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Great recent Armin interview

I mean we all think that the music he plays and supports these days sucks balls, but putting my personal musical opinion aside, I think this one of the best interviews with a dance music artist I've seen. He's very eloquent and on point without going too vague like artists tend to do. It get's interesting at about 3 minutes.

What struck me is his definition of DJing "Any sound that has ever been recorded can be used. I think that's an incredible thing. Any sound that has ever been captured you can use to create something on the dancefloor"
I've never really thought about it that way. I think that's a very inspiring definition.

Armin produced really good music back in the days, but it feels as if he got sharked up in an industry where he's the head, yet still needs to comply with where it leads him. It isn't the first time he's said that he prefers ambient music over trance.

The fact that he used aliases to produce a "more to the roots" type of trance for the past years, shows that "Armin van Buuren" is more of a brand than a DJ.

All in all, it's a very good, honest interview. Haven't really followed trance music �lla Armada for a few years now, so basically I'm clueless about his playlists, but from my knowledge, he never played older tracks he's made, probably because of the new generation which don't know them.

I think when you're a superstar DJ it's very easy to kind of get lost in that. This doesn't just apply to Armin but also a whole bunch of other people, but when you've got legions of fans that treat you like you're jesus reborn every week, you can be the most humble and grounded person in the world but after years and years of that it just kind of begins to run itself, if you know what I mean. They don't want to disappoint all the nice people that come out and support them every week and I think that's what keeps them going.

Honestly, Armada isnt what it used to be, they are doing great things at the moment, incorporating different styles of music.

For example:

Seems really authentic and down to earth, pretty much agree with everything he's saying. And I'm glad he made a working comparison between bands and DJ's although most bands aren't up there to please the general audience, don't forget that. You try to appease everyone and it all turns to garbage

I'm not a DJ and I could have told you the same thing he said in this interview.

I'm glad Armin's ass is comfy enough to be interviewed on a dead animal.

Armin has always seemed alright. Too bad the scene and music is shit.


I need to check out what trance is all about these days, haven't heard a track in more than a year..

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Originally posted by OrangestO I'm not a DJ and I could have told you the same thing he said in this interview. I'm glad Armin's ass is comfy enough to be interviewed on a dead animal.

I agree.

Not sure if he was keeping it low brow for the purpose of the interviews audience or it is just the extent of his insight but you would think someone that has been djing the amount of time he has would have something more interesting to say regarding the role of a dj and what a dj can do to inspire an emotional response.

Regarding using noise in music, Russolo in 1913 wrote a treatise on the concept. And that is what i find fascinating with the types that say they have a passion for music. That passion seems to almost always be really fucking narrow. So many djs that are passionate about music could not tell you who Nile Rodgers, Marvin Hamlisch are or anything about music other than their limited micro niche. That is a passion for a scene. Not music.

You need to read the crowd, L4C: the crowd aren't reacting well to this "Everyone who makes dance music is a moron" track.

I don't follow. Well i am getting two interpretations. One is funny, one is making me sad.

I wasn't attacking dance music. Just a little disappointed that someone you would think would have some interesting things to say says pretty much stuff everyone knows already. And i was sort of ridiculing I just have a passion for music trope. I know he has a passion for something, i don't think it is music.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney And that is what i find fascinating with the types that say they have a passion for music. That passion seems to almost always be really fucking narrow. So many djs that are passionate about music could not tell you who Nile Rodgers, Marvin Hamlisch are or anything about music other than their limited micro niche. That is a passion for a scene. Not music.

Find me a pro DJ that mainly listens to the stuff he plays out in his free time. You're going to have a hard time finding one. Most DJs (especially the older ones) have a very eclectic taste and older DJs are complaining all the time that everything is so specialized nowadays. The truth is that unless you are lucky enough to play in a afterhours type setting, people are most likely going to chop your head off if you play too far outside of the microgenre they came for.

i think we just have a different understanding of the word passion. I'm sure he likes music, i don't really notice anything about what he does a sign that he clearly has a passion for music. ANyways, i don't really see the point in fighting over hear say. I based my view off the interview. He doesn't really seem that passionate at all. Maybe he is just camera shy or something. I do know that he has been doing the same thing for 10 years now and that seems like a nightmare for someone that is so passionate about music. I'm sure he has alot of money, he doesn't need to dj. I would say perhaps he is passionate for performing ? Or attention.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney I wasn't attacking dance music. Just a little disappointed that someone you would think would have some interesting things to say says pretty much stuff everyone knows already. And i was sort of ridiculing I just have a passion for music trope. I know he has a passion for something, i don't think it is music.

