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Posted by tranceaholic on Mar-20-2003 17:03:

Is it Worth it?

well here is how i view things..now that thw war have started..

The US will not be able to get Sadam..

They will bomb iraq shitless..

Lots of taxpayers money will be lost on this war

Lots of lives will be lost american and iraqi

economic depression

Forign relations destroyed

IT will be come the most hated country ever..

Is this all worth it?


Posted by King_Mack on Mar-20-2003 17:56:

Rasta

wont the war cost american tax payers like 5 grand over ten years EACH..or something to that extent. It was a pretty high figure, I heard this on CNN. The figure might be a bit off.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Mar-20-2003 18:20:

The stock indexes are rising and the oil prices are dropping. Seems this war did manage to boost the economy, at least in the short run.


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 18:23:

if it prevents another 9.11...then yes its worth it for me.....i refuse to run for my life again in the streets of Manhattan, i refuse to lose any more friends in towers, so its worth it for me....


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Mar-20-2003 18:34:

I will love to see what you guys post when you are proven wrong. I was against this war for a long time, but now, I know that the United States is doing the right thing.


Posted by JohnSmith on Mar-20-2003 18:43:

I'm really excited by George Bush's latest reason for bombing Iraq: he's running out of patience. And so am I! For some time now I've been really p*ssed off with Mr Johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street. Well, him and Mr Patel, who runs the health food shop. They both give me queer looks, and I'm sure Mr Johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far I haven't been able to discover what. I've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden. That's how devious he is. As for Mr Patel, don't ask me how I know, I just know - from very good sources - that he is, in reality, a Mass Murderer. I have leafleted the street telling them that if we don't act first, he'll pick us off one by one. Some of my neighbours say, if I've got proof, why don't I go to the police? But that's simply ridiculous. The police will say that they need evidence of a crime with which to charge my neighbours. They'll come up with endless red tape and quibbling about the rights and wrongs of a pre-emptive strike and all the while Mr Johnson will be finalising his plans to do terrible things to me, while Mr Patel will be secretly murdering people. Since I'm the only one in the street with a decent range of automatic firearms, I reckon it's up to me to keep the peace. But until recently that's been a little difficult. Now, however, George W. Bush has made it clear that all I need to do is run out of patience, and then I can wade in and do whatever I want! And let's face it, Mr Bush's carefully thought-out policy towards Iraq is the only way to bring about international peace and security. The one certain way to stop Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers targeting the US or the UK is to bomb a few Muslim countries that have never threatened us. That's why I want to blow up Mr Johnson's garage and kill his wife and children. Strike first! That'll teach him a lesson. Then he'll leave us in peace and stop peering at me in that totally unacceptable way. Mr Bush makes it clear that all he needs to know before bombing Iraq is that Saddam is a really nasty man and that he has weapons of mass destruction - even if no one can find them. I'm certain I've just as much justification for killing Mr Johnson's wife and children as Mr Bush has for bombing Iraq. Mr Bush's long-term aim is to make the world a safer place by eliminating 'rogue states' and 'terrorism'. It's such a clever long-term aim because how can you ever know when you've achieved it? How will Mr Bush know when he's wiped out all terrorists? When every single terrorist is dead? But then a terrorist is only a terrorist once he's committed an act of terror. What about would-be terrorists? These are the ones you really want to eliminate, since most of the known terrorists, being suicide bombers, have already eliminated themselves. Perhaps Mr Bush needs to wipe out everyone who could possibly be a future terrorist? Maybe he can't be sure he's achieved his objective until every Muslim fundamentalist is dead? But then some moderate Muslims might convert to fundamentalism. Maybe the only really safe thing to do would be for Mr Bush to eliminate all Muslims? It's the same in my street. Mr Johnson and Mr Patel are just the tip of the iceberg. There are dozens of other people in the street who I don't like and who - quite frankly - look at me in odd ways. No one will be really safe until I've wiped them all out. My wife says I might be going too far but I tell her I'm simply using the same logic as the President of the United States. That shuts her up. Like Mr Bush, I've run out of patience, and if that's a good enough reason for the President, it's good enough for me. I'm going to give the whole street two weeks - no, 10 days - to come out in the open and hand over all aliens and interplanetary hijackers, galactic outlaws and interstellar terrorist masterminds, and if they don't hand them over nicely and say 'Thank you', I'm going to bomb the entire street to kingdom come. It's just as sane as what George W. Bush is proposing - and, in contrast to what he's intending, my policy will destroy only one street.


