested to begin with...I would like to have some CDJ's but it's just too expensive for me right now. I don't know anything about DJ'ing and I need some place to start. Having it all in one for under $500 seems like the right choice. But I'm going to give it some more thought though obviously. Does anyone have the S2 and have anything to say about it?

Good luck mate

Thank you! Still having second thoughts, but I'm going to give it some more time. I don't want to wait too long to decide, because the S2 price will go back up probably. Just don't want to do anything rash.

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Originally posted by RobertAllen Thank you! Still having second thoughts, but I'm going to give it some more time. I don't want to wait too long to decide, because the S2 price will go back up probably. Just don't want to do anything rash.

Go with the S2. A friend of mine was in the same boat. Didn't know what to buy and I pointed him to the S4. He's loving it. You won't be dissappointed. Great place to begin without having to spend a bunch of money.


For your other question, I have the S4 and it's a great controller. Only negative I have is the small jog wheels. The cool feature on the S4 is, it has two line level inputs on it for cdj's, tt's. I don't know if the S2 has it or not.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi save your money and get something like an s2. Prices gonna dump in march.

Is that true?

Is it realistic to scratch with those jog wheels?

Can you use an external interface instead of the one that's built-in?

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Originally posted by RobertAllen Thinking about the S2 like dj_alfi suggested to begin with...I would like to have some CDJ's but it's just too expensive for me right now. I don't know anything about DJ'ing and I need some place to start. Having it all in one for under $500 seems like the right choice. But I'm going to give it some more thought though obviously. Does anyone have the S2 and have anything to say about it?

I have an S2.

While yes, as you said earlier in the thread, having a one-in-all system would be a big no-no back in the day, but now that it's all midi knobs with a soundcard, that's pretty much a worry of the past. You can even re-map your controller if you want to improve your workflow etc, and you could always get one of the faderfox controllers, or any generic midi controller really, if you feel like you need more buttons and knobs. And while having only 2 channels would be a tiny minus, layering 3 or more tracks is really not something one should be doing until at least a couple of years into the mixing.

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Originally posted by meriter Is that true? Is it realistic to scratch with those jog wheels? Can you use an external interface instead of the one that's built-in?

Is it realistic to scratch with a Denon DJ DN-S700?

meh I'll have to go to guitar center and try it out

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Originally posted by meriter meh I'll have to go to guitar center and try it out

It hit me when I posted that, that "maybe he wasn't being a sarcastic bitch?", but I opted to see your reply first. my bad...

"Is that true?"

apparently the price is $449 until march 31.


"Is it realistic to scratch with those jog wheels?"

you'd might have to reposition yourself if you have long arms etc, because the jog wheels are kinda small (compared to vinyl), but i feel the scratching feels more natural than on a CDJ-1000 etc. Might be just the vinyl-ish plate thats on top of it.

"Can you use an external interface instead of the one that's built-in?"

I think so, but don't take that as cannon. I had no problem playing through my pc speakers with the S2 hooked up, unless I'm remembering wrong.

I wouldn't see why though? It seems to do the job pretty well, if you aren't too ambitious regarding buffer settings. I have noticed some pops when setting it too low, but it was not often and it mostly just reminded me of crackling from vinyl.

yeah.. I'd rather use this motu firewire interface to drive the audio, also need to run a mic w/ Logic in the background. Nothing against the NI interfaces

You can run a mic straight into the s2 though if MC'ing is your thing.

i have used that cd player once and i don't know if it was excesively battered but the plastic play/cue buttons suck badly, first of all i am one of those that before pressind play count the bars pressing cue and it's hard to do this with this buttons + sometimes they stuck.

S2 is legit, great piece of gear for the cost ($434 after tax)

Only gripe is the jog-wheel response seems kinda slow to take off, like they intentionally tried to emulate the slow take-off of vinyl

Don't try to emulate the feel of vinyl with a little stupid jog-wheel. Just give it good action and a quick response time like CD decks. Getting used to it still I guess

also Traktor's service center activation made me feel unclean

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