You would be amazed by how few people who listen to Armin's music actually know these things. Also, I don't get why you're bringing up Russolo, as if finding Armin's comments interesting means you must be ignorant to things like musique concrete. And in fairness to Armin, you have no real idea what music he listens to outside his day job, especially as he makes it very clear in the interview what he plays on stage is far from the limits of his interests.

I'm just saying that most DJs have a more eclectic taste than you give them credit for.

As for passion, I don't know, it's different for everyone. The world doesn't revolve around your exact standard.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You would be amazed by how few people who listen to Armin's music actually know these things. Also, I don't get why you're bringing up Russolo, as if finding Armin's comments interesting means you must be ignorant to things like musique concrete. And in fairness to Armin, you have no real idea what music he listens to outside his day job, especially as he makes it very clear in the interview what he plays on stage is far from the limits of his interests.

true.

But I do find a certain irony regarding someone that has been doing the same thing for 10 years when he is already financially well off. That to me doesn't really send me the passion vibe. Passion for attention or performing, not really music.

Most artists, you see them do different things. Actors start doing broadway. Anything for something new and exciting. Armin just seem really content in that small world he has and that to me is not really what i consider passion well not for music.

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Originally posted by Woony I'm just saying that most DJs have a more eclectic taste than you give them credit for. As for passion, I don't know, it's different for everyone. The world doesn't revolve around your exact standard.

I dont' really think i mentioned anything about djs tastes. I just think when you say you are passionate about music and then you put that up against the fact that he has been doing the same thing musically for the last 10 years, it is sort of a contradiction. I always associated passion with that sort of compulsion one has in one area where you have to know everything because you find it exciting. He seems pretty complacent. ANd i supposer i would hold someone how is doing music as a career to a higher level when they use the word passion,

I suppose if i could condense why it irks me ,

it would be like someone that drinks really bad win saying they have a passion for wine. I mean i don't really know their motivations but to me, it seems like they have a passion for drinking, not wine.

But that was really a small part of my post. I just found the interview boring. There are so many things one could say about djing that the layman would understand. Just psychological things that a dj has to consider. That is interesting. More than bpms.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney true. But I do find a certain irony regarding someone that has been doing the same thing for 10 years when he is already financially well off.

Eh, isn't that also a sign for passion? If someone is dedicated enough to do the same thing for a long peroid off time, I'd consider them passionate.

And yeah regarding his shows, it's probably more about the act of performing than the music itself for him. But that doesn't mean that he still can't be passionat about music.

i am not psychic. I do think he is using the word in its germanic form.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney But I do find a certain irony regarding someone that has been doing the same thing for 10 years when he is already financially well off. That to me doesn't really send me the passion vibe. Passion for attention or performing, not really music.

Yeah, I get your point. If he loves ambient music so much, why hasn't he ever started an ambient side project? Or perhaps he has in a covert Richard Bachman fashion.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yeah, I get your point. If he loves ambient music so much, why hasn't he ever started an ambient side project? Or perhaps he has in a covert Richard Bachman fashion.

I'm wondering the same with most commercial DJs. I mean with someone that has been around for 15+ years there's no way they are very passionate about the music they play or produce at this point.

i had a discussion with other self and it seems i disagree with myself. Talking about what is passion and what isn't is like arguing about whether female orgasms exist. Too subjective. I will just say that it is disappointing when someone you think should be a well of information doesn't want to seem to really give you stuff that makes you more insightful yourself. And that is why i didn't really care for it. I like to learn.

I was just being a little too pedantic with the word music. Maybe he is passionate about trance and djing. And that is ok. It is too bad someone that is so passionate would not want to share more to the community. Like post information about his tracks, how they are made ... It seems in other industries, those that have made it and don't need money, are more liberal about what they say because they don't care and don't have to hide their secrets or what they think is secret.

Everyone attack looney he sucks it.

i prefer the term gobble but eh,

Good interview but don't like his music nowadays anymore
Same for me with Markus Schulz....

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