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Posted by nrjizer on Oct-17-2002 07:39:

the TA forums are getting out of hand...

I love the TA forums, but the forums themselves are well, extremely irritating. Fighting through the 3+ popups that I get every time I load a new page was bad enough, now it has this crazy anti ad-buster pro crap, a little setup that eliminates anti-popup/anti-cookie programs. Worst part is, it FORCES ME TO TURN ON MY COOKIES, or it wont let me into the forums. I absolutely hate cookies... they track where you go, they hide themselves in a windows file (index.dat) where it becomes IMPOSSABLE to remove them without special software, and they pop up ads even when your computer is completely idle.

This is really getting rediculous. I understand mainting TA requires money. I dont mind putting up with a popup or two and banner ads. But the cookie requirements, and the latest batch of popups ive been getting are downright annoying. One stupid x10 ad that it popups sits and hides in the taskbar for a minute, then popups when you least expect it. Short of Alt+f4, there is no way to close it! If you press the little X on the right of the window, it just minimizes itself and waits a minute to popup again. Another ad opens a blank window in fullscreen mode (press f11 to understand how that works), causing your entire screen to be 100% COVERED in a blank page. Again, Alt+f4 is your only way out.

Please, get rid of this shit. Im not trying to be bitter, I love this board and the community on it, but this is commercialism to the extreme.


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-17-2002 08:45:

Hmmm it hasn't been that fucked here but I hate those popups too...


Posted by Freefall on Oct-17-2002 09:31:

I third this comment.
The pop-ups are damn annoying I hate all forms of advertising. It's not as if any of the TA visitors are actually going to click on the pop-up ffs.
It's all about money obviously, there are other ways of making a site break-even.
With my site I've decided not to give in and put advertising on it, else it just drives visitors away, though as a result I'm paying in excess of �500per month to support the infrastructure.


Posted by Technaut on Oct-17-2002 09:44:

rofl
I aint getting ne pop ups.

but if you guys hate them that much, then you fork out for the server bills


Posted by dj_nomiz on Oct-17-2002 10:03:

i only ever received 1 pop up everytime i surf this site, doesn't seem to be that bad


Posted by Porky on Oct-17-2002 10:07:

Sneaker Pimp HERE YA GO!

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer , there is no way to close it! If you press the little X on the right of the window, it just minimizes itself and waits a minute to popup again.


THERE IS A WAY TO CLOSE IT

PRESS CTRL+ALT+DEL
click on Task Manager
click on Applications... choose the url that refused to die and then
click "end task" near the bottom!!

oy!

Pork


Posted by Blik on Oct-17-2002 11:32:

Don't have any pop-ups

PM Swamper about it, he is the only one who can do something about it


Posted by Swamper on Oct-17-2002 13:36:

Find me 1 credible source that can verify what you say about cookies. Cookies can ONLY be accessed by the SAME domain that created them, hence this issue of 'privacy' is moot. Further, no cookie ever contains vital info - usually nothing more than your userid (aka forums ID) or time of last access/ad displayed/page viewed. Cookies don't spawn popups either, that's dependent on the web pages currently open in your browser. The reason I block the cookies too is so that people don't get a popup every time after they disable their popup blocker.

Find out what cookies really do and then you'll understand their purpose - the reason you end up seeing popups on EVERY page is because you have cookies off and cookies are the way to check to see the last time you saw a popup and whether or not to show you one again - no cookie, means, popup for you every time.

quote:
Originally posted by Freefall
With my site I've decided not to give in and put advertising on it, else it just drives visitors away, though as a result I'm paying in excess of �500per month to support the infrastructure.


That's way too much, PM me with what that gets you and I'll find another host for you.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-17-2002 14:20:

Another easy way to close it is to right click on the pop up in the taskbar and then select close.


Posted by MisterOpus1 on Oct-17-2002 14:56:

try this website:

AnalogX

It helps with those pop-up ads. You'll see them once, then you just select the popups you no longer want to see from the list of websites shown, and it zaps them off for you the next time you enter the website. Of course, you have to do this everytime a new popup ad comes in, but it works nicely for awhile.

Hope that helps.


Posted by verminator on Oct-17-2002 15:02:

hmm

i get one small popup once in a while, which is totally ok for me

i dont freak out of one small popup

and it doesnt even lead to something else when you close it.. lol
can't really see the harm in this

and as other peeps have mentioned so far, its only to right click and close or push alt-f4

its only a matter of seconds, and i dont really think that any of the users here on the forum are so important that only a few seconds is a matter of millions of $$$$


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Oct-17-2002 15:13:

i only get 1 pop up and thats when the first time i load of ta.com/forum after my comp has been idle for a few hours or so. It must be a problem at your end or summing....


