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Posted by Lira on Apr-26-2013 02:27:

Read This! Dear Canadians from Canuckistan, a hungry Southerner needs you



Looks good right? But does it taste good? I don't know...
yet!

Nice day, eh? I hear spring has come, and you can already see some moose (and by that I mean the antlers of the moose have already started sprouting out of the snow). Anyway, sorry to bother you, but I need your help:

I've never had poutine. Ever. And I'm 30, so it's about time I had some. For this reason, I need your help.

A friend of mine, who's already visited your glorious country, tells me poutine is great - but the recipe is truly bizarre as it contains odd ingredients such as "liquid meat fat" and "pint stock". Do we really need these exotic ingredients to make gravy? Is there a less exotic recipe that can still be successfully poutinised? By the way, I assume the gravy is the only challenging bit, and the rest is just chips with cheese or a variation on this theme.

My happiness is in your hands... eh?
All right, this is the recipe we've got:

Ingredients
meat juices
2 tbsp liquid meat fat
30g/1oz plain flour
570ml/1 pint stock
2 tsp gravy browning (optional)
Preparation method
Collect the juices and the fat from the meat you are roasting. Put the juices in a glass jug and allow to stand for a few minutes so that the fat will rise to the surface. Skim off the fat.
Technique: Skimming stock

Watch technique
0:34 mins
Put the roasting tin that you used to cook the meat on the hob on a medium heat and add the fat. (The meat needs to be resting, covered with foil, in a warm place at this point)
Stir in the flour and cook for 1 minute.
Stir in the meat juices and gradually stir in the stock until you get a smooth gravy. Use a wooden spoon and stir all over the surface of the pan to incorporate any meat juices that are stuck to it.
Bring to the boil and allow to simmer for 10 minutes.
Season to taste and add a little gravy browning if desired.


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-26-2013 02:53:

Cheese curds. Always cheese curds.


Posted by Sleightful on Apr-26-2013 03:12:

Re: Dear Canadians from Canuckistan, a hungry Southerner needs you

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I've never had poutine. Ever. And I'm 30, so it's about time I had some.


You've only gotten to 30 because you haven't eaten it regularly.


Posted by Spam on Apr-26-2013 06:42:

Do you know how to make a stock? Here's the very "unprofessional but fuck it it'll work" method of making a poutine gravy.

Throw some veal/beef (or chicken, duck, whatever flavour you're going for) bones, along with a mixture of roughly-chopped carrots+white onions+celery (extra flavour, you can also add some garlic cloves) into a large pot and fill it with water. For a personal serving, you probably don't need anything larger than a 5-6L pot, but I'd use an 8L pot so as to make more gravy. I'd say 3/4 full with bones, and 1.5L of veg mix would work.

Bring to a boil and then lower the heat and let simmer for a long-ass time (about an hour for poultry stock, 1.5-2 hours for beef).

Strain the liquid, and then reduce that at a rolling simmer, tasting every once in a while to check for flavour. When it starts to take on some flavour, add some salt and pepper if you like.

Once it's reduced to about 1L of liquid, you can make a decision to reduce the fuck out of the stock until it's a gravy-like consistency (probably about 1/3-1/2L), or:

Mix some flour (or corn starch) with cold water, and slowly add it to the stock a little bit at a time to thicken the stock and make a "gravy". If you use flour, you need to cook it out for a few minutes, corn starch is cooked by the time the gravy is boiling.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Apr-26-2013 13:35:

Re: Dear Canadians from Canuckistan, a hungry Southerner needs you

quote:
Originally posted by Lira


Looks good right? But does it taste good? I don't know...
yet!

Nice day, eh? I hear spring has come, and you can already see some moose (and by that I mean the antlers of the moose have already started sprouting out of the snow). Anyway, sorry to bother you, but I need your help:

I've never had poutine. Ever. And I'm 30, so it's about time I had some. For this reason, I need your help.

A friend of mine, who's already visited your glorious country, tells me poutine is great - but the recipe is truly bizarre as it contains odd ingredients such as "liquid meat fat" and "pint stock". Do we really need these exotic ingredients to make gravy? Is there a less exotic recipe that can still be successfully poutinised? By the way, I assume the gravy is the only challenging bit, and the rest is just chips with cheese or a variation on this theme.

