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Posted by skywarp on May-18-2001 23:10:

Okay, here's a little .cue tutorial since a lot of people seem to be confused on how to make them ...

code:
FILE 604.wav WAVE TRACK 01 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 TRACK 02 AUDIO INDEX 01 05:56:36 TRACK 03 AUDIO INDEX 01 11:15:04 TRACK 04 AUDIO INDEX 01 17:34:15 TRACK 05 AUDIO INDEX 01 23:27:01 TRACK 06 AUDIO INDEX 01 30:17:62 TRACK 07 AUDIO INDEX 01 37:53:02 TRACK 08 AUDIO INDEX 01 41:39:09 TRACK 09 AUDIO INDEX 01 48:05:60 TRACK 10 AUDIO INDEX 01 54:53:18 TRACK 11 AUDIO INDEX 01 60:59:67


Okay, the first line

FILE filename.wav WAVE

contains the file name relative to the .cue file - if you have it in the same directory just go filename.wav otherwise type the complete path ie. c:\mymusic\mix\filename.wav

All the other lines contain the cue points where you want to have a track marker. The timecode is in format

minute:second:frame

keep in mind that there is 75 frames on a CD (i think) so 74 is the highest value you can use (00 - 74). A good way to find the cue points is to load the mix in CoolEdit and then go
View -> Display Time Format -> Compact Disc
Then just listen to the mix and copy the timecode values in your .cue file. As easy as that.

peace


Posted by goodnet on May-19-2001 00:15:

I know all about cue files, but I do occasionally run into people who dont know a thing about them. (its frightening when i find out about people who burn an 80 minute track cause they didn't know about cue files!!)

I've been thinking of making a cue tutorial, with pictures and stuff. Maybe you could do that, since you've already got a headstart on the written part.


Posted by JM on May-19-2001 06:04:

haha

quote:
Originally posted by goodnet
I know all about cue files, but I do occasionally run into people who dont know a thing about them. (its frightening when i find out about people who burn an 80 minute track cause they didn't know about cue files!!)

I've been thinking of making a cue tutorial, with pictures and stuff. Maybe you could do that, since you've already got a headstart on the written part.



I used to burn 70 min livesets...b4 i knew about cue files.....it sucked and cue files are easy....(now they are)

>JM<


Posted by Tripsy on May-24-2001 01:41:

Correction, there are actually 80 frames per second on a cd. I found this out the hard way when I was compiling my DJ Tiesto live@Gatecrasher 12-16-00 mix... which was eventually stolen by someone on this board who I won't name. But anyways, I kept on getting errors with every track that had 80 for the frame #, but once I changed it 79, it was fine again. So whoever downloaded the "bad" cuefiles for that Tiesto set from www.dancecues.cjb.net, change the lines with 80 for the frame number to 79, and your cue sheet will work alright again... oh yeah, and BOLLOCKS to you whoever stole my credit for those cue sheets.

Tripsy


Posted by Sarcoman on Jul-31-2002 21:52:

I have to admit, Im one of those morons that knows nothing about .cue sheets

*sarcoman hides head in shame*

What I gather from the previous posts, is that you use a cue sheet to cut a long set into smaller segments, for playback on CDRs. My question is, do .cue sheets with with all CDR software? and if so, what program to I use to write the .cue sheet, and how do I load it into Adaptec CD Creator 4?

Thanks for any insight


Posted by Mikrop on Aug-01-2002 15:08:

Not sure if cue files work in all progs (I don't think so), but I know that some progs can't handle types of cue files. Like Nero can't handle cue files for mp3 but CDRwin can.


Posted by drinkyourmilk on Aug-01-2002 16:18:

How do you find the frame # if I dont have a seperate program to do it.. Couldn't I just leave it at 0 ?


Posted by Mikrop on Aug-02-2002 06:51:

You could leave it at 0. But this wouldn't allow the start of the track to be exactly on the beat. Not important really, but to some it makes a difference.


