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Let's talk about North Korea
US Navy moves destroyer toward NK
US dispatches F22s for joint exercise with SK
China mobilizing troops at NK border
Let's not forget about the B2 bombers
All of this tension is giving me a huge boner. Even though this is most likely just sabre rattling that will lead to nothing, I can always dream that the US will continue spreading freedom throughout the world.
I'm certainly aroused.
For those who aren't trolling and are actually curious, this is a great interview about the issue: http://www.cfr.org/north-korea/nort...al_flurr-040113
Really we need to just stop sending them humanitarian aid. It's just propping up the crazies and will most likely lead to more South Koreans dying, not to mention the eventual destruction of the North.
DPRK could not withstand the retaliation should they chose to attack an ally of USA. And they know this very well.
Their allegience with China has also seen some blows lately, and while North Korea still is as poor as when they became allies, China has enjoyed the better part of 50 years of economic growth. One can easily say Chinas worldview has changed somewhat. Plus Kim-Jong Un is not Kim Il-Sung. They also trade alot with South Korea, and the way I see it, the only way I can see that NK would dare a large scale attack was if they had China in their back, and I don't see that happening, in any other way than maybe as DPRK acting as a puppet in a larger chinese agenda. Maybe Japan will support them if they're promised parts of South Korea, but I doubt that's an agreement that will ever take place.
I think, and hope, this is just one of their regular flex-strut along the beachwalk. And as long as America has a clear presence in East Asia, I don't think any major escalations of the conflict is imminent.
Seems to be the usual bluff. Hope so.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...fing-about-war/
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| A South Korean executive who employs 1,400 North Korean workers told the AP, a day after returning from the Kaesong plant for a visit, �Tension rises almost every year when it�s time for the U.S.-South Korean drills to take place, but as soon as those drills end, things quickly return to normal.� He added, �I think and hope that this time won�t be different.� |
*retracted*
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| Originally posted by jonSun Seems to be the usual bluff. Hope so. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...fing-about-war/ |
NK is ready..
Lol
Teaching the next South Korean soccer superstar. Bookmark this thread. In 5 years, he will end the war with a boot.
This is about North Korea, you self-centered fuck. 
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| Originally posted by idoru This is about North Korea, you self-centered fuck. |
I'm Canadian. I can go to North Korea. See you in Cuba Jake!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22010726
North Korea plans to start up it's nuclear reactor after collecting dust for years.
John Kerry: "hmmm... we might have to ... uh... defend ourselves."
That is fucking FREEDOM right there. I'm getting blue balls just from all of this dick swinging.
Problem is Kim youngun hasn't really done nothing but show the beginning of the shaft, he's never pulled out the whole cock, leaving us pondering if it's as expected, a regular tiny baby-dick, but maybe, juust maybe he has a magnum dong unlike any of his predecessors.
Only time will tell.
Edit: 2 points will be awarded for each pop culture reference positively identified. "Two points you say? Do you really think I would want your lame fucking "points", Alfi?" Why yes, I do, for these points can be traded in for cash, among other marvelous prizes.
SK workers allowed to leave kaesong but banned from entering.
this is just in from yonhap
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| Originally posted by Marcus Summers SK workers allowed to leave kaesong but banned from entering. this is just in from yonhap |
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| Originally posted by Joss Weatherby This is one of the things that I have on my list of "shit could get real" steps. Thats a HUGE chunk of their (north korea's) GDP. Closing it only hurts themselves. |
Well, we're basically at the stage now where NK has to attack SK to up the ante any further. Slightly exaggerating there, of course, but they are very quickly running out of soft ways to make their point. Of course, if they attack SK, hell will rain down upon them. Next few days should be interesting!
Im kinda scared saying it, cus then maybe it will become true, but something tells me this is about to go bio/chem style.
Yea. North Korea has a massive bio-weapons and chemical weapons capacity (though their bio-weapons program is probably over-exaggerated).
I don't know. North Korea is like the eternal tease... It is getting to the point where no matter the cost I just want to see it over with!
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer NK is ready.. |
I'm calling it now, NK's not going to lift a finger when it comes to attacking another country. Call me crazy, but I'm of the opinion that almost all of NK's shit-talking is done solely to boost its citizens perception of NK, rather than to actually gain any sort of foothold on the international stage. The average NK citizen doesn't have access to the outside world, but people like Un do, and they know what's waiting for them if they were to attack anybody. I don't think we should be letting our panties get in such a twist; let them play all of the crazy propaganda videos that they want, that's all they're ever going to do.
I said the same thing to Nou a few years back during the last time North Korea acted like a little bitch, and look at all of the nothing that happened then. 
Maybe I'm wrong, though. If they do attack anybody, it'll be all over for them within 24 hours.
The problem is that Un is in a slightly precarious position, being a new leader. He needs to impress the generals who lead the military, and we don't know how far he's willing to go to do so.
I'm hoping they won't do anything, but it's extremely hard to tell.
In more news, we're moving anti-missile batteries to Guam. While that's good and I completely support it, I worry that we don't have any based in SK or Japan. The US will be fine if we go to war with NK; our allies in the region won't be. Once we get those missile-batteries up and running, then we can act from a stronger position, without worrying so much.
Give them a promise that if they try anything, we will bomb them back to the stone age, then stop sending aid to them until they accept that they won't become a nuclear power anytime soon.
The Japanese have Aegis guided missile cruisers (the only other country in the world with that system I believe) which is a fully capable boost-phase/terminal phase missile defense system. The US and Japan also both operate PAC-2/3 systems on mainland Japan (PAC being Patriot of Gulf War fame, except better now and not plagued by clock glitches that caused them to miss haha). PAC systems can do terminal kills on most ballistic missiles.
Defending against a North Korean intermediate to long range missile attack is fairly easy. Their medium and short range missiles on the other hand could easily overwhelm any local defenses in South Korea (and possibly parts of mainland Japan). That is the real threat, along with tactical rocket systems, which they have a lot of.
The North Koreans, more than anyone besides the US and Russia (and probably even more so than both of them) have integrated artillery into their battle plan. It is organic from Army Group down to the company. I am talking full on howitzer artillery organic at the company level (in the US at company level you will get 60mm mortars and even at division you are still using mortars organically, howitizers only become attached at that level). These guys mean business when it comes to the indirect fire support. Their entire plan revolves around it.
Not only do they have massive amounts of Self-Propelled guns and towed batteries, but they have an extensive network of HARTS, or Hardened ARTillery Shelters along the DMZ that are supplied from underground tunnel systems. Each of these targets requires precision attack, most likely from multiple bombs/passes. Luckily they don't move and using JDAM with a BLU-109 penetrator means you don't need target designation, but that is a LOT of targets and a LOT of sorties to destroy them all. I guarantee that we can easily get air superiority within 72 hours, but thats 72 hours where those HARTS are going to be mostly free to fire.
Dangerous games we are playing right now.
Honestly I'll be surprised if anything happens, but all it takes is a mistake when tensions get high like this and everything goes out the window.
Look back at ABLE ARCHER '83 and look how close we came to nuclear war... This isn't the same scale as that, but when people aren't talking and rhetoric begins to trounce common sense and precedence you are setting yourself up for disaster.
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