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to those of you who persistently turn down progressive

check out:

steve porter - nordica
steve porter - the return

these are two of the most brilliant soundscapes i've heard in months!
if u are not able to recognize the beauty of these tracks, there is something seriously wrong with u.. hard trance lover or not.

'nuff said

Yeah great tunes, although I wouldn't say the best in months.
That would be:

bedrock - emerald (filterheadz remix)
Pole folder - dust
filterheadz - protection
Grayara - one for the road
Nugen - Braaj (Lemon 8 Remix)
salome & ives - mystic roya
...
and a few hundreds more

No, seriously great tracks!
Nordica is featured on bedrock 3, check it out, brilliant compilation

No offence meant or flame intended, but maybe some of us don't want to get into progressive, I'm totally happy with listening to uplifting & Epic and Harder stuff as well as chilled & Hardstyle, I don't feel left out cos im not humping the progressive sounds, it's just something that doesn't appeal to me, it's slow, boring and irritates me, I don't see a journey in it cos i fall asleep to it, but that's just me, so don't flame me for it, I know some ppl like me, and I know some who like it, and as much as I respect it, I have no intentions on trying to get into something just because everyone else and their sheepdog are

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Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan No offence meant or flame intended, but maybe some of us don't want to get into progressive, I'm totally happy with listening to uplifting & Epic and Harder stuff as well as chilled & Hardstyle, I don't feel left out cos im not humping the progressive sounds, it's just something that doesn't appeal to me, it's slow, boring and irritates me, I don't see a journey in it cos i fall asleep to it, but that's just me, so don't flame me for it, I know some ppl like me, and I know some who like it, and as much as I respect it, I have no intentions on trying to get into something just because everyone else and their sheepdog are

u nailed it on the spot..progressive made me sleepy i am happy with the uplifting stuff too..prog not for me

Yeah, I Mean I could do the same and point to tunes by oliver klitzing, technoboy or kai tracid and how beautiful they are to me, but wont be to everyone, songs have meanings, and some dont get the same feeling, but I don't see the point in trying to force a sound onto someone who isn't interested by it, it's the choice of the listener

there have been too many progressive evangelism threads! damn lay off!


i mean i love prog and all but quit forcing it on people! what if prog becomes a new fad!!?!? are you people gonna like that then!?!? what's gonna happen after that!? we're all gonna start listening to IDM (which I have been already for years anyway) and that'll be the end of it!

It's because people on those boards who like prog, me included.
Do like trance also and were pure Tranceaddicts before they realized the amazing sound of progressive. I know this doesn't go with everyone but it does go with many people.
And without those people I for one wouldn't have realized the beaty of progressive at least not so soon. So if you don't want it, ignore it.

cheers,

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Originally posted by DJ Sunburn i mean i love prog and all but quit forcing it on people!

My Point exactly, it's freedom of choice, some go prog, some don't, some go a bit of both, we call those the cross... oops im getting caught away here but seriously u hate like salesmen yeah, cos they're like forcing their product onto u, and this is no different, just a different scenario, so the next person who says 'progressive is the future, you have to like it' can have it stuck back up their arses (unless it's Coup cos he'd like it )

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Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan My Point exactly, it's freedom of choice, some go prog, some don't, some go a bit of both, we call those the cross... oops im getting caught away here but seriously u hate like salesmen yeah, cos they're like forcing their product onto u, and this is no different, just a different scenario, so the next person who says 'progressive is the future, you have to like it' can have it stuck back up their arses (unless it's Coup cos he'd like it )

U'r right here mate, freedom of choice, well said!
I wanna add a little something to that ."Progressive is the future", yeah it's a weird thing to say but actually you can take it as something for trancelovers to be the future, there will be one day u gonna love it, that's why it's called "the future", although it's for every person different.
Now I read a lot on sites etc... and people claim breaks is the future and maybe elektro, I'm not that much into the genre but I can understand why it's the future, people who are sold out on prog search for new things, maybe breaks, maybe elektro, whatelse...
I heard gu 023 I think it's a very different change in the world of elektronica. I like the album but not that much as I love eg. Bedrock 3. NOT YET. So yeah I can completely understand why people call that the future. And if my time is there to really DIG breaks so it be.
But what's life all about, being happy with what u do, so the music you like, let it be top 50, rap, techno, michael Jackson, whatelse, if it makes u happy then it's fine.
So take the term "progresive is the future" as something to stimulate your personal consciousness. A goal to look out for new things when u are getting tired on the music u listen now.
As long as u doesn't have the need for other things then what u like right now, let it be how it is.