Posted by Matrix on Aug-03-2002 10:02:

I hate to be a thread crapper, but you are missing some important info in your cue. If you want to create a perfect CD, use exact audio copy to create one that has NO pops, spacing, or any distinguishible features between tracks (so it sounds EXACTLY like the original set). EAC is very picky about cue files, but the quality of the CD it produces is worth it. It is freeware and can be found through searching any major search engine.

code:
PERFORMER "CD Artist" TITLE "CD Title" FILE "c:\directory\filename.wav" WAVE TRACK 01 AUDIO TITLE "" PERFORMER "" INDEX 01 00:00:00 TRACK 02 AUDIO TITLE "" PERFORMER "" INDEX 00 07:42:07 INDEX 01 07:44:07 TRACK 03 AUDIO TITLE "" PERFORMER "" INDEX 00 11:27:74 INDEX 01 11:29:74 etc. . .

The TRACK title and performer fields are purely optional, but if you rip the cd at a later date, it will save you from editing the id3 tags.

NOTE: the first 3 lines MUST be: Performer, Title, then File.

Note the exact 2.000 second space between index 0 and index 1. this is what allows the CD player to continue to play while changing tracks. (track 1 does not require an index 0)


Posted by Cobalt on Aug-04-2002 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Sarcoman
I have to admit, Im one of those morons that knows nothing about .cue sheets

*sarcoman hides head in shame*

What I gather from the previous posts, is that you use a cue sheet to cut a long set into smaller segments, for playback on CDRs. My question is, do .cue sheets with with all CDR software? and if so, what program to I use to write the .cue sheet, and how do I load it into Adaptec CD Creator 4?

Thanks for any insight


Same here. I don't have a clue about cue sheets and it's a real pain. I actually burn livesets as a single track because I don't know otherwise.


PLEASE explain how I use them! I have Nero and Adaptec.


Posted by Cobalt on Aug-04-2002 03:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt


Same here. I don't have a clue about cue sheets and it's a real pain. I actually burn livesets as a single track because I don't know otherwise.


PLEASE explain how I use them! I have Nero and Adaptec.


Oh, hey! I've answered my own question by looking around a bit!

Adaptec cannot read .cue files, but Nero can:

quote:
Originally posted by Warez Guy
Nero reads cue files, go to file then burn image, then select the cue file and you're done.


Thanks!


Posted by inatrance on Sep-10-2002 16:16:

nnero always shits up and takes forever to load, and then freezes...


Posted by fieroavian on Sep-11-2002 07:00:

for the FILE command, you can select from WAVE, MP3, AIFF, BINARY, MOTOROLA. it's case sensitive, and it must be in 44.1khz 16-bit stereo format.

more examples...

quote:
audio CD using multiple audio files (one track per file) with no pauses between tracks

FILE C:\TRACK1.WAV WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE C:\TRACK2.WAV WAVE
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE C:\TRACK3.WAV WAVE
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE C:\TRACK4.WAV WAVE
TRACK 04 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00


The files will be recorded continuously with no gaps between them. However, if any file is not an exact multiple of the CDROM sector size (2352 bytes), then the last sector will be automatically padded with zeros. This could result in a gap between tracks with a maximum length of 1/75th second.



quote:
audio CD using multiple audio files (multiple tracks per file) with no pauses between tracks

FILE C:\TRACK1.WAV WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 01 05:50:65
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 01 09:47:50
TRACK 04 AUDIO
INDEX 01 15:12:53
FILE C:\TRACK2.WAV WAVE
TRACK 05 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
INDEX 01 02:31:40
TRACK 07 AUDIO
INDEX 01 06:56:13
TRACK 08 AUDIO
INDEX 01 10:06:25


Posted by Technaut on Sep-15-2002 13:58:

begging..

hmm Im shite @ .cue files too, JMF Tracid tried to help me on MSN one day and it did work with Nero and it was an MP3 file.

I still cant remember what i done lol, so if some1 could type up a tute for Nero from scratch then that would be super mint.


Posted by Itchy on Sep-16-2002 07:50:

all i do is download the cue file , cos i couldnt be assed making it myself, and select 'burn image' in nero, select the cue file and away you go.......


