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Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-03-2003 19:54:

Where ur EQs at dooooooggggs?

When I DJ, I usually set my EQs at 0 and when the song isn't loud enough then I play around with the GAIN/TRIM.... how about you guys?

Many thanks,

Steve


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-03-2003 20:49:

i usually leave the mid at 0, and the bass and treble up just a bit, to give that extra thump in the bass, and twinkle in the highs.

i adjust if neccesary though.


Posted by Dmatrox on Jan-03-2003 21:19:

usually all 0, however some tracks i increase or decrease the High and Lows accordingly. Occasionally, i like to keep the highs a little to the + (plus) side so it sounds more crisp.


Posted by Special_K on Jan-03-2003 23:41:

you shouldnt have 1 standard that you have your eq's at. Every song is diffrent and therefore every song should be EQ'd diffrently. It just makes sense. Your EQ's are there for a reason, use them. And if you havnt started using EQ's while you are mixing, start.


Posted by mikefasssy on Jan-04-2003 02:05:

Generally at 0 but some tracks the middle up a bit, and some tracks bass up a bit, I dont usally adjust the treble because it annoys the hell out me. The sound of high treble i mean.


Posted by P`zazz on Jan-04-2003 04:27:

what can I say? my mixer has no eqs lackily I'm getting a new mixer that does cause my current one makes me wanna throught out the window

but the fact is that every song should be eqed differently


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-04-2003 05:10:

what mixer do you have?!?


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jan-04-2003 05:32:

i used to have a stanton sk5. ahaha

what a mixer.. 2 channel, no eq, no anything.

Well one thing it did have that my 275 doesnt is a x-fader curve.


Posted by Jellow on Jan-04-2003 08:21:

I allways have my low wide open,I like bass

And my speakers are a bit broken so there is less bass than it used to be.


Posted by CrackedLcd on Jan-04-2003 08:39:

Most songs I'm able to keep my eq's @ 0, but on certein songs I have to boost the bass or the treble...


Posted by Arsalan on Jan-04-2003 10:29:

quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
Generally at 0 but some tracks the middle up a bit, and some tracks bass up a bit, I dont usally adjust the treble because it annoys the hell out me. The sound of high treble i mean.


i have to agree with mike on this one, mid helps when song build ups ;d


Posted by P`zazz on Jan-04-2003 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
what mixer do you have?!?


Inter-M DM-602 --> check it out @ www.inter-m.com

got it back in the days when my knowledge of dj technology was limited so I blew some hard cash on it thinking it was good


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-04-2003 18:01:

wow, never seen one of those!

too bad you can't rip it open and make that stereo EQ apply to either one side of the cross fader or the other. you probably could if you had decent electronics knowledge.


Posted by P`zazz on Jan-04-2003 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
wow, never seen one of those!

too bad you can't rip it open and make that stereo EQ apply to either one side of the cross fader or the other. you probably could if you had decent electronics knowledge.


you can actualy do that? cool, can I find some info on the net that can atleast explain some things to me?


Posted by S-a-M-u-E-l on Jan-05-2003 00:19:

what is trim even used for?


Posted by P`zazz on Jan-05-2003 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by S-a-M-u-E-l
what is trim even used for?


trim/gain is used to increase the volume level of a single channel so as to much the volume level of the other channel, so it wont sound wierd when you change from a 'loud' song to a 'quiet' one


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jan-05-2003 00:45:

the mid at 0, the bass cranked up a tiny bit, and the treble cranked a tiny bit less than the bass. I try to aim to get that clear thumping bass, and the little bit of increased treble is the secret to doing this. None of that distorted shit for me


Posted by Arsalan on Jan-05-2003 09:58:

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
trim/gain is used to increase the volume level of a single channel so as to much the volume level of the other channel, so it wont sound wierd when you change from a 'loud' song to a 'quiet' one



i still don't know the dif between trim/gain, i guess i would if i had it on my mixer. I was in the record shop the mixer had it but i didn't really check because i was listening to records and didn't have time.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-05-2003 10:15:

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
you can actualy do that? cool, can I find some info on the net that can atleast explain some things to me?


