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Roland System-8

what about this bad boy?



no idea on the price or what plugs come with, cant be arsed wading through the gearslutz thread

Big steaming pile of shit.

Looks like it's going to be $1500 for an 8 voice VA

The only reason people are considering it is because it comes pre-installed with Jupiter 8 and Juno 106 plugouts.

Only has one real LFO in System 8 mode, and there's no reason to have 8 voices in a VA these days.

But it has nice green lights that look mad sick in the dark 10/10 will buy.

Only piece of new Roland kit I'd buy is a Boutique re-release of the JP8000/8080. But they haven't bothered. So...fuck.

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Originally posted by tehlord Big steaming pile of shit. Looks like it's going to be $1500 for an 8 voice VA The only reason people are considering it is because it comes pre-installed with Jupiter 8 and Juno 106 plugouts. Only has one real LFO in System 8 mode, and there's no reason to have 8 voices in a VA these days.

$1500 for a controller? thats a bit cheeky, wouldnt even call it a VA, didnt actually realise it only had 8 voices that doesnt make sense

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Originally posted by evo8 $1500 for a controller? thats a bit cheeky, wouldnt even call it a VA, didnt actually realise it only had 8 voices that doesnt make sense

It works standalone too, but it's basically the same AIRA boards they used in the TB8, TB3, JU06 etc etc.

getting this definitely. been looking for the best place to pre-order.

watched to all the demos and think it sounds FANTASTIC. the sweetwater video in particular is great for musicality, and the raw oscs sounds and look great fun in the kosmic video. it's only 8 voices because it is modeled on hardware. nick batt said he was impressed with it.

looks nice and simple, but not too simple, for beginners to synthesis. no menu diving. high quality jupiter and juno recreations in one box, with all the extra stuff. can't go wrong.

looks much better than the JDXA aesthetically... non glossy surface, metal cheek ends, on/off/dimmable lights.

can't wait.

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Originally posted by rubez it's only 8 voices because it is modeled on hardware.

Nope

why else would they artificially limit themselves to 8 voices then?

this is ACB. i imagine they modeled the system-8 on an theoretical synth, and the jupiter and juno are modeled on the respective hardware. they gave themselves 8 voices, as that's all they'll ever need for plug outs.

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Originally posted by rubez why else would they artificially limit themselves to 8 voices then?

Profits.

The one thing they could do to redeem themselves is to have an update in the future where you can switch from 96k to 48k and double the polyphony.

dispatched. aw yeah.

i think this will be a very good long term synth.

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According to Roland the System-8 will be the main focus point for new ACB developments. With over 8 times the DSP power of the System-1, of which currently only a fraction is used, users can expect various expansions and enhancements in the future.

i don't think doubling the polyphony is out of the question, i think it is a very real possibility... at least giving full polyphony to two plug outs simultaneously in split mode is surely earmarked. they push these hardware products out the door with the firmware still bare bones, and beef it up as they go.

roland usually give their products updates down the line with substantial features. jdxi just got a meaty update. i think the system-8 will morph into a different beast in the coming couple of years.

not forgetting the juno 106 plug out in a few months, which i am looking forward to more than the jupiter 8 - and the new plug outs they have in the pipeline.

hope/expect to see the number of patch locations expanded in some way too, other than SD card. there will be new patches to download on their axial site.

lastly, i'd like to see the original jupiter/juno plug outs expanded upon (e.g. usable sub osc)

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Originally posted by tehlord Big steaming pile of shit.

Pretty sure that's Roland's new slogan.

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Originally posted by evo8 $1500 for a controller? thats a bit cheeky, wouldnt even call it a VA, didnt actually realise it only had 8 voices that doesnt make sense

why wouldn't it be considered a VA? you could argue it is the ultimate VA, accounting for the ACB tech, which goes far more in-depth with modelling analogue than other VA's do.

JP-8000 only had 8 voices too, a highly coveted VA. think the JP was the same price also at the time.

bagged mine for �1165... got �75 knicker off just for asking.