My happiness is in your hands... eh?
All right, this is the recipe we've got:

Ingredients
meat juices
2 tbsp liquid meat fat
30g/1oz plain flour
570ml/1 pint stock
2 tsp gravy browning (optional)
Preparation method
Collect the juices and the fat from the meat you are roasting. Put the juices in a glass jug and allow to stand for a few minutes so that the fat will rise to the surface. Skim off the fat.
Technique: Skimming stock

Watch technique
0:34 mins
Put the roasting tin that you used to cook the meat on the hob on a medium heat and add the fat. (The meat needs to be resting, covered with foil, in a warm place at this point)
Stir in the flour and cook for 1 minute.
Stir in the meat juices and gradually stir in the stock until you get a smooth gravy. Use a wooden spoon and stir all over the surface of the pan to incorporate any meat juices that are stuck to it.
Bring to the boil and allow to simmer for 10 minutes.
Season to taste and add a little gravy browning if desired.



theres an easier way.... the best poutine in quebec comes from chip waggons, anyone who says otherwise is a heretic..... that being said we have it here in packaged form.... pm me a mailing address and ill send you a goddamn package......

the part that i most likely cant legally send you in brasil (due to import restrictions) are the cheese curds..... and in order to be a propper poutine, you need either st alberts or la frappe curd.... the closest thing to cheese curds in brasil would probably be coalho cheese. I prefer to let the curds reach room temperature before making my poutine as it maximizes the "squeak" factor. also be sure to layer the poutine before adding your gravy.... fries / curds / fries /curds so that all the squeaky artery clogging goodness isnt limited to the top surface alone.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-26-2013 13:39:

Re: Re: Dear Canadians from Canuckistan, a hungry Southerner needs you

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
theres an easier way.... the best poutine in quebec comes from chip waggons, anyone who says otherwise is a heretic..... that being said we have it here in packaged form.... pm me a mailing address and ill send you a goddamn package......

the part that i most likely cant legally send you in brasil (due to import restrictions) are the cheese curds..... and in order to be a propper poutine, you need either st alberts or la frappe curd.... the closest thing to cheese curds in brasil would probably be coalho cheese. I prefer to let the curds reach room temperature before making my poutine as it maximizes the "squeak" factor. also be sure to layer the poutine before adding your gravy.... fries / curds / fries /curds so that all the squeaky artery clogging goodness isnt limited to the top surface alone.


My guess is he can handle the fries and curds himself... just send a can of the gravey. Of course the canned stuff from St. Huberts or any of the others is no where near as good as from a waggon but he's from Brazil... what does he know.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Apr-26-2013 14:02:

Re: Re: Re: Dear Canadians from Canuckistan, a hungry Southerner needs you

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
My guess is he can handle the fries and curds himself... just send a can of the gravey. Of course the canned stuff from St. Huberts or any of the others is no where near as good as from a waggon but he's from Brazil... what does he know.


I have an aunt in abitibi who owns a chip waggon.... ill get her to send me the good stuff


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-26-2013 14:57:

Can you buy gravy mix (powdered stuff) at the supermarket?? The best poutine is made with cheap packaged chicken gravy imo.


The only two things you need to make legit poutine are proper cheese curds and CHICKEN gravy. It has to be chicken!! Trust!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-26-2013 14:58:

And yes it tastes amazing. Fuck now I want poutine.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Apr-26-2013 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Can you buy gravy mix (powdered stuff) at the supermarket?? The best poutine is made with cheap packaged chicken gravy imo.


The only two things you need to make legit poutine are proper cheese curds and CHICKEN gravy. It has to be chicken!! Trust!


if you insist on chicken gravy, the only way to go is the st hubert packs...

i prefer beef gravy myself which is why im a big fan of the Berthelet powder

also curly fries > straight cut fries for poutine... more surface area for gravy coating....


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-26-2013 16:40:

Re: Dear Canadians from Canuckistan, a hungry Southerner needs you

I applaud you for your effort, but I gotta give you a near failing grade for poor research.

This is the gravy you wanna use:

Written form: http://foodwishes.blogspot.no/2007/05/buttermilk-fried-chicken-why-didnt.html (scroll halfway down)

And fresh cheese curd really is a key ingredient if you're going for authentic Quebec style poutine. You should be able to get some at a dairy, if you can't find it in the store. In the larger industry-sized ones they'll probably have uses for it already, but if you're lucky you might find a family run one that would help you out.
If not, then here's a recipe.

I know the traditional recipe calls for beef gravy, but that's just propaganda spread by the The Man to keep you coming back to buy their poutine.

And yes, you WILL need to cut and fry your own fries. Oven-baked frozen shit won't do, unless you happen to find some really phat ones. I don't know how big your fingers are, but they should be about the size of your index finger.

Edit: The rennet for the curd you should be able to find in most health stores, but I'd recommend buying the cultures needed as making it yourself takes a few months. But then again, maybe a dairy could be helpful in this department.

