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Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-23-2003 06:11:

KarateKid Census shows 905 home to more immigrants

wells.. i'm sure a lotta you saw this front page article in the star today. just another one of the realities around our city. and much of the reason why TOTA is so diverse in nature too .. (something that we can all be proud of).

article:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=969483202845

Does this mean we're a more international city than Montreal then.. ?? hrmmzz.. hehe .. (no flame intended)

oh and for those who still don't understand why Viva has a lotta Asians, here's another article:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=969483202845


Posted by fastmp3 on Jan-23-2003 07:16:

Montreal for sure is a multi-ethnical city , there's a lot of diversity (and no forced assmilation hehe) but i can't tell if it's more or less comparing to toronto


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-23-2003 07:23:

I'm doing an assignment for one of my courses and we have to use Census Tract Data. It's kind've interesting (better than the BS we had to do last semester...) but yeah, it's cool how they group ppl in a certain area and how it all falls together.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-23-2003 16:22:

Fuck that ... the mainlanders are invading Scarb and Chinatown. That's why all the Scarb. Massive's are moving up north.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-23-2003 18:24:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL_D3
Fuck that ... the mainlanders are invading Scarb and Chinatown. That's why all the Scarb. Massive's are moving up north.


yea they're mostly in Scar now..Chinatown downtown is still more Viettown than anything else ..

and as for Markham and Richmond Hill .. that's where all the HK are now cuz they used to be in Scarb but now have tried to move onto better things and were uprooted by the mainlanders and a lotta south Asians too ..


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-23-2003 18:28:

Can't stand the mainlanders at all.

Oh fuck ... !!! And my parents are beggin' me to visit China before I get too old ... God damn it, if I went ... they would think I'm American !!!


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-23-2003 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Fuck that ... the mainlanders are invading Scarb and Chinatown. That's why all the Scarb. Massive's are moving up north.


What I mean by this ... there are millions expected to arrive within' the next few yrs.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-23-2003 18:33:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL_D3
Can't stand the mainlanders at all.

Oh fuck ... !!! And my parents are beggin' me to visit China before I get too old ... God damn it, if I went ... they would think I'm American !!!


haha that's what they say to me too ..

i remember when my dad went a couple of years back .. he had to get like 5 innoculations cuz of all the diseases there or something. insane...


Posted by malek on Jan-23-2003 18:57:

1 in 5 canadian wasn't born in Canada!

in Quebec the 4 biggest linguistic groups are in ordre,

French Speaking,
English Speaking,
Italian speaking,
Arabic speaking.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-23-2003 20:08:

Time to share the Mainland stories ....
This one time I was in my friends car and were heading north on midland just past finch. We were only going 60km and we had to pass a stopped bus ... as we passed the bus, (green light for us) this mainland chick walk out of nowhere , in front of the bus and my buddy slamms on the breaks and still we put that bitch on her ass. ARGH !!!!!!

While my sister was pregant, she was shopping at the supermarket ... all these mainland chicks rushing and pushing and almost knocked my sister on her ass.

This is why I can't stand MAINLANDERS .... they are just fucked up, rude and annoying !!! Ya not in China anymore ... it's time to change and get use to things in Cananda. It' s cool that your from the mainland but, it's not cool when you think you can do the same shit as back home.


Posted by Wurm on Jan-23-2003 20:33:

How do you tell a mainlander right off the bat?

Is it facial features, or something about style?

Help out someone who's so Anglo, his mum's English.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-23-2003 21:21:

KarateKid

most mainlanders speak Mandarin (not to be confused with Taiwanese ppl who also speak Mandarin) whereas most HK ppl ie. the ones at Viva, speak Cantonese ..

a lotta mainlanders also look like factory workers and a lot less poshy stylish like their HK counterparts.. (no offense here to anyone, just generalizing).


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-23-2003 21:24:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
1 in 5 canadian wasn't born in Canada!

in Quebec the 4 biggest linguistic groups are in ordre,

French Speaking,
English Speaking,
Italian speaking,
Arabic speaking.


in the GTA, it's something like:

English Speaking,
MAndarin/Cantonese Speaking,
Punjabi/Urdu Speaking,
Filipino (Tagalog) Speaking,
etc..

(this is according to that census report article .. )


Posted by jon jon on Jan-23-2003 22:18:

Montreal is diverse, agreed. But there is no way in fuck more diverse than Toronto.