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Originally posted by rubez why wouldn't it be considered a VA? you could argue it is the ultimate VA, accounting for the ACB tech, which goes far more in-depth with modelling analogue than other VA's do. JP-8000 only had 8 voices too, a highly coveted VA. think the JP was the same price also at the time. bagged mine for �1165... got �75 knicker off just for asking.

hope its worth it, how many synths you got now?

just JDXI and pulse 2.

got rid of a few.

beefy short demo... sounds like that sideband filter snarling. good bass. kick by system-8 too, apparently.

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Originally posted by rubez JP-8000 only had 8 voices too, a highly coveted VA. think the JP was the same price also at the time.

Yes, 20 years ago when DSP was more expensive. Things have moved on a lot.

Also, the JP did something new with the supersaw and literally defined 10 years of dance music.

How do even make such a shit comparison?

The System 8 defines nothing, apart from cynical marketing to idiots that think more knobs = more better. It's an overpriced and underspecced piece of crap.

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Originally posted by tehlord It's an overpriced and underspecced piece of crap.

...with totally rad green lights.

such bitterness

might have to cancel my order if this synth doesn't look like it will change the face of dance music forever!

fantastic sounding jupiter and juno emulations, plus a meaty native engine all in one, with the ability to load yet more emulations, immediate controls, effects, arp, seq etc? yeah, i'll take that.

your are right, roland know there's a market for that and wisely came up with this synth... or should i spend �10k on the authentic real deal 30 year old analogue original?

stick to your ground breaking soft synths. i'll have some fun

Many people responding in this thread grew up on hardware and still use it happily alongside our software. These new Roland toys aren't designed for us. They're designed for you, so go ahead and enjoy it. But, don't expect us to tell you how wonderful these shit products are when you ask our opinion.

But that's the tried and tested rubez way - first ask for opinions, then shit on everyone who doesn't agree. Never ever budge from your position for any reason.

toys? you just show your snobbish ignorance.

even actual toys can't be used to fantastic effect in music by people who know how to use them (not saying that's me)

it's a hardware VA. no-one is claiming otherwise.

let me guess if it was made in a full metal case, had analogue voices, it would be a real synth? pretty sure in a blind test, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between this and the synths it is based on. idiot.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery But that's the tried and tested rubez way - first ask for opinions, then shit on everyone who doesn't agree. Never ever budge from your position for any reason.

And then sell 'the holy grail' 3 weeks later because it turned out those people who'd been using synths for 30 years were right all along.

He confuses experience for bitterness.

i think you confuse being a jaded cunt for experience

i kept my JDXI, and this has a lot of what made that so excellent. will be keeping it until the 106 plug out appears anyway

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Originally posted by rubez i think you confuse being a jaded cunt for experience i kept my JDXI, and this has a lot of what made that so excellent. will be keeping it until the 106 plug out appears anyway

Name calling?

Just shows what an immature dick you really are.

'I know, I'll pull out the jaded card because that's all I have'

Wasn't it you asking on KVR how to learn how to program synths a couple of months back?

A fool and his money are soon parted.

"name calling"... promptly proceeds to name calling

explain again the fault of the system-8 without sounding like a jaded arsehole. it doesn't define a generation or something? well, i doubt it, but it's best we actually wait and see what impact it has, since we can't see into the future...

overpriced, under specced? how so. the (8 voice) JP-8000 was the same price back when, without a LOT of the features. the other comparison would be a VA nord. again, similar price, but nowhere near the features or functionality of the S-8. the nord has more voices i believe, but i don't hear anyone complaining the jupiter-8 doesn't have enough voices. remember this is modeled on actual synths, it isn't some no holds barred digital poly.

system-8 is a solid, feature packed synth. it can sound digital or analogue. the reaction from experienced synth players who have actually gotten their mitts on it has been very positive.

it trades on past glories. and that's exactly what the people who buy it are looking for. if i'm a fool, what does that make the chumps shelling out 10 grand for a 30 year old synth?

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