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I'm really excited by George Bush's latest reason for bombing Iraq: he's running out of patience. And so am I! For some time now I've been really p*ssed off with Mr Johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street. Well, him and Mr Patel, who runs the health food shop. They both give me queer looks, and I'm sure Mr Johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far I haven't been able to discover what. I've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden. That's how devious he is. As for Mr Patel, don't ask me how I know, I just know - from very good sources - that he is, in reality, a Mass Murderer. I have leafleted the street telling them that if we don't act first, he'll pick us off one by one. Some of my neighbours say, if I've got proof, why don't I go to the police? But that's simply ridiculous. The police will say that they need evidence of a crime with which to charge my neighbours. They'll come up with endless red tape and quibbling about the rights and wrongs of a pre-emptive strike and all the while Mr Johnson will be finalising his plans to do terrible things to me, while Mr Patel will be secretly murdering people. Since I'm the only one in the street with a decent range of automatic firearms, I reckon it's up to me to keep the peace. But until recently that's been a little difficult. Now, however, George W. Bush has made it clear that all I need to do is run out of patience, and then I can wade in and do whatever I want! And let's face it, Mr Bush's carefully thought-out policy towards Iraq is the only way to bring about international peace and security. The one certain way to stop Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers targeting the US or the UK is to bomb a few Muslim countries that have never threatened us. That's why I want to blow up Mr Johnson's garage and kill his wife and children. Strike first! That'll teach him a lesson. Then he'll leave us in peace and stop peering at me in that totally unacceptable way. Mr Bush makes it clear that all he needs to know before bombing Iraq is that Saddam is a really nasty man and that he has weapons of mass destruction - even if no one can find them. I'm certain I've just as much justification for killing Mr Johnson's wife and children as Mr Bush has for bombing Iraq. Mr Bush's long-term aim is to make the world a safer place by eliminating 'rogue states' and 'terrorism'. It's such a clever long-term aim because how can you ever know when you've achieved it? How will Mr Bush know when he's wiped out all terrorists? When every single terrorist is dead? But then a terrorist is only a terrorist once he's committed an act of terror. What about would-be terrorists? These are the ones you really want to eliminate, since most of the known terrorists, being suicide bombers, have already eliminated themselves. Perhaps Mr Bush needs to wipe out everyone who could possibly be a future terrorist? Maybe he can't be sure he's achieved his objective until every Muslim fundamentalist is dead? But then some moderate Muslims might convert to fundamentalism. Maybe the only really safe thing to do would be for Mr Bush to eliminate all Muslims? It's the same in my street. Mr Johnson and Mr Patel are just the tip of the iceberg. There are dozens of other people in the street who I don't like and who - quite frankly - look at me in odd ways. No one will be really safe until I've wiped them all out. My wife says I might be going too far but I tell her I'm simply using the same logic as the President of the United States. That shuts her up. Like Mr Bush, I've run out of patience, and if that's a good enough reason for the President, it's good enough for me. I'm going to give the whole street two weeks - no, 10 days - to come out in the open and hand over all aliens and interplanetary hijackers, galactic outlaws and interstellar terrorist masterminds, and if they don't hand them over nicely and say 'Thank you', I'm going to bomb the entire street to kingdom come. It's just as sane as what George W. Bush is proposing - and, in contrast to what he's intending, my policy will destroy only one street.



come on dude use paragraphs...


Posted by Renegade on Mar-20-2003 19:18:

JohnSmith:

You're my new hero.

tranceaholic:

The question in the topic sums up my stance on this issue perfectly. To all of you who are still licking their lips at the prospect of seeing the bombs fly, make sure you keep an eye on this over the coming weeks:

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm

Then justify it.


Posted by Renegade on Mar-20-2003 19:18:

Sorry, double post.


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Mar-20-2003 19:38:

I should make a web-site that shows the number of Iraqi's dead because of Saddam.


Posted by JohnSmith on Mar-20-2003 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
JohnSmith:

You're my new hero.


actually, it's not me, that was A letter to the London Observer from Terry Jones (Yes, of Monty Python fame). Sunday January 26, 2003

nice link too!


