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Posted by FuzzyGreen on Mar-20-2003 18:39:

Saddam a proven liar

One of the UN resolutions was that Iraq was to not have Scud missles. Well, this is proof that they do. They launched 4 today. 2 landed in the desert and 2 were shot down by American patriot missles.

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 18:43:

Re: Saddam a proven liar

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
One of the UN resolutions was that Iraq was to not have Scud missles. Well, this is proof that they do. They launched 4 today. 2 landed in the desert and 2 were shot down by American patriot missles.

but we are still wrong ...hahahha nice post

also word is in he set some oil fields on fire....so much for caring for his won people.....fuzzy no matter Hussein does..even if he sends a nuke through the white house, America is still wrong to these people...like frost said to me last night all these people in this room are anti-American because its the cool thing to do right now...LOL

Posted by Renegade on Mar-20-2003 19:06:

If you'd cared to do some research, you'd understand that we knew Iraq had Scud missiles. What do you think the Al Samoud missiles were?

Furthermore, Iraq is permitted to possess Scud missiles, provided their maximum range is 150 km or less. Don't bother saying anything unless you know what you're talking about.

Posted by lotadeus on Mar-20-2003 19:10:

Re: Re: Saddam a proven liar

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
but we are still wrong ...hahahha nice post

also word is in he set some oil fields on fire....so much for caring for his won people.....fuzzy no matter Hussein does..even if he sends a nuke through the white house, America is still wrong to these people...like frost said to me last night all these people in this room are anti-American because its the cool thing to do right now...LOL

european tv stations have some good and perhaps true reasons for the burning oil fields!
theres no reason that saddam set them at moment on fire, cause his own pplz would be angry to saddam! you know what i mean!

like frost said to me last night all these people in this room are anti-American because its the cool thing to do right

more will follow

Lotadeus

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 19:15:

Re: Re: Re: Saddam a proven liar

quote:
Originally posted by lotadeus
european tv stations have some good and perhaps true reasons for the burning oil fields!
theres no reason that saddam set them at moment on fire, cause his own pplz would be angry to saddam! you know what i mean!

like frost said to me last night all these people in this room are anti-American because its the cool thing to do right

more will follow

Lotadeus

Posted by bouzo on Mar-20-2003 19:58:

Posted by occrider on Mar-20-2003 20:42:

Renegade is correct however it may not be completely Tiesto's fault. Initial reports stated that they were scuds rather than Al Saouud (sp) missiles.

Posted by occrider on Mar-20-2003 20:55:

Sorry for all the double posts ... I'm having trouble accessing these forums

Posted by FuzzyGreen on Mar-20-2003 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
If you'd cared to do some research, you'd understand that we knew Iraq had Scud missiles. What do you think the Al Samoud missiles were?

Furthermore, Iraq is permitted to possess Scud missiles, provided their maximum range is 150 km or less. Don't bother saying anything unless you know what you're talking about.

I have done my research.
Al Samoud missiles are not Scud missles. The missiles that were launched at Kuwait had traveled more then 400 km. Care to admit mistake and quit insulting me?

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
I have done my research.
Al Samoud missiles are not Scud missles. The missiles that were launched at Kuwait had traveled more then 400 km. Care to admit mistake and quit insulting me?

so did i....but u posted before me...forums are slow.....now what Renegade?....how are you ging to defend your friend Hussein now

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 21:20:

Posted by biznology on Mar-20-2003 21:32:

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2 were shot down by American patriot missles.

is this true? last time i heard anything about the Pats was oh...lets see...12 years ago. there they were said to have 'saved' Israel from the scuds, when in truth they had something like a 70% rate of failure. have they been updated or is this more US propaganda about 'doing good'?

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 21:47:

Tell this little boy that he is safe from terror...then i will be against ANY war on terrorism or countries with WMD....He lost his dad in 9.11

Posted by biznology on Mar-20-2003 21:52:

wow tiesto14...you need to calm down a bit and try to keep emotion out of your arguments. i dont wanna hear some news story about somebody dying of a heart attack while posting on an internet forum.

its not that you arent right in many ways, but you arent willing to accept a multifaceted argument|

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
wow tiesto14...you need to calm down a bit and try to keep emotion out of your arguments. i dont wanna hear some news story about somebody dying of a heart attack while posting on an internet forum.

its not that you arent right in many ways, but you arent willing to accept a multifaceted argument|

no Biz i can not accept to see another day where fellow American children lose their mothers and fathers....and if that takes the bombing of the entire middle east then so be it/....i am tired of all this antiAmerican bullshit....how Bush is wrong and how America is evil....well let me see these anti-liberal fucks tell this child that we should nto go to war and that HE has to live in fear as does his sisters/brothers because of some pacifist fucks.....

