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What is Hooj Choon's legacy as a label?

They re-released Cafe Del Mar and Greece 2000 but they also spawned a lot of records as well. I'm torn tbh.

Torn in what way?

Ah, we've missed this calibre of thread from Matt.

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Originally posted by Midlothian Torn in what way?

I'm not the one to rewrite history or take things out of context but yeah, I guess they contributed more to dance music if anything.

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Originally posted by 2techs I'm not the one to rewrite history or take things out of context but yeah, I guess they contributed more to dance music if anything.

More than what? This makes no linguistic sense.

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Originally posted by Lews More than what? This makes no linguistic sense.

it doesn't make sense because I'm not sure if they were hopping on the bandwagon for the hottest records at the time or if they should get credit for giving those releases more exposure? And do those particular releases leave any room for criticism on what was still a successful 13 year run?

Back in the vinyl days it was extremely common for labels to re-license tracks from smaller labels that just didn't have the pressing and distribution capacity to get the tunes into enough record shops to make them hits, or didn't have distribution in other countries.

Caf� Del Mar, for example, had never been released in the UK and was only available as an import from Germany before Hooj got hold of it. It was also 5 years old when they re-released it, so hardly the "hottest tune of the moment".

No legacy

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Back in the vinyl days it was extremely common for labels to re-license tracks from smaller labels that just didn't have the pressing and distribution capacity to get the tunes into enough record shops to make them hits, or didn't have distribution in other countries. Caf� Del Mar, for example, had never been released in the UK and was only available as an import from Germany before Hooj got hold of it. It was also 5 years old when they re-released it, so hardly the "hottest tune of the moment".

I'm not denying any of this. My point is that people tend to identify Cafe Del Mar as a Hooj record when it fact it originated from Germany and was produced by Germans. I guess Hooj played a major role in making Cafe Del Mar a bigger hit.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Back in the vinyl days it was extremely common for labels to re-license tracks from smaller labels that just didn't have the pressing and distribution capacity to get the tunes into enough record shops to make them hits, or didn't have distribution in other countries.

Yep. The 'other country' element, especially. Pre-iTunes/Beatport/Napster/Amazon/budget-airlines distribution of music was very different.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Caf� Del Mar, for example, had never been released in the UK and was only available as an import from Germany before Hooj got hold of it. It was also 5 years old when they re-released it, so hardly the "hottest tune of the moment".

It's also pretty clear looking at the 'appearances' statistics on Discogs that it wasn't an explosive hit until the 1997 Three 'N One Remix.

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Originally posted by 2techs I'm not denying any of this. My point is that people tend to identify Cafe Del Mar as a Hooj record when it fact it originated from Germany and was produced by Germans. I guess Hooj played a major role in making Cafe Del Mar a bigger hit.

1. Re-releasing rather than releasing does not mean that it is not a Hooj record.

2. I'd wager than if someone knows the track was released on Hooj, they'll know it was originally from Germany and produced by Germans.

3. They clearly played a major role in making it a huge hit.

4. I forgot how annoying your threads are.

In the interests of rescuing this thread from banality, here's an interview with label owner Red Jerry where he talks about this very subject:

https://www.skiddle.com/news/all/Re...j-Legacy/24563/

I saw him play that Hooj classics set in Manchester. From memory I remember him playing the following:

MRE - The Deep Edge
Trancesetters - Roaches (Peace Division Remix)
Killahurtz - West On 27th
Space Manoeuvres - Stage One
LSG - Shecan
Carl Craig - At Les
Lustral - Everytime (Nalin & Kane Remix)
Pete Lazonby - Sacred Cycles (Quivver Remix)
Sasha - Xpander
Energy 52 - Caf� Del Mar (Nalin & Kane Remix)

It was a rather enjoyable evening.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Back in the vinyl days it was extremely common for labels to re-license tracks from smaller labels that just didn't have the pressing and distribution capacity to get the tunes into enough record shops to make them hits, or didn't have distribution in other countries.

I imagine I'd have been fairly oblivious to the existence of, say, Red Parrot Recordings if it wasn't for having all that historical record label info so easily available via Discogs, to pick a relevant example (Space Manoeuvres).

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Trancesetters - Roaches (Peace Division Remix)

For me personally (listening to good music since 2000) some of the remixes produced for HOOJ's rereleases have always been an absolute highlight, this one here quoted from J's post being a perfect example.

And thanks for posting a link to that interview. Lovely stuff:

"FFrr made us rerelease and remix JX's 'Son of a Gun' when we were all bored shitless of it, so we had the Hooj man flogging a dying horse on the label."

https://www.discogs.com/JX-Son-Of-A.../release/148995

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It was a rather enjoyable evening.

I'm sure it was

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Originally posted by Midlothian I imagine I'd have been fairly oblivious to the existence of, say, Red Parrot Recordings if it wasn't for having all that historical record label info so easily available via Discogs, to pick a relevant example (Space Manoeuvres).

Red Parrot put out some great tunes:

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Originally posted by Midlothian "FFrr made us rerelease and remix JX's 'Son of a Gun' when we were all bored shitless of it, so we had the Hooj man flogging a dying horse on the label."

A Side: 'Son Of A Gun '95 (Jerry + Jake Flogging The Horse Mix)'

Amazing.

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Originally posted by Midlothian I imagine I'd have been fairly oblivious to the existence of, say, Red Parrot Recordings if it wasn't for having all that historical record label info so easily available via Discogs, to pick a relevant example (Space Manoeuvres).

Well exactly. In some ways, the role an A&R man like Red Jerry played was very similar to a tastemaker DJ's - find obscure tunes on small labels before they became hits and make them their own. I don't really think that deserves any less credit than the process of releasing previously unsigned material, although Hooj did their share of that as well.

I suspect if you look closely, Hooj probably signed very few tracks that were already smash hits. Only someone who was very close to the ground during the glory years and clearly remembers the timelines can really confirm that though.

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Originally posted by Lews I'm sure it was

To make things even better, we heard Breeder - The Chain twice that evening, the second time about 8bpm faster than the first. On a Funktion One system as well. I think my teeth might still be rattling from that kick drum.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J To make things even better, we heard Breeder - The Chain twice that evening, the second time about 8bpm faster than the first. On a Funktion One system as well. I think my teeth might still be rattling from that kick drum.

I remember. You don't need to keep reminding me

A Hooj appreciation thread on TA back in 2009:

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...=3#.XpKEnWxE00N

none. the prolekult sublabel was the one with anything resembling a legacy. hooj is just for old new labourite farts (but not too old anarchos) who haven't heard the kick in jammin unit - low density on a big system.

new prog trance fans don't like anything made before 2008, it's inherent to the genre.

Time for another round of TA's favourite game: mentally ill person or alt?!?

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Originally posted by junglist hooj is just for old new labourite farts (but not too old anarchos) who haven't heard the kick in jammin unit - low density on a big system.

I don't think comparing oldschool acid to prog is appropriate, as they're two very different genres.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred I don't think comparing oldschool acid to prog is appropriate, as they're two very different genres.

Sure, prog is just acid/techno with the grit and industrial feel taken out of it and made palatable for awkward lad in bucket hat NME fuckathon with Arabella at brighton uni circa 1994

Stand back people, we've got an edgelord here.

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