Posted by tranceaholic on Mar-20-2003 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
if it prevents another 9.11...then yes its worth it for me.....i refuse to run for my life again in the streets of Manhattan, i refuse to lose any more friends in towers, so its worth it for me....


well do u think that taking out sadam will have any effect on AL Qaueda..sorry to disapoint u but nope..maybe he backed em up with support or even money but i am sure they can do without his support and money..infact the war on iraq is beneficial to Osama..why? the eyes are not as much on him anymore..US risking more lives of thier own people..hatred of the other countires to the US..its like we r rewarding ben laden for 9/11...FACT: Ben laden caused u to run the strret and not sadam..and yet we seem to be rewarding one and punishing the other.


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 21:47:

Tell this little boy that he is safe from terror...then i will be against ANY war on terrorism or countries with WMD....He lost his dad in 9.11


Posted by tranceaholic on Mar-20-2003 22:59:

if u read my post before...i cant tell him that because iraq was never a terror on him or not the one who killed his father..the people who killed his father are free and laughing at his country..what if his uncle was in the army and got killed? would i tell him that sorry boy ur father died but his killers are free amd ur uncle also died in a war that can be avoidable. yeah right..


Posted by malek on Mar-21-2003 00:38:

just a side note: stock exchange indexes do not represent economic growth nor vigour.

How about these children?

















Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-21-2003 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
just a side note: stock exchange indexes do not represent economic growth nor vigour.

How about these children?



















proove those are from Iraq and due to Americas doing cus of war.


Posted by malek on Mar-21-2003 00:50:

hahaha very easy, those children are deformed because uranium depleted shells were used in the first gulf war (also in serbia) and I don't see any reasons why they wouldn't be used in this war.

links:

http://www.isra.cix.co.uk/newsite/iraq/iraqappeal.htm

http://sun.science.wayne.edu/~bio34...entPages/Gumma/

http://www.the-ville.com/scn/1999/0...i_children.html

http://www.isra.cix.co.uk/newsite/p...ry/isra%20iraq/

http://www.americancatholic.org/Mes...00/feature2.asp


Posted by Sputnik on Mar-21-2003 02:24:

hence tiesto14 we are proudly announcing you the dumbest poster and debater again since you see the whole thing from one side, how about i get you some cups instead of eye-glasses


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-21-2003 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
if it prevents another 9.11...then yes its worth it for me.....i refuse to run for my life again in the streets of Manhattan, i refuse to lose any more friends in towers, so its worth it for me....


Dude, go to a traumatized center because of 9.11. I know it was bad, but this things happen all across the world.. everything that happens you say 9.11 this 9.11 that!


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-21-2003 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Sputnik
hence tiesto14 we are proudly announcing you the dumbest poster and debater again since you see the whole thing from one side, how about i get you some cups instead of eye-glasses



i am dumb cus i asked for proof?....oh ok...arent u Canadian?...u guys figure out what the fuck u are yet?..French? English?..wtf are u guys...go drink a molson watch Tom Green and keep sending your hockey players over here eh


Posted by Cyrus King on Mar-21-2003 05:12:

Its funny when Tiesto14 can no longer back up his flawed and ignorant arguments he tries to make himself feel better by further spewing our ignorant remarks about Canada... smart lad


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-21-2003 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Its funny when Tiesto14 can no longer back up his flawed and ignorant arguments he tries to make himself feel better by further spewing our ignorant remarks about Canada... smart lad



lol...that and i dotn feel like digging up links...i should jus keep them bookmarked..


Posted by ZinG on Mar-21-2003 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
i am dumb cus i asked for proof?....oh ok...arent u Canadian?...u guys figure out what the fuck u are yet?..French? English?..wtf are u guys...go drink a molson watch Tom Green and keep sending your hockey players over here eh


And the guy is not even Canadian woahahahahaha
You're flaming the wrong person or what?


Posted by ZinG on Mar-21-2003 06:37:

Where's your country flag Tiesto14?
burn out already?


Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-21-2003 06:37:

quote:
Originally posted by ZinG
And the guy is not even Canadian woahahahahaha
You're flaming the wrong person or what?



um Montreal is Canada...thats where Sputnik is from.


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