uhm.. well, if you have no electronics experience, i would not advise it. theoretically, you'd just take the outputs of the EQ, and route them to the inputs of either side of the cross fader. then take the main outs and put them straight to the left and right mains where the output from the EQ hooked up.

i doubt in a mixer that old that it's all circuit boards, it might be possible. anyway.. i'm just talkin out my ass here, i don't even know if that's a doable thing.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-05-2003 10:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Arsalan
i still don't know the dif between trim/gain, i guess i would if i had it on my mixer. I was in the record shop the mixer had it but i didn't really check because i was listening to records and didn't have time.


trim and gain are different names for the same thing.


Posted by dJohn on Jan-07-2003 00:09:

I don't get how you epople mix with all of your EQs set at zero. All your doing when mixing is just sliding the fader over after the records are beatmatched. I'll bet you you start the cued record when the live record is almost over, when the last few measures are playing through too, not when the first breakdown is over.

EQs are a MUST when transitioning, especially when your actually mixing in between tracks. Notice how I differentiated the two terms, mixing and transitioning: when I mix, I don't wait till the record is almost over then start the new one...I usually cut between records after the first breakdown hits, during the bridge. That way you can squeeze in more tracks in less time. As for mixing, without EQs, the transition would sounmd like absolute shit...need to cut the high range, balance the mid, and fade and or cut the low to make it sound like one song, not one jumping into another, not to mention proper gain control and fluid crossfading with a taste of channel control.

It's always been a mystery to me how people spin with their EQs set at 12 o clock. My trebles are usually at 3, mid is at 2.5 and bass varies from 10 to 12 to 3. For me, having the EQs ALL at 12 makes the sound mushed and dirty...


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-07-2003 01:09:

well, where you have your EQs set has absolutely nothing to do with how long you mix for.

true, you need to work the EQs when mixing, but, the question of the thread is just in general, where do you leave them i think.

personally, i leave my mid at 0, and bass and treble up a bit, about 1 oclock.

there is no point to have ALL your eqs over 0, that just makes it sound louder, and can introduce distortion.

if yours are at 3, 2.5, and 3, then you may as well just bring them down to 0.5, 0 and, 0.5, and turn up your gain a bit, it should sound the same. then again, not all EQs are created equal, the better ones are more "transparent" meaning they don't sound harsh or boomy.

but, i do agree with you, the EQs usually must be worked when mixing.


Posted by Acid Circus on Jan-07-2003 14:03:

quote:
Originally posted by dJohn
It's always been a mystery to me how people spin with their EQs set at 12 o clock. My trebles are usually at 3, mid is at 2.5 and bass varies from 10 to 12 to 3. For me, having the EQs ALL at 12 makes the sound mushed and dirty...


And when you play in a loud club do you not find the sound distorts? Each track is different but speaking from personal experience most of the people I see with the EQ's up that high are trying to make it sound too loud and end up distorting all over the place. What style do you spin? That can also affect not only the EQ'ing but the mixing style.


Posted by Lanithium on Jan-07-2003 16:49:

hmmm i seem to be the only one here who opens right up on the mid.. heres my usual settings

low: 0
mid: 3
hi: 1.5

to me that sounds the best, with the mid at 0 like some of u guys it just sounds... dull... i dunno guess its just me

i play around a little bit when im in the mix, but thats roughly my settings


Posted by Superscope on Jan-07-2003 17:44:

For me, where my eq's lie is all down to the quality of the actual pressing of the track, and the level, and also what im doing with the track in the mix.

There is really no set eq preset you should be sticking too.

It also depends what sort of sound system you are using, how loud you are playing, and if you are recording ure eq'ing has the be near on perfect and consistent all the way through.

No point handing a demo to a club promoter that has maybe 15 shithot tracks that are mixed with precision, only for him/her to go from the 3rd track to the fourth track and get blown away because they had to turn the volume up for the last track to hear it well, unlike this one which was already distorting!

Using the eq's dynamically,and not using a certain eq standard is just as important as droppin that needle (gently!) onto the record!


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