Cheerz

LET US LIVE!!!!!


each genre has brought out great tunes..im a diehard MULTIPLE GENRE ADDICT!


trance...

split second- flesh(trailertrash remix)
andain-summercalling
jewel-serve the ego(G&D remix)
umek(oliver lieb remix)
dat transa-nightstalker
matt darey -moody
drax_and_scott_mac-the_sun__de_progression_mix
oakenfold-southern sun (tiesto remix)
marco v- i feel u
joker_jam-traffic
warrior-drama
new order-someone like u (G&D remix)
blackeight-the_silence__marc_o_tool_rmx
Oliver Lieb featuring Klaus Kinski - Jesus ist da! (Club Mix



progressive
gabriel and dresden - lament
cuba computers - haunting me (chus and ceballos iberica vocal
Shmuel Flash - Chilling moments (Bedrock Vocal Mix)
The Scumfrog Vs David Bowie - Loving The Alien (Scumfrog Remix)
main_element_feat_kyla_-_take_me_down_(lemon_8_remix)
mv - from the underground (tribal fusion mix )
Ogenki Clinic - Kirei (James Holden Vs Main Element Mix)
Sapphirecut - Free Your Mind (Danny Tenaglia's Original Club Remix_...and that other twisty remix
Alaska Soul- Wonderful(Infusion Remix)
ashtrax-digital reason(ogenki clinics dark phantom remix)
ballroom - Passenger (Steve Porter Remix)
cass & slide - Opera (Beckett's Phantoms Only Mix)
flash-closing session
james holden-nothing mixes..



when it comes to it..there have been quality songs by both genres..ive been hammering anthony pappa for months and seaman for weeks....but there are plenty of trance tracks worth checking out..

Progressive has definitely made an impact on electronic musik..but trance will always be there and have its superstars

im anticipating matt darey;s remixes next year and more lieb remixes

Progressive is an excellent genre and its been fun exploring it for me..trance is always there

that list shows quality and quality....as both genres both produce their share of garbage.

THE FUTURE Lies in an individuals hands

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker "progresive is the future"

I was told by someone else (not here) DnB was the future.

*scratches his head*

What to believe?

Atlas - Compass Error (Tarrentella vs. Redanka remake) <--TUNE of the year...NOT Ligaya or Southern Sun

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Atlas - Compass Error (Tarrentella vs. Redanka remake) <--TUNE of the year...NOT Ligaya or Southern Sun

yepyep

Can we all stop thinking our favorite version is the hands down best? The epic trance lovers dont give a shit about the "more complex soundscapes of progressive", and the prog heads dont care about the "intense emmotion" of uplifting. Can we all stop crusading, and realize that one isn't necessarily better than the other, and that people have diffrent tastes?

Yea.. Atlas - Compas Error (T and R remix) POWNZZ!!!
Fell in love with it the first time I heard it.. Personally, I'm not a huge prog fan but I've been known to fall in love with many prog tunes. Such as

Arrakis - Aira Force (Lemon 8 remix)
Sleepfreaks - PHB (Director's cut)
Tarrantella - Karma (Praha mix)
Loudeast - Lights off <---- Not sure if this is progressive but it's an AWESOME chillout tune
Praha presents Xian - Kala Chant Part1
Sander Kleinberg - Venus and Mars
Natious - Thrust 1
Chris Fortier - Losing Wait

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Originally posted by Nadi Can we all stop thinking our favorite version is the hands down best? The epic trance lovers dont give a shit about the "more complex soundscapes of progressive", and the prog heads dont care about the "intense emmotion" of uplifting. Can we all stop crusading, and realize that one isn't necessarily better than the other, and that people have diffrent tastes?

My point exactly, Does it matter that I don't want to get into progressive ? No. Am I missing out on something ? Maybe so, But are prog fans missing out by not listening to harder stuff ? again maybe so, the whole thing is that I hate being preached of what to listen to, TV Companies control what we see, at least let us have freedom of choice with our music

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Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan My point exactly, Does it matter that I don't want to get into progressive ? No. Am I missing out on something ? Maybe so, But are prog fans missing out by not listening to harder stuff ? again maybe so, the whole thing is that I hate being preached of what to listen to, TV Companies control what we see, at least let us have freedom of choice with our music

no offence, but i think you depart from a wrong basis here. persistently sticking to one genre is purely having blinkers on. i have no problem with you only liking uplifting or hard trance, it's just that you don't want to take your time and explore the world of progressive. when you give an opinion about something, isn't it normal to examine all the aspects of the topic first? that's why IMO, you cannot just say that prog is boring after hearing one or two tracks. i've checked out (and i still do) lots of hard trance, but there are few tracks that really appeal to me. "freedom of choice", i agree, but at least try to open the door and explore the world around you!

cheers

Hmm I think this is wrong, as you have read my previous post in this thread.
As long you're satisfied with what u listen, and it completes your needs of being happy with the music, there's no way people have to explore other genres.
From the moment they aren't satisfied anymore with the music they listen nowadays, the exploring of other genres will follow automatically, but as long as you'r happy with the music u listen to, there's no reason why they should explore something else

