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Posted by Slade on Mar-28-2003 16:09:

G&D They Aren't All That

just like to express my opinion that Gabriel & Dresdens productions & remixes aren't all that good (apart from 1 or 2) and that I think they're overated and the constant hype about them on this board is rather strange...

Considering Josh Gabriel has done some huge stuff like Wave3 & his remix of Dido - Thank You, I think the majority of stuff he has done with Dave Dresden is a bit of a let down, and is in most cases, lacking in decent overall production finese.

For example; the remix of One For The Road, is just simply boring progressive at a trance tempo. The production is quite shallow in my opinion. I don't understand the hype generated by it on this board. Is it suddenly because the trance crew has felt left out by the increase in popularity in progressive music, and along comes G&D who decide to make prog house for trance tempos, then suddenly they're the new trance gods? It is a curious concept, but I guess its much the same as the hype over Filterheadz late last year.

Nevermind, its just my opinion...

/cue misguided flame war...

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-28-2003 16:14:

whoever said that they were a trance act????...i think what people like about their productions is that they have a different sound and isn't just constant uplifting trance that gets boring after a while. its just about a new sound thats all...which is GOOD..

Posted by djSlain on Mar-28-2003 16:16:

boooooooo.
i can't say i share the opinion. I don't think anyone can argue about the remix of Duncan Shiek's "on a high" or three Drives' "carrera 2". I think they've replaced Ferry Corsten/Tiesto as the strongest remixers out there. They are fresh, original, and they know just how to strike the right chords to feel the bliss of trance. Progressive? what's that?

the remixes of Andain? o mai got! top tunes, G/D, keep up the good work.

and if gabriel and dresden are reading this, all i can say is WOW!

Posted by biznology on Mar-28-2003 16:18:

Re: G&D They Aren't All That

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
...

Nevermind, its just my opinion...

/cue misguided flame war...

exactly. just like everyone that loves them, i could offer hundreds of reasons i like G&D but...would you still care?

the most basic reason i think they are getting well received attention are basically because they handle vocals, even non trance vocals very well. some people dont like vocals, so therefore they prolly wouldnt like G&D.

but beyond that i think it is their diversity in production and song choice that sealed the deal for me. they pick well crafted songs, such as on their EM, that change the flow of the mix without all being hands in the air trancers or deep psych dubs or something. there is a certain accessiblity there, but not one of a cheesy pop mix.

basically the party would be killer- and i wouldnt feel ashamed of dancing to shitty music...like too many Swedish Nation parties|

...oh and dresden and mavie take place in the TA community - which is quite cool i think!

Posted by DJPrototypeX on Mar-28-2003 16:22:

i dont believe all their stuff is a 10/10, but alot of it is different and not just the same song replaced with the samples of the original and such. they have been able to put tonz of energy into a song and thas great for me...

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-28-2003 16:24:

quote:
o mai got!

hahahaha

Posted by LiquidX on Mar-28-2003 16:26:

-What I like about them the style... it's differnet.. which I like!

Posted by Ste on Mar-28-2003 16:29:

i predict a great flaming from the uber-cool "p0rg wh0res"

Posted by shoXx on Mar-28-2003 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJPrototypeX
i dont believe all their stuff is a 10/10, but alot of it is different and not just the same song replaced with the samples of the original and such. they have been able to put tonz of energy into a song and thas great for me...

Agree.

Posted by Slade on Mar-28-2003 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
i predict a great flaming from the uber-cool "p0rg wh0res"

I predict your love children to be very very stupid

Posted by biznology on Mar-28-2003 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
I predict your love children to be very very stupid

but who was the first to flame here? all Ste did was predict...but i think he has a point.

why dont you actually respond to the comments or expound on yours?

btw the One for the Road remix would not rank to highly in their total work in my opinion|

Posted by Ste on Mar-28-2003 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
I predict your love children to be very very stupid

i predict your prediction will only come true if i impregnate your mother.

Posted by speedracer_mec on Mar-28-2003 16:44:

Re: G&D They Aren't All That

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
just like to express my opinion that Gabriel & Dresdens productions & remixes aren't all that good (apart from 1 or 2) and that I think they're overated and the constant hype about them on this board is rather strange...

Considering Josh Gabriel has done some huge stuff like Wave3 & his remix of Dido - Thank You, I think the majority of stuff he has done with Dave Dresden is a bit of a let down, and is in most cases, lacking in decent overall production finese.

For example; the remix of One For The Road, is just simply boring progressive at a trance tempo. The production is quite shallow in my opinion. I don't understand the hype generated by it on this board. Is it suddenly because the trance crew has felt left out by the increase in popularity in progressive music, and along comes G&D who decide to make prog house for trance tempos, then suddenly they're the new trance gods? It is a curious concept, but I guess its much the same as the hype over Filterheadz late last year.

Nevermind, its just my opinion...

/cue misguided flame war...

who is good in ur opinion?

there are plenty of G&D quality tunes that outweigh their bad tunes
lament,remix of southern sun,new order,WOW,layo and bushwacka remixes,...versus some of their lower remixes which in IMO are music,on the road..etc

they have a unique atmospheric melodic sound which i applaud them for.
I dont understand why u are complaining if these guys are one of the pioneers of the era of new dance....

overrated?...i think not

Posted by burns on Mar-28-2003 16:45:

Lamant was kool, wave 3 also.... and so was there essential mix, thats all that comes to mind for me....not amazing producers but pretty talented.

Posted by Az on Mar-28-2003 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
i predict your prediction will only come true if i impregnate your mother.

they are amazing producers, admittedly some isn't to my tastes, but on the whole they're class

Posted by dj tek on Mar-28-2003 17:07:

they are one of the few that can make progressive trance sound right... along with sasha, holden, max graham and dave ralph.

Posted by Nell on Mar-28-2003 17:08:

im glad someone brought this thread up, cos i agree 100%

their mixes of southern sun and mindcircus were diarbolical! It was just the original in both cases with a pathetic g&d beat added (the same one that appears in most of their other productions)

i dont find any energy in any of their stuff tbh, only wave 3, and remixes by other producers of some of their other stuff.

its amazing that i do own around 10-15 cds with their remixes on, but i seriously couldnt say i could listen to them over and over.

Posted by speedracer_mec on Mar-28-2003 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
im glad someone brought this thread up, cos i agree 100%

their mixes of southern sun and mindcircus were diarbolical! It was just the original in both cases with a pathetic g&d beat added (the same one that appears in most of their other productions)

i dont find any energy in any of their stuff tbh, only wave 3, and remixes by other producers of some of their other stuff.

its amazing that i do own around 10-15 cds with their remixes on, but i seriously couldnt say i could listen to them over and over.

im quite shocked...u didnt like their remix of southern sun.