Posted by Fevzi on Sep-17-2002 15:02:

how to cut with cue files?

ok guys

i have been using cue files for burning audio cds,my question is, is there a program to cut into pieces ,mp3 files of a long lets say 76 minutes album using its cue sheet?


Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-05-2002 09:21:

ok... i'm retarded when it comes to cue sheets and burning

so i record my demo, i want to burn it and track it without any spaces so it's exactly like the recording

now, treat me like i know nothing (cause i don't know a whole lot) and explain to me what to do (like what burning prog to use, etc.)

thnks


Posted by imprt2nr on Oct-06-2002 19:36:

im also very stupid when it comes to .cue files, heck i dont even know how to use them. i have adaptec cd creator and was wondering if they would even work with this program, and if not what other programs and are they for free/dl? if you could explain every thing in great detail that would be awesome cause i read the whole thread and im still confused. thanks for your help


Posted by fathomless1 on Mar-29-2003 00:14:

what i dont understand is what about sets that are like 120 minutes long, obviously that wont fit on one cd, so how do i do this?


Posted by JM on Mar-30-2003 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by fathomless1
what i dont understand is what about sets that are like 120 minutes long, obviously that wont fit on one cd, so how do i do this?


you will have to split the set up into parts, for example 2 x 60 mins for two cd's or if you just want one cd, then you can cut the 120 min set into one 80 min set to fit onto a cd-r.

there are plenty of programs that will cut mp3's such as mp3splitter (might not work with files larger than 100 megs, at least it didnt when i last used it 2 yrs ago)

even HJ Split will split your large file into an 80 min, you just have to enter the few settings.

as for the cue file, just delete the times that exceed the length of the modified (cut) file. then burn as usual.

if you want to cut out the middle part of the set, well then you'll have to find out the correct cue times and modify the cue file yourself before you burn.

i hope this made sense. any questions, holla at me

>JM<


Posted by DarkFall01 on Apr-01-2003 00:46:

Good threat guys, just one question, how about like 88min live sets, I've acutally found cue sheets for these and dont know how to burn them, Nero always crashes on me when loading the song, which program should I use to burn them?

Thx

DarkFall01


Posted by Resnick on Apr-01-2003 18:02:

How can I use the cue file when i have a live set (mp3) and i want to put it on my minidisc. can anyone help me out?


Posted by Disney on Apr-01-2003 18:06:

Re: how to cut with cue files?

quote:
Originally posted by Fevzi
ok guys

i have been using cue files for burning audio cds,my question is, is there a program to cut into pieces ,mp3 files of a long lets say 76 minutes album using its cue sheet?


Yes there is!

It's called musicutter 0.4

Select an mp3 file --> Load the cue sheet --> Next you hit the button "Split now" and it cut's up the original mp3 file in to tracks specified in the cue (don't worry the original file stays intact!).

Now you can just burn the single tracks. Don't forget in Nero to set the pause between tracks at 0 seconds and use disc-at-once to burn the cd.


Posted by StaticFive on Apr-12-2003 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by JM
you will have to split the set up into parts, for example 2 x 60 mins for two cd's or if you just want one cd, then you can cut the 120 min set into one 80 min set to fit onto a cd-r.

there are plenty of programs that will cut mp3's such as mp3splitter (might not work with files larger than 100 megs, at least it didnt when i last used it 2 yrs ago)

even HJ Split will split your large file into an 80 min, you just have to enter the few settings.

as for the cue file, just delete the times that exceed the length of the modified (cut) file. then burn as usual.

if you want to cut out the middle part of the set, well then you'll have to find out the correct cue times and modify the cue file yourself before you burn.

i hope this made sense. any questions, holla at me

>JM<


Ouch!! Time Consumer!!

If you get nero, just set the end index anywhere up to 79 mins (to allow for cd overhead and TOC) then set your start index on the second cd at 79 minutes and work from there.

I don't know if you can set an end index in a cue file, but if you can, it would work similar to the above.


Posted by mantisnl on Apr-15-2003 15:50:

can someone please tell me how 2 do it in nero?
i have made a cue file but it wont open here either! nero crahes all the time


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