I'm a progaddict, and I'm very openminded about this

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Originally posted by tor8024 no offence, but i think you depart from a wrong basis here. persistently sticking to one genre is purely having blinkers on. i have no problem with you only liking uplifting or hard trance, it's just that you don't want to take your time and explore the world of progressive. when you give an opinion about something, isn't it normal to examine all the aspects of the topic first? that's why IMO, you cannot just say that prog is boring after hearing one or two tracks. i've checked out (and i still do) lots of hard trance, but there are few tracks that really appeal to me. "freedom of choice", i agree, but at least try to open the door and explore the world around you! cheers

I have tried with progressive, I've listened to sasha, digweed, james holden, cass & slide and numerous others, and still it does absolutely nothing for me, so saying I'm going in with blinkers is a bit BS and imo typical of the attitude of a lot of progressive fans against ppl who think like me. I know theres a lot and most of the other ppl in this thread so far like DJ Sunburn & Tranceseeker to name two who don't see it that way, and I dont want you guys to think I'm slagging you off, cos I'm not, it's the others who cant see that I'm satisfied already with my diversity in styles.

If I have blinkers why do I listen to Hybrid, Chicane, WoW, Mark Moon, Michael Woods, Marco V, Talla 2xlc, Ferry, Armin, SHOKK, Flutlicht, Mauro Picotto, Technoboy, Push, Safri Duo, Rocco, Tuneboy, Scot Project, Dumonde, Yoji Biomehanika, Lee Haslam, BK, Nick Sentience, Mario Piu, Pulsedriver, Yahel, Kai Tracid, Thrillseekers, Pulser,Oliver Lieb, William orbit (not the remixes but like his album) Matt Darey, Hivver & Hammer, Cosmic Gate, Nu-Nrg, Airwave, Lost Witness, Pvd, etc etc

If they all sound the same to you then I think that you're the one with the problem, I've tried prog and it's boring IMO, and theres more like me, Progressive isn't a sound that everyone has to listen to, it isn't a genre that if people don't like that they should be called inferior or narrow minded. As well as those mentioned above I like a lot of other artists, but rarely are any of them progressive. If that makes me narrow minded or a lesser person, then take a spoon and eat my ass, cos I don't view myself as any less than the progressive lovers, or any more, we are all equal and diverse in our own ways and trying to force an idea onto us will only make us loathe you for it.

I don't in any way think that the ones I listen to are superior to others and I hate others who do, Noone is 'that' much more special ever

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Originally posted by LordCrimson I was told by someone else (not here) DnB was the future. *scratches his head* What to believe?

dnb is the past, ambient/chill-out is the future

eh no,

DnB is bigger now than it ever was in the past girlfriend. And i dont see where you are going with the ambient/chillout direction. I think the chillout stuff is stuck b/w a rock and a hard place. All i ever see are compilation after compilation of crap chill out tracks from years ago.

later
PSi

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Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan If they all sound the same to you then I think that you're the one with the problem

i never said these artist were all the same, because this is the first time you name them

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Progressive isn't a sound that everyone has to listen to, it isn't a genre that if people don't like that they should be called inferior or narrow minded.

first of all, progressive is not a particular sound. it stands for exploring and diving into new sounds, hence the name 'progressive', (r)evolution or even diversity if u like. and second, did i imply that you were inferior because you don't like prog? i don't think so, it's just that you previously said "i don't want to get into the genre". i have a problem with people who are reluctant to check out different stuff than they are used to (and not only concerning music styles). with regard to individual developpement i believe this is a necessity. but as it seems, you've already freed some time for prog nonetheless, so this changes my point of view towards you.

I like progressive as much as I like Trance, Techno, and House, I have an open mind when it comes to electronic dance music, So I like anything that I hear as long as its part of those genres, However, I been listening to more progressive then I thought I did since the music takes me on a euphoric journey just hearing it, I got more into progressive cause of listening to the Global DJ Broadcast with Markus Schulz spinning his sets, Cause of his DJ skills, I have goten into progressive a lot more, But it doesn't mean I dont listen to the other genres, It really depends on the tracks, If I hear a track thats either progressive, Trance, Techno, Or house and I start feeling it, I would then like it a lot.

Well Mikey I was trying to be nice about it mate, and in a way u described how I usuaully would, I just dont see why if we can't get into it we're not the same level of person, it could be said for anyone of any genre

I dunno, i've been listening to both for several years now and yes a lot of epic trance is predictable and cheesy and yes alot of progressive is slow and boring...I think the best trance tracks are the ones that manage to sit in between the two genres, using fresh current sounds, intricate rhythms and original ideas while still managing to be uplifting and emotive

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