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Posted by future_newbie on Nov-26-2013 17:24:

Hard Drives Management

I'm really confused about this, don't know how to go.

How many HD's are necessary for correct tasks distribution?

So, one main hd for the daw (and only the daw?), one dedicated to audio samples and various patches, one dedicated to vst's/plugins, one for vst/plugins content, one for general purpose shit and one for pron?

Is that ok? How many hd's do I need and what task each one should fulfil.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-26-2013 17:44:

Your DAW/host, plugins, and their presets can/should all reside on your main system drive. Keep your samples and sample libraries (e.g., for Kontakt, romplers) on a separate drive, though. Also, it's a good idea to keep your project files (i.e., your DAW's files and any audio folders associated with your projects) on a dedicated drive. And, make sure you have a dedicated backup drive for your most important files (use an off-site backup [e.g., cloud storage] as well).

Most pros keep their p0rn stashed on a separate computer altogether and, if you're really serious about it, you'll probably want at least two 2TB drives, plus another two for backup.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-26-2013 19:13:

i only have one harddrive, and from time to time i upload a zip file of my projects to the cloud for backup. this way i know that my legacy will live on forever (in the archives of NSA). if i die, all my work is still alive - you just have to dig deep for it.


Posted by future_newbie on Nov-26-2013 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Your DAW/host, plugins, and their presets can/should all reside on your main system drive. Keep your samples and sample libraries (e.g., for Kontakt, romplers) on a separate drive, though. Also, it's a good idea to keep your project files (i.e., your DAW's files and any audio folders associated with your projects) on a dedicated drive. And, make sure you have a dedicated backup drive for your most important files (use an off-site backup [e.g., cloud storage] as well).

Most pros keep their p0rn stashed on a separate computer altogether and, if you're really serious about it, you'll probably want at least two 2TB drives, plus another two for backup.


haha, that last line was cracking

Btw cryo, I was wondering, do you think it would be better if I was to buy an external hd and install there my daw/plugins rather than moving everything else on to that ext drive? Cause right now I got everything packed on my main drive.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-26-2013 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik


Most pros keep their p0rn stashed on a separate computer altogether and, if you're really serious about it, you'll probably want at least two 2TB drives, plus another two for backup.


No, real pros keep their p0rn on multiple SSD arrays in Raid0. You'll want to ask that Fawn4Sean guy; he has like 18 SSD's all dedicated to his 4k HD P0rn collection. He regards himself more as unsecured offsite storage for the adult industry.

Be careful though, he has this really illegal stuff involving thai funboys that he made while drug trafficking in the region.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-27-2013 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by future_newbie
Btw cryo, I was wondering, do you think it would be better if I was to buy an external hd and install there my daw/plugins rather than moving everything else on to that ext drive? Cause right now I got everything packed on my main drive.


No, keep your DAW/plugins on your main system drive. I personally wouldn't use an external drive for anything other than backing up files.

If you have a desktop/tower computer, how many hard drive slots does it have, and how many internal (e.g., SATA) hard drives can you mother board support? Or, are you using a laptop?


Posted by future_newbie on Nov-27-2013 13:09:

It has at least 4 more slots. I am with asus motherboard.

So?


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-27-2013 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by future_newbie
It has at least 4 more slots. I am with asus motherboard.

So?


Dude, I know it's states Newbie in your name, but I don't think Dave could really do anything more for you unless he came over to your house, and installed the drives for you. Read his two previous posts, it's all there. 4 slots mean you have space for 4 drives. 1 system, and three extra.


Posted by future_newbie on Nov-27-2013 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Dude, I know it's states Newbie in your name, but I don't think Dave could really do anything more for you unless he came over to your house, and installed the drives for you. Read his two previous posts, it's all there. 4 slots mean you have space for 4 drives. 1 system, and three extra.


Ok, I got it.

Sorry, I didn't even know you could add more drives "internally".

Case solved.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-27-2013 19:39:

So, with four more internal HD slots, I'd suggest the following, at a minimum:

C: (your existing system drive): OS, DAWs, plugins, and all other software

Drive 2: Music Projects - in your DAW's preferences, set this drive as your default for all projects, associated audio files, etc.