Edit2: Or maybe they could help you out at the university you work at? They probably have a lab and a couple of thermophilic cultures.
This is of course based on a scenario where you want Poutine today.
If that's not the case then I'd simply order from that website.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Apr-26-2013 16:51:

Fuck all of you non Quebs are so fucking wrong. Twice cooked thick cut home fries. Cooked in peanut oil (original). Real cheese. Real sauce (beef). People that say packet sauce rules, have never had a poutine. The secret is a low acidity white vinegar to round it out. The fresher the curd cheese, the harder your cock will be. Viagra for fatties, and the best hangover cure.

I only ate it a few times a year, and for good reason. Any more, and good poutine will kill you.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-26-2013 16:58:

Lol shut the fuck up Jay. And suck mine!


Posted by Guest on Apr-26-2013 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
The fresher the curd cheese, the harder your cock will be. Viagra for fatties, and the best hangover cure.



Posted by Banora on Apr-26-2013 17:05:

Finally had poutine last week. Goddamn it was epic.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-26-2013 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Fuck all of you non Quebs are so fucking wrong. Twice cooked thick cut home fries. Cooked in peanut oil (original). Real cheese. Real sauce (beef). People that say packet sauce rules, have never had a poutine. The secret is a low acidity white vinegar to round it out. The fresher the curd cheese, the harder your cock will be. Viagra for fatties, and the best hangover cure.

I only ate it a few times a year, and for good reason. Any more, and good poutine will kill you.


Oh so I forgot about the peanut oil. Fuck you. And I refer you to my comment about The Man regarding beef or chicken gravy.
Anyways, if you want chicken gravy THAT is the recipe you wanna follow, although I haven't tried to B�chamel it up with some white vinegar.


Posted by djhaziel on Apr-26-2013 17:15:

Is there such thing as vegetarian poutine??


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Apr-26-2013 17:15:

All you haters hate...Poutine is from my hood, not yours. You know what else is from my hood? Smegma. Talk about squeaky cheese.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-26-2013 17:18:


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Apr-26-2013 17:24:

You should read my posts in the voice of Gordon Ramsey. That poofter twat.


Posted by Lira on Apr-26-2013 17:46:

Talking Thanks everyone! For brevity's sake I'm replying to just a few, but I appreciate all of your replies

Curly fries?! Hmm... well, I guess I'll have to do everything from scratch then, and cut them like that myself as that's also something not easily found down here. To be honest, I only found out curly fries existed earlier this year
quote:
Originally posted by Spam

This is awesome! By the way, although I'm willing to give it a try even if I have to use meat, is there a way I could avoid it? I'm meat intolerant (really, my body hates the stuff), and that's annoying as it sounds. I should've mentioned this before :/

Although, there are a handful of meat-based products I can eat because there's so little meat in them whatever bothers my body is long gone by the time it gets inside my system (but it's mainly fish powder... and dried fish skin).
quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Can you buy gravy mix (powdered stuff) at the supermarket?? The best poutine is made with cheap packaged chicken gravy imo.

Nops. Most Brazilians wouldn't know what to do with it, so any attempt to sell the stuff down here would be met with some resistance.
quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
theres an easier way.... the best poutine in quebec comes from chip waggons, anyone who says otherwise is a heretic..... that being said we have it here in packaged form.... pm me a mailing address and ill send you a goddamn package......

the part that i most likely cant legally send you in brasil (due to import restrictions) are the cheese curds..... and in order to be a propper poutine, you need either st alberts or la frappe curd.... the closest thing to cheese curds in brasil would probably be coalho cheese. I prefer to let the curds reach room temperature before making my poutine as it maximizes the "squeak" factor. also be sure to layer the poutine before adding your gravy.... fries / curds / fries /curds so that all the squeaky artery clogging goodness isnt limited to the top surface alone.

I guess I'll give coalho cheese a go - I love it anyway

My main concern is... how much do these packages weigh in general? And, most importantly, how can I pay you? I'm sure sending it to a different continent must be pricey


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-26-2013 20:40:

Man, Brazil sounds like a goddamn shithole.


Posted by Lira on Apr-26-2013 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Man, Brazil sounds like a goddamn shithole.

Well, I'm sure there are more Brazilians there than Canadians here, so there's very little from Canada in Brazil (I've met just one Canadian in my whole life). There's no poutine down here, but we've got cheese buns, diabetes-inducing flan (not quite what you guys call flan), and my favourite, Brazilian pastel (pronounced "pass-TOW"). Not to mention Guaraná!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-26-2013 20:51:

Lol I'm totally just busting your balls.


Posted by Lira on Apr-26-2013 20:56:

And I'm actually jealous because you're kind of right

GINGER ALE HAS JUST ARRIVED, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! GINGER ALE!!!


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