Posted by biznology on Mar-20-2003 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
no Biz i can not accept to see another day where fellow American children lose their mothers and fathers....and if that takes the bombing of the entire middle east then so be it/....i am tired of all this antiAmerican bullshit....how Bush is wrong and how America is evil....well let me see these anti-liberal fucks tell this child that we should nto go to war and that HE has to live in fear as does his sisters/brothers because of some pacifist fucks.....

seriously i see a coronary coming on.

you are missing the point here. you dont want to see American mothers, fathers, children et al have to experience loss, yet you wanna see *everyone* in the middle east do just that?

how does that make sense? are US lives worth more than foreign lives?|

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
seriously i see a coronary coming on.

you are missing the point here. you dont want to see American mothers, fathers, children et al have to experience loss, yet you wanna see *everyone* in the middle east do just that?

how does that make sense? are US lives worth more than foreign lives?|

YES to me they are...if soemone has a gun to MY family or a middle eastern family..well i chooce MINE... why would u give up your family for one of theirs?...

Posted by biznology on Mar-20-2003 22:14:

well i understand that, but its a very sheltered and self centered viewpoint. and while it explains a lot of your views, it doesnt necessarily forgive or prove them as fact.

the truth is that if you were sitting in Iraq, and the greatest military force in the world rolled in, you would most likely consider your family dead already, whether they were or not - whether due to Saddams supposed chem weapons, or just because of the US militarys strength, no matter how many 'good intentions' it may have.

the truth is, your family isnt immediately threatened. if you believe that you are letting terrorism win. you can predict an attack, but if you live in fear or assume, you are losing your own battle|

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 22:16:

simply amazing..Iraq is shooting Scuds left and right.,..yet he CLAIMED not to have them....and u people STILL support him...ur all sick...except for a few of u and u know who u are.

Posted by biznology on Mar-20-2003 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
simply amazing..Iraq is shooting Scuds left and right.,..yet he CLAIMED not to have them....and u people STILL support him...ur all sick...except for a few of u and u know who u are.

see you are still assuming i 'support' iraq just because im analyzing what you say. i dont think anyone here is sending Saddam care packages...|

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
see you are still assuming i 'support' iraq just because im analyzing what you say. i dont think anyone here is sending Saddam care packages...|

I didnt mean YOU

Posted by klingklang77 on Mar-20-2003 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
simply amazing..Iraq is shooting Scuds left and right.,..yet he CLAIMED not to have them....and u people STILL support him...ur all sick...except for a few of u and u know who u are.

yeah this is going way too personal- there is no solid proof that saddam was connected with 9/11.
i lost friends and i almost lost my father in 9/11. and i am still against the war.
just b/c the US is against iraq and his dictatorship and yes they have weapons but so do many other countrys....
if we are so against iraq and saddam and his regime maybe we should start attacking every country that is a dictatorship. he lets start with cuba and let us go to zimbabwe b/c the leader there is a nut case.

if you feel so strongly for the war why don't you go and inlist in the army and serve your country.

Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Mar-20-2003 23:36:

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YES to me they are...

So you admit you'd rather see whole middle east go down in flames than to see several thousands americans die??? And you say we are sick . Just because people are living in the same country you are that doesn't mean they're any better than those living in other ones. You know, Hitler also considered it good to kill all the slavs and jews in order to make the world a better place for german people.

Posted by tiesto14 on Mar-20-2003 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
So you admit you'd rather see whole middle east go down in flames than to see several thousands americans die??? And you say we are sick . Just because people are living in the same country you are that doesn't mean they're any better than those living in other ones. You know, Hitler also considered it good to kill all the slavs and jews in order to make the world a better place for german people.

dont compare me to hitler prick....let me ask u a question...if soemone has a gun to your mothers head or some Iraqis head...and u HAD to choose...u could not say kill me or some gay shit like that...u HAD to choose your mother or the IRaqi...who would u choose?

Posted by Cyrus King on Mar-20-2003 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
dont compare me to hitler prick....let me ask u a question...if soemone has a gun to your mothers head or some Iraqis head...and u HAD to choose...u could not say kill me or some gay shit like that...u HAD to choose your mother or the IRaqi...who would u choose?

You constantly bring up this "gun in the head" analogy to argue your point but its flawed... it never happens.... and its not realistic.....

I think after youve experienced 9/11 you would be more sympathetic to innocent loss of life... instead.. it has turned on you and made you just as disgusting as your war mongering corporate puppet president.....which in my opinion is worse than anything.

Stop seeing this world as people of different nations..... WE ALL BLEED THE SAME COLOUR!!!! AND BLOOD WILL BE SHED IN IRAQ!

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