Drive 3: Samples - put all of your sample libraries here, including one shots, libraries for your instrument plugins (most of them will ask you where to put them. I organize my Samples into separate folders for each developer (e.g., Native Instruments, Spectrasonics) and subfolders for each instrument (e.g., Kontakt, Maschine, Omnisphere, Trilian).

Drive 4: Backup/Archive

You might want to consider using the fourth drive as a RAID array, but I haven't personally done that, so maybe RANN, L4C, or someone else more computer savvy can advise you there.


Posted by future_newbie on Nov-27-2013 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Drive 2: Music Projects - in your DAW's preferences, set this drive as your default for all projects, associated audio files, etc.


Wow, an entire dedicated drive only for that?

Well, ok!


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-27-2013 20:29:

an entire drive isnt much bro. its like a night on the city, if that.

i would:

first drive: OS and all software
second drive: all projects, samples, renders etc etc

then have another computer/laptop for porn, music, image-libraries, your personal documents etc.

then have both computers backed up to an external drive which you leave in a firesafe. also burn out everything important on dvd and put at your parents house from time to time. except the porn.


Posted by future_newbie on Nov-27-2013 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
an entire drive isnt much bro. its like a night on the city, if that.

i would:

first drive: OS and all software
second drive: all projects, samples, renders etc etc

then have another computer/laptop for porn, music, image-libraries, your personal documents etc.

then have both computers backed up to an external drive which you leave in a firesafe. also burn out everything important on dvd and put at your parents house from time to time. except the porn.


That also could be a solution. Sounds interesting, cause really...I'm a bit perplexed using a whole new drive just for projects and audio related files.
My cubase folder for projects and everything related is under 3.0 gb and I've been producing for an year...I mean prolly a usb flash drive would be enough...


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-28-2013 15:38:

I do

1 OS ( 2 partitions 1 for audio, other for porn )
2 Audio programs
3 Audio drive `( current projects , recording . bouncing )
4-6 Storage

1 and 2 are pretty redundant and could be put on the same drive


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-30-2013 01:01:

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

2 partitions


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

2 partitions


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

2 partitions


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

2 partitions


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

2 partitions


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

2 partitions


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-02-2013 21:17:

its incredible how PC's and anything not official like porn or torrents or really anything like a file sharing site don't mix. PCs remind me of like post AIDS. No fun. OH well. They are fantastic as slaves were you don't install anything but legit software and don't have it touching the internet.

fucking might just get the mac pro. I had to recreate my mbr the other dray for some reason as i migrate to a bigger SSD with the command line. i mean only in pc world does a computer become so stupid that it can't just assume maybe this disk is bootable and if i'm not booting, i will just boot this and see what happens. I don't understand how anyone that doesn't know programming and computers at a moderate level can operate a PC.


Posted by evo8 on Dec-03-2013 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
fucking might just get the mac pro.


Bastard.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-03-2013 15:06:

they aren't going to sell so you can probably get one two. I must say i am loving Sonar tho. It just makes logic look like a toy. But fucking windows.


Posted by cryophonik on Dec-03-2013 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
I must say i am loving Sonar tho.


Didn't realize that you had come over to the dark side. Are you on X3? If not, you should be.


Posted by evo8 on Dec-03-2013 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
they aren't going to sell so you can probably get one two. I must say i am loving Sonar tho. It just makes logic look like a toy. But fucking windows.


you think they will go on sale for cheap?? hmmmm not sure about that
think id rather spend the cash on a synth or 2

if i won the lottery id have one in a heartbeat, beautiful design


Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-03-2013 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
its incredible how PC's and anything not official like porn or torrents or really anything like a file sharing site don't mix. PCs remind me of like post AIDS. No fun. OH well. They are fantastic as slaves were you don't install anything but legit software and don't have it touching the internet.


I keep telling people this and I get a bunch of shit about being "a mac fanboy". PC's are a fucking joke these days. I'm working (actual work, srsbznss) on my asus laptop yesterday, and I get a pop up from windows telling me it's going to install a windows update and I have 10 minutes to before it happens. No fucking option to postpone.

