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Posted by Flyboy217 on Oct-28-2012 21:49:

Should I buy a WRX?

I suppose this question belongs on a car forum, but I can't find any decent ones, and besides that I can't be arsed to create an account, so here it is.

I currently have an '04 Maxima. Wonderful car. I'm moving back to Seattle, where maneuverability and parkability are somewhat important, and where driving into the gravelly mountainous roads is hella important. Other important considerations are a good sound system and teh quickness.

I'm looking at the 2012 WRX because it seems to meet all of those. Well, except the audio part. Any other contenders I should be considering? I kind of don't want to spend $2k on a system that adds nothing to the resale.

I was going to say looks don't matter, but then I heard someone suggest a RAV4 and realized I don't wanna look like a real adult.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and driving on slick roads is... a tiny bit common.


Posted by srussell0018 on Oct-28-2012 21:52:

A WRX is a great car. Especially if you're going to be living in an area with notoriously bad weather, the symmetrical AWD is very nice. I read an article about WRX's and STI's having some of the highest insurance rates for commonly owned cars in the US though. I've had a Subaru for the past 3 years and I love it.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2012 21:54:

What about Mitsubishi Lancer?


Posted by Lews on Oct-28-2012 22:21:

As a Seattleite... go for the WRX.


Posted by Flyboy217 on Oct-28-2012 22:26:

Crap, just realized they don't come in automatic. I can drive a stick, but the girlfriend can't, and besides I'd rather have automatic (or paddle shifters).

The Lancer would have to be Evo, and that's $$$. What else is comparable?


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2012 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
What else is comparable?


You might try looking at the Dodge Dart. Its top model has an engine similar to (if not the same as) the Fiat Abarth and prices at $22,000. Internet rumors are that there's a model coming out for 2013, comparable to Mitsubishi's Evo (300hp DOHC & AWD - not sure on the turbo-charger) but I don't know how much that will cost.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-28-2012 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
You might try looking at the Dodge Dart. Its top model has an engine similar to (if not the same as) the Fiat Abarth and prices at $22,000. Internet rumors are that there's a model coming out for 2013, comparable to Mitsubishi's Evo (300hp DOHC & AWD - not sure on the turbo-charger) but I don't know how much that will cost.


This reminds me:


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2012 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Louis CK


I remember that. I'm kind of surprised Dodge just didn't go with another name instead of continuing that line. It's almost like Ford reinventing the Pinto - little wonder they went with Focus, instead.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-28-2012 23:20:

They should revive the Pinto, but rename it to the Ford Incombustible.

Would be like when Toyota started advertising after their massive brake recall debacle. Toyota: "Moving Forward". How literal; it was both a 'yeah, moving along' kind of intimation, as well as a commentary on how their cars could only move forward, and maybe not stop if you wanted them to.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2012 23:27:

Naturally, it would have to be a hybrid. No explosions from sudden jolts (Ford actually has an inertia switch that turns off the fuel pump, in case of impact). Instead an insecure wiring harness causes fatal electrocutions of accident victims who make the mistake of touching the frame on their way out of the vehicle.


Posted by rubez on Oct-28-2012 23:28:

always laugh at americans who can't drive "a stick". WTF in UK 99% of cars are manual.

anyway i own a wrx sti spec c... awesome car. 370bhp.

in UK automatics are for disabled people, americans are plain lazy

gears are half the fun of driving, they put you in control of the performance...

a wrx is a drivers car. no point in going for a drivers car that drives itself.

an automatic scooby....


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-28-2012 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Naturally, it would have to be a hybrid. No explosions from sudden jolts (Ford actually has an inertia switch that turns off the fuel pump, in case of impact). Instead an insecure wiring harness causes fatal electrocutions of accident victims who make the mistake of touching the frame on their way out of the vehicle.




You sick, sick man. Shem bless.


Posted by Flyboy217 on Oct-28-2012 23:35:

Hmm maybe I'll have to reconsider, but the Dart doesn't seem to do it for me.

The Outback has the clearance I'd want for hiking, but the 2.5 is slllooww and the 3.6 is $$$ (the local dealerships only carry the Limited editions, and run $35-37k.

I'm surprised there's no car with AWD, automatic, and decent acceleration for under $30k.


Posted by Lews on Oct-28-2012 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
Crap, just realized they don't come in automatic. I can drive a stick, but the girlfriend can't, and besides I'd rather have automatic (or paddle shifters).


Teach her how. It's really not that difficult.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2012 23:56:

Volkswagen Tiguan S with automatic transmission and 4Motion goes for around $26,000. Anything more will put you over the 30K threshold but there are a lot that hover around there and look pretty reasonable.

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Teach her how. It's really not that difficult.


This is probably cheaper


Posted by Flyboy217 on Oct-29-2012 00:13:

Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Volkswagen Tiguan S with automatic transmission and 4Motion goes for around $26,000. Anything more will put you over the 30K threshold but there are a lot that hover around there and look pretty reasonable.


Looks like the Tiguan S gets to 60 mph in 8.5 sec. Maybe I'm spoiled for wanting a car that does better than 7.0.

$30k really isn't so bad. It's just a mental barrier. And a new vehicle at $30k will be around $25k for a used one a couple years old, if I can find one... What did you have in mind?

quote:
This is probably cheaper


Depends on how quickly she learns I suppose


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-29-2012 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
What did you have in mind?


Ford Escape Titanium for just over 32 grand gets you in that window by 0.1 seconds.


quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
Depends on how quickly she learns I suppose


Well, she'll have to let go of your balls.

^ Really, just kidding, man, but the shot at your manhood was too good to pass up.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-29-2012 00:40:

2013 Chevy Equinox - 2.4 Liter DOHC - Direct Injection, AWD, does 0-60 in 6.8 and prices just over $26,000.


And, it's not a Ford. Still, doesn't have the fluid lines of the Subaru, either but...


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-29-2012 00:49:

2013 Dodge Journey - 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, pricing just over $30,000.


Posted by Lira on Oct-29-2012 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
always laugh at americans who can't drive "a stick". WTF in UK 99% of cars are manual.

So do I. Although there are automatic cars here, we all need to learn how to drive with manual cars so we're prepared to drive whatever appears in front of us.


Posted by Flyboy217 on Oct-29-2012 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Well, she'll have to let go of your balls.


Let go?? No, sir, I'll take what I can get


Posted by Flyboy217 on Oct-29-2012 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
always laugh at americans who can't drive "a stick". WTF in UK 99% of cars are manual.


Nah, you just mad cuz you don't have that extra hand free for eating donuts and cheeseburgers

quote:
a wrx is a drivers car. no point in going for a drivers car that drives itself.


I wish the STi's paddle shifters were on the WRX. Then I could feel like an F1 driver instead of a bloody wanker.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-29-2012 13:07:

Dude. Just teach your woman how to drive stick. It isn't that hard. If you teach her about clutch control and how/when to shift gears, she can pretty much learn it herself imo.

Shit, I taught myself how to drive just by reading shit on the internet. All I needed was a few hours and an empty parking lot.


Posted by rubez on Oct-29-2012 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
Nah, you just mad cuz you don't have that extra hand free for eating donuts and cheeseburgers


erm... you're the american, not me. cheeseburgers and donuts are your staple diet!

shouldn't really bother buying a performance car with an automatic gearbox... what's the point?

although a woman who can't shift gears shouldn't be let loose in a performance car anyway, automatic or otherwise


Posted by srussell0018 on Oct-29-2012 14:57:

Just get an Impreza if she can't drive stick. It's essentially the exact same car without a turbocharger. The 2.5L does 0-60 in under 7 too. That's the car that I have.


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