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beatmatching without touching your records

theres a very famous quote by roger sanchez where he goes a good dj never touches his records which is fucking hard atm but i was just wondering how many of you guys were up to that level where you can do it all by pitch... thats pretty cool id love to do that... actually can do it a little but i find its much easier if i touch the record cause then i can keep it in line by whatever and THEN make a minor adjustment to the pitch... and if i was too do it all by pitch i might bring it too fast or slow and not be able to get it back to my original position well enough so that it trainwrecks :/ know what i mean or did i totally fuck that up ?
anyway any tips for this method?
thankyou!

I don't touch the record when i beatmatch, unless you count the time where i push off the record so that its on beat with the playing record. I just start the record on beat with the playing record and then figure out whether to move the pitch lower or higher.
when your first start djing this isn't always the best method to use, but eventually i think its good to getinto the habit of controling the record solely useing the pitch. when you notice that one record is getting to fast, you can move the pitch down on it and then move it back to the normal position. also by doing this you get a feel for the exact place to put the pitch slider so both the records are as beatmatched as you can make them.

I've made it a point to not touch my record at all anymore. And I've got 2 different tables so I'm learning the difference in a +10 and a +8 pitch adjustment. It's tough, but it'll pay off in the end.

Pitch only all the way. It is the only way you can be 100% certain how much you are taking off or adding. Touching brings uncertainties like stickyness of hands/record and pressure applied/added.

I learned from the start to use pitch only and it is paying off as you will never ever hear an audible pitch bend from myself or others who can utilise this technique!

It is the same either way, if you have always touched the record, then you get used to it. I touch the records and I don't worry about anything because I know the exact feel of basically all my records. I know how much a little push will affect the tune. I think its just personal preference. You can't really say there is a certain way to utilize your dj skills, thats like saying there is only one proper way to paint a picture. Everybody has their own style.

When I started out, I used to manually speed up or slow the record because I was new to beatmatching...it helped, but I noticed that adjusting the pitch gives more flexibility in terms of matching simply because it sounds more fluid...it's really hard to notice the change in sound when matching with the pitch.
But at times, your forced to use your hands to adjust...only to a certain extent though.

I dont touch the record

its all pitch for me

at first it was kinda hard.....but now its easier then it was by touching the record......it sounds better too

I've been spinning 1 year and i can beatmatch very well without touching the vinyl

I use the spindle and pitch only

peace.

isnt using the spindale*de nipple* bad fro the tables?

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Originally posted by migitymike isnt using the spindale*de nipple* bad fro the tables?

not unless you're using belt drives
it's not putting any strain on the motor (if someone knows 100% otherwise, please let me know)


as for the question at hand
i touch the record

however, once i get myself a pair of tech 12s, i'm going to try the pitch method
the tables i have right now, the pitch isn't accurate enough
even with touching the record, it's hard sometimes to get it perfect
and then halfway through my mix, the pitch with waver a little bit...

makes it tough

Using the spindle does not effect the tables.

Its actually a very good compromise between the pitch method and the push method

Its not as difficult as the pitch method
and it doesn't sound nearly as bad as a push

for me this is the only way

besides fingerprints are bad for sound quality.

try it, u have to be fairly close to begin with because twisting the spindle makes less of a pitch change than a push?

peace

this is somethign I wish i could do better, i started off learning by touching the record and now im trying to get the hang of not touching it.

its a bit weird at first but im touching the record less and less (keeps them vinyl cleaner too)

it really depends what i am doing

i usually get the incoming record beatmatched by just using the slider...then when i start to mix and both records are live...depending on the severity of the adjustment needed...ill either touch the platter or use pitch

so you don't really notice a pitch change either way


however sometimes its impossible to use JUST the pitch to beatmatch...
for example if you have a tune that needs to be at +7% or something
if you don't use your hands to speed that record up you'll be waiting forever for it to catch up

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Originally posted by Kid Lax however sometimes its impossible to use JUST the pitch to beatmatch... for example if you have a tune that needs to be at +7% or something if you don't use your hands to speed that record up you'll be waiting forever for it to catch up

it takes like less then 1 second for it to speed up that fast

unless you've got really shitty tables

Im not a good Dj ... I touch the record ....lol

I've been beatmatching for a few years now. I have always just used the pitch adj.

The only time a touch the record is when I push off...I use nothing but the pitch slider...I've been trying to figure out how djs touch the record to beatmatch...it always throws the record way off the times I've tries it when playing around with my tables..

well what i do.. is I push on the label (or slow down on the platter depending if i need to speed up or slow down). so i push on the label until the beats are aligned.. then they get screwed up again. so i speed it up. push,speed it up,push,speed it up,until they dont get screwed up again..
maybe my procedure sucks and someone can recommend another?

ya try not to touch the record unless its really fucking up, usually if not pitch control i tweak the middle pin to increase speed or brush the platter to slow it down..

my pitch control is messed cuz i tweaked it on my tech12s to maximum effect, so +8 is more like +12, very sensitive, and i always forget where my original pitch setting was at.. heh

HEre's how to use the pitch slider to line it up fast.


1. Throw the record in your headset.
2. Listen if it's to slow or to fast.
3. Throw it a lot faster or slower than you need.
4. Keep going back and forth, with _fast_ jumps.
5. You will start to see it's between say +2 and +2.5 %
6. Now you can start to do is _slower_, goign back and forth
7. After a while you'll just hear it.

Good luck.

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Originally posted by DJ LIQUID it takes like less then 1 second for it to speed up that fast unless you've got really shitty tables

no no no

i mean okay say the track you are beatmatching has to be at 7.5% to be beatmatched with the live record

if you don't touch the record at all after you let it go, it will take forever for the beat to catch up because you can only go 0.5% faster than the live record...and when you initially let the record go...you rapidly move the pitch slider up and down until you find the general area that it needs to be in to be beatmatched

bah i can't explain it

it has nothing to do with the tables (i have 1210 m3d's)
bah nevermind hahaha

Don't worry Kid, most of us understood what you ment, I think Liquid just read you to fast.

Well I'd just like to say that Ferry Corsten touches the record all the time. I've personally seen him do it live and I've also seen him do it all the time on a couple of vidz I have.

So don't despair. Even if you touch the record you can still be one of the world's best DJs.

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Originally posted by Haunted maybe my procedure sucks and someone can recommend another?

If you use top direct drive decks, then they have very high torque motors, so usually when you speed the record up by touching the vinyl, it will very quickly adjust back to pitch which you have it adjusted to, so the beats will sound out (slower) so you'll need to speed it up again.

You don't need to touch the vinyl once you've released the record.(i use the platter anyway when releasing) If your record is playing 0n 33, then hold down the 33 button, and gently tap the 45 button to speed up. To slow down use the platter, not the record. If your record is playing on 45 and you need to speed up the record it's a different story. This is a very tricky technique and has to be mastered before seemlessly producing it. To speed it up, quickly + the pitch up about 0.5 (dependind on how far the beats are out) andf shift back to slighty more than it should've been, baring in mind your mix has slightly slipped out and needs + adjusting.

I do never touch the record! Top quote from Roger Sanchez, i've never heard him say that, but it's true.

I touch the record only. no pitch for me

just joking you, but i try to use the pitch as little as possible. well right now Im on stantons so the pitch isnt so accurate anyways.

I just set up a nice 45 min set that requires almost no adjustment to the pitch... I mean, the records lined up all seem to have the same bpm, which makes them great for nice extended mixs.

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