The GTA is becoming one of the most diverse cities in the world (per capita of course)


Posted by trancearmada on Jan-23-2003 23:41:

Toronto is the only city in the world that has a population that speaks in 189 different languages.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-24-2003 00:33:

KarateKid

wells i know we've had that debate about TOTA's having multinational flags under their avatars even though the majority of us are Canadian citizens..

i just found this quote from the offshoot link to be rather interesting..
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...l=1043146939920

"What can be said with authority is that people who report homegrown ethnicity tend to be multigenerational Canadians of predominantly British or French ancestral origins. The 2001 census added a new question about the birthplace of parents, and found that 55 per cent of people whose parents were born in Canada also claimed at least partial Canadian ethnicity. By contrast, only four per cent of people with both parents born outside the country reported Canadian.

Other studies of the 1996 census have suggested visible minorities tend not to list their ethnicity as Canadian.

In the words of Bruce Abe [of Japanese ancestry]: "Until I open my mouth and say, 'I am Canadian,' people's first impressions are that you're Asian."


so basically , what i'm wondering if this.. if u consider yourself to be Italian, Polish, Serbian, Chinese, Indian, etc.. how many generations down your line would it take until you think your children's children's children, etc.. consider themselves as "Canadian".. ?


Posted by malek on Jan-24-2003 00:41:

no way toronto is more diverse or less diverse than Montreal. Both have the same minorities, in more or less of importance. The greater Montreal area is something like 3.5 Millions of people, lots lots of different people and mentalities and I love it if I remember well, in high school (about 800 students) there was like about 55-60 different languages spoken! you gotta love the diversity


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-24-2003 00:51:

KarateKid

wells i know that Montreal is a really ethnically diverse city.. but at the rate of the immigrant influx into TO (compared to that of the rest of Canada), eventually no one here will be able to speak English in like 5 years ..

so for the seperatists of Quebec, they need not worry about losing their French language over English since all the immigrants will uproot English for them !


Posted by cap on Jan-24-2003 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
eventually no one here will be able to speak English in like 5 years ..




You mean, no one here working at McDonalds will speak English in 5 years


English will always the be the language that gets you furthest in life !


Posted by Wurm on Jan-24-2003 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
no way toronto is more diverse or less diverse than Montreal. Both have the same minorities, in more or less of importance. The greater Montreal area is something like 3.5 Millions of people, lots lots of different people and mentalities and I love it if I remember well, in high school (about 800 students) there was like about 55-60 different languages spoken! you gotta love the diversity


Your need to compare yourself to Toronto just underlines your insecurities.


Posted by Wurm on Jan-24-2003 01:49:

I don't want to start another Montreal-Toronto quibble, but let's just accept that they're different; elles ne sont pas pareilles. Pas meme un tout-p'tit peu.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-24-2003 02:45:

KarateKid

hehe yepps .. no need for a quarel. Here's another interesting article..

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=969483202845

"The census shows that almost all Canada's immigrants in the 1990s � some 94 per cent � settled down in cities.

Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal attracted nearly three-quarters of all immigrants. Toronto became home to 43 per cent of immigrants, while 18 per cent went to Vancouver and 12 per cent to Montreal.

Twenty-four other cities were also listed, including Ottawa-Hull and Calgary with approximately 4 per cent of newcomers each, and Edmonton with 2.5 per cent. Hamilton attracted almost 2 per cent of immigrants.

"If there were any doubts before, clearly this information just confirms that the lion's share of immigrants are going to three centres,'' the immigration official said. "


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Jan-24-2003 03:01:

hahahaha... all this mainland talk is hilarious.... i didn't think anyone would actually pipe up and say something about it, hahahaha...

my dad went to china this christmas... they're really cleaning up over there... soon they'll all just be regualar HK fobs, =P.


Posted by malek on Jan-24-2003 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Wurm
Your need to compare yourself to Toronto just underlines your insecurities.



dude you must be an e-tard, what insecurity? where did I say montreal is better? Montreal and Toronto are two big cities, very different but also very similar due to a very diverse populace.


Posted by Durafei on Jan-24-2003 04:40:

As far as I know it's a bit easier to immigrate to Quebec, they have easier immigration policies.. That's why a lot of people go there, even though economically it's a bit weaker than Ontario.


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