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Posted by djnitride on Jan-08-2015 05:41:

Camel Audio closing shop?

Thread on KVR makes me sad as Alchemy is one of my favorite synths and it doesn't look like it will be getting a V2 or any new official sound expansions.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewt...hp?f=1&t=429204

Really shitty

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 06:02:

Yeah, that sucks. My favorite synth, too. It seemed like they were doing pretty well.

Posted by djnitride on Jan-08-2015 06:08:

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Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah, that sucks. My favorite synth, too. It seemed like they were doing pretty well.

That's the weird thing... one day they had a huge presence on KVR, doing really cool stuff on the iPad and putting out awesome sound expansions and the next they just kinda vanished...

I hope they are all in good health but it sounds like something tragic happened

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 06:13:

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Originally posted by djnitride
I hope they are all in good health but it sounds like something tragic happened

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I hope Ben is okay.

Posted by Teezdalien on Jan-08-2015 08:18:

Sad day indeed... All of their plugs are great.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-08-2015 09:51:

I guess I won't be purchasing Alchemy after all.

Posted by TranceElevation on Jan-08-2015 13:14:

Fucking hell!!!!!

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 14:02:

Holy shit, I just woke up and started reading the KVR and GS threads. Paranoia and hysteria have reached epic levels since I went to bed last night.

Posted by djnitride on Jan-08-2015 15:29:

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Originally posted by cryophonik
Holy shit, I just woke up and started reading the KVR and GS threads. Paranoia and hysteria have reached epic levels since I went to bed last night.

Nothing like waking up in the morning to some fresh KVR threadage

But yeah, kinda hope if Alchemy 2.0 ever does surface we will get offered an upgrade path but I somehow doubt it.

Posted by stewart.m on Jan-08-2015 16:08:

cant beleave it its my go to synth i hope it still runs ok without any updates

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 16:17:

Well, I find this statement (from KVR) to be very interesting:

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Originally posted by Luftrum on KVR Well... I am not that worried anymore. hew:

I am sure that someone will be in touch soon, possibly today.

Luftrum is one of their sound designers, so that reads to me like he received some inside information today.

Posted by TranceElevation on Jan-08-2015 16:50:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Luftrum is one of their sound designers, so that reads to me like he received some inside information today.

Omg Cryo! Save me.

Have been depressed these last hours.

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 17:01:

Unfortunately, he followed up with this:

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Originally posted by Luftrum on KVR
I don't know anything... it's just my own assumption (or maybe not) it's just that Camel Audio would never leave their business behind like that without quickly passing information on to their customers about the reason. That wouldn't be logical and not how the Camel's do stuff.

The "or maybe not" part makes me still think that he knows something, but whatever, I guess we'll find out what's going on if/when Camel Audio decides to tell us.

Posted by tehlord on Jan-08-2015 17:19:

He'd not say anything that went against an NDA, so 'or maybe not' is probably a bit of a red herring.

I know a couple of their other main sound designers as well, and they know nothing.

Alchemy 2 WAS near complete though and apparently quite awesome.

Posted by evo8 on Jan-08-2015 17:27:

Sad news, im a big fan of Alchemy

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 17:44:

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Originally posted by tehlord
I know a couple of their other main sound designers as well, and they know nothing.

I know you do, so I was hoping you'd be able to provide some intel. Or, maybe their people have already gotten to you, too. Trust no one.

Posted by djnitride on Jan-08-2015 18:07:

Posted by tehlord on Jan-08-2015 18:14:

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Originally posted by cryophonik
I know you do, so I was hoping you'd be able to provide some intel. Or, maybe their people have already gotten to you, too. Trust no one.

Haha no.

I spoke to them about doing some presets last year, but it's very involved and not something that interested me enough to start with.

But if they say they know nothing, then they know nothing

Posted by Teezdalien on Jan-08-2015 18:52:

Ye Andy is a friend of mine and I can vouch that Alchemy 2 was almost there. Still I had no idea about this.

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Alchemy 2 WAS near complete though and apparently quite awesome.

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Ye Andy is a friend of mine and I can vouch that Alchemy 2 was almost there.

I don't really want to get into the speculation game (because I'm usually wrong), but it really does smell of buyout to me. I could see NI, for example, wanting in on Camel's success and, if Alchemy 2 is as awesome as all indications seemed, why wouldn't a bigger company want that in their product line? Maybe that's just wishful thinking, though. As a Camel Audio customer, it sucks to see them go, but if Ben and the boys made a pile of cash and Alchemy 2 will still see the light of day, that's probably the best outcome I could hope for at this point.

Posted by djnitride on Jan-08-2015 19:12:

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Originally posted by cryophonik
I don't really want to get into the speculation game (because I'm usually wrong), but it really does smell of buyout to me. I could see NI, for example, wanting in on Camel's success and, if Alchemy 2 is as awesome as all indications seemed, why wouldn't a bigger company want that in their product line? Maybe that's just wishful thinking, though. As a Camel Audio customer, it sucks to see them go, but if Ben and the boys made a pile of cash and Alchemy 2 will still see the light of day, that's probably the best outcome I could hope for at this point.

Yep, that would be a best case scenario indeed. Maybe NI is interested in Alchemy 2 as a successor to Absynth in their flagship product line? They have been slacking when it comes to synthesis lately...

Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-08-2015 19:20:

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Originally posted by cryophonik
I don't really want to get into the speculation game (because I'm usually wrong), but it really does smell of buyout to me. I could see NI, for example, wanting in on Camel's success and, if Alchemy 2 is as awesome as all indications seemed, why wouldn't a bigger company want that in their product line? Maybe that's just wishful thinking, though. As a Camel Audio customer, it sucks to see them go, but if Ben and the boys made a pile of cash and Alchemy 2 will still see the light of day, that's probably the best outcome I could hope for at this point.

This would be a win win scenario for all of us (who use Alchemy or NI product) -> as an existing Alchemy or NI user we would still have some form of discount for upgrade to ver2

Darek

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 19:25:

Maybe it's not so far-fetched. Here's what Urs from U-he just posted minutes ago.

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Originally posted by Urs (U-he) at KVR
If you put 1 and 1 together, I'm sure some big player got interested in the technology behind Alchemy 2.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-08-2015 19:28:

I managed to read twentysomething pages of the KVR thread until the conspiracy speculations got boring.

But yeah, buyout and NDA seems like the most likely scenario.

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-08-2015 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I managed to read twentysomething pages of the KVR thread until the conspiracy speculations got boring.

I wish I could find a way to sell some of those guys virtual tin foil hats. I could probably retire in a few days.

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