Posted by piggy on Oct-17-2002 15:35:

I usually don't mind the popups..its just that webcam one that doesn't go away when you click the x in the corner...the rest i just right click, close..

for the webcam one you gotta press alt - f4.


Posted by sothis on Oct-17-2002 16:05:

i never get one, its usually an average of about 4

as far as offsetting some of the costs, what about setting up a paypal system with benefits?

for example, you pay 5 bucks, and then you can change your username (instead of it being free now), get to enter a special area, maybe the ability to download extra tracks, etc. 5 bucks isnt a lot, and if the incentive is good enough, it could work out nicely... at least to help with some of the cost


Posted by Az on Oct-17-2002 16:08:

NO!!!!!! I thought I'd seen enough yes car credit ads to last me a life time, but one just popped up in my face


Posted by torontotrance on Oct-17-2002 16:19:

rofl....more bitter ppl.....my plan is working.....hehehe

on a serious note...ya need revenue to run a site...so i don't mind the odd popup.


Posted by Swamper on Oct-17-2002 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by sothis
for example, you pay 5 bucks, and then you can change your username (instead of it being free now), get to enter a special area, maybe the ability to download extra tracks, etc. 5 bucks isnt a lot, and if the incentive is good enough, it could work out nicely... at least to help with some of the cost


Hmm paying for download, umm.. lol, no.

Besides, sites with those paypal buttons have their visitors assume they're making a ton on donations when in actuality they may get $5 a month.


Posted by nrjizer on Oct-17-2002 20:02:

Re: HERE YA GO!

quote:
Originally posted by DevanteS
THERE IS A WAY TO CLOSE IT

PRESS CTRL+ALT+DEL
click on Task Manager
click on Applications... choose the url that refused to die and then
click "end task" near the bottom!!

oy!

Pork


Alt+f4 also works... but when I have to do this every time I load a new page, it gets downright annoying.

quote:
Find me 1 credible source that can verify what you say about cookies


here are a few from a quick google search:

http://www.junkbusters.com/cookies.html

http://www.cookiecentral.com/content.phtml?area=2&id=2 - a whole lot of information there

http://www.cookiecentral.com/ccstory/

What I really hate is that doubleclick bs. Every time I turn my cookies on and browse for more than 5 minutes I end up with them on my computer. Im not accusing TA of hosting this kind of crap, but I dont want to have to turn my cookies on and off every time I try load up the forums.

And this anti ad-buster thing seems way over the top. Tell me, swamper, is it really necessary to cram advertisements down peoples throats? Does your sponsor/advertiser/whatever complain that people may be getting by them? Im just wondering why all this is necessary on a music site.


Posted by torontotrance on Oct-17-2002 20:07:

hmmmmm...funny how people complain

swamper is not driving it down people's throats...true i had the same problem with many popups....but i changed the options in my IE browser and it works fine now..i get one per session.

Funny that expect to get everything for free, something has to pay for the site's upkeep, something has to keep it going, after all, it does cost money to run this site. You people are just ungreatful for the site.


Posted by jp on Oct-17-2002 20:34:

What pop-ups? No pop-ups here


Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-17-2002 20:44:

i only get one, just one

i used to have that problem, with popups and stuff...
i reformatted and it's fine
must be all that porn you download


Posted by Linx_da_cat on Oct-17-2002 20:48:

yeah guys...there is only ONE popup on the forums. ONE. that means one per every login. that's it. so if you get another pop up when you come back to the main forums page, then your settings in IE are messed.


Posted by Swamper on Oct-17-2002 20:52:

Re: Re: HERE YA GO!

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
And this anti ad-buster thing seems way over the top. Tell me, swamper, is it really necessary to cram advertisements down peoples throats? Does your sponsor/advertiser/whatever complain that people may be getting by them? Im just wondering why all this is necessary on a music site.


Those sites seem to be more a rant on DoubleClick and it's rise to being the #1 Ad company on the net more than anything else, anyways if you're that paranoid and you use IE you can go to Tools->Internet Options->Security->Privacy->Edit and you can specify which sites you allow cookies from.


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-17-2002 21:11:

Re: the TA forums are getting out of hand...

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
they hide themselves in a windows file (index.dat) where it becomes IMPOSSABLE to remove them without special software


Impossible? Not on my OS anyway.

1. Make a new text document.
2. Open it.
3. Without typing anything in it, go to save as.
4. Go to the directory of index.dat (I forget what it is).
5. Make sure you're saving as type All Files *.*
6. Type index.dat and hit save.

For me, anyway, this reduces the size of the file index.dat to 0 bytes.

Cheers,

Arbiter


Posted by Greedy on Oct-19-2002 05:46:

while thousands of ppl are worried about getting shot walking outside, there are ppl here who complain about popups on their computer.
Get a life.


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