I formatted it under a year ago, and since then I lost count around the 130th windows update (not joking) which was a good few months ago.

So the updates takes an hour on a T3 connection, then it goes to apply the updates, blue screens and tells me the update was unsucessful.

Thanks, Gates, you cvnt. over an hour of my working day gone because windows is a POS.

My dedicated Window8 PC here at my business. SAME FUCKING THING. Does an update during which the internet connection is crippled by microsoft's 90's era bandwidth update servers, only to fail on the last step.

All this for just $90+ shipping and handling. It's no wonder a report out today shows that windows 8 has not saved the PC market and sales are still declining.

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
fucking might just get the mac pro.


Do it biarch. I have a feeling actually owning one will change your mind and you'll get all moist.

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
they aren't going to sell so you can probably get one two.

You're on crack. Those things are going to sell as if you get a free motorboat on Lucy Pinder with every purchase.

Every design/mac pleb will buy one just to get it and don't forget, Apple have done something very smart by waiting so long;

The general max life cycle of an apple product is 6 years - that is the point at which the newest OS is not compatible with a legacy machine of that age. For instance the 2007 macs can't run Mavericks (without haxoring it).

Every studio that has a mac pro knows the days are getting very short for their Mac Pros, and some facilities managers I've spoken to said they will buy them just to keep up with the OS (as most the programs are backwards compatible, but the OS is not).


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-03-2013 21:11:

i needed a server and computer for my new design hobby. I just don't get it. I have all legit software and a i had to fuck about with the ram voltage to get it to boot with 4 dimms, i had to fix an mbr command line style. I just forgot how terrible pcs are for creativity. I mean logic is shitty but fuck, i guess i will just use bidule for the midi stuff.

the boot thing is just fucking stupid. There is no way you can have a functioning pc and not know your way around computers. I mean i am just imaging some girls i know that struggle with iTunes. Thanks god i still remember xp so i didn't have to work too hard.

Well the computer is set up, it ain't changing. It is powerful as fuck but i hate wasting time. And considering i bought the OS , which lets face it , nobody does, i mean don't give me a screen saying your confused. Do something. Its like that annoying new guy at work that has to be spoon fed everything. your job is to boot. Figure it out. Use those cycles to just find a pattern that night appear bootable and go with it.


Posted by itsamemario on Dec-09-2013 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
I keep telling people this and I get a bunch of shit about being "a mac fanboy". PC's are a fucking joke these days. I'm working (actual work, srsbznss) on my asus laptop yesterday, and I get a pop up from windows telling me it's going to install a windows update and I have 10 minutes to before it happens. No fucking option to postpone.


lol u noob mac fanboiiiii. there are seven ways to cancel that.
but any smart person would have bothered filling out page asking u about automatic updates when installing the OS, instead of just hitting next like a fucking noob

_YOU_ made that problem, not Windows

And none of the other scenarios have ever happened to me, and I'm also using a Asus laptop.. So I'm gonna say it's all user error that's fucking up your computer.

And you're totally wrong on the mac pro's gonna sell. They're not.
Mac as a desktop is something only old farts cling to. They've tipped, all reports support this, and they're not likely to invest much money in an ever-decreasing market, being the cash-hungry company they are.
But don't worry, soon you will get Logic for your MacPad, and it will be as powerful as any mac pro has ever been.
the design of the new mac pro is proof of this. that round tube looking thing doesnt even resemble a desktop/workstation. it's the last-gen hybrid thing, before they scrap the line altogether.
It's the fucking iTrashcan.


Posted by UrbanNinja on Dec-09-2013 15:34:

I use my samsung windows laptop for djing now because i get better response than the mac but when it comes to producing call me a apple fan boy.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Dec-09-2013 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by itsamemario
So I'm gonna say it's all user error that's fucking up your computer.


this. and a mac can just as easily be fucked up by noobs, and then they cant ask friends for help either cause no one of the friends have that shit. glad i sold my mac the day steven jobbs died, my DIY barebone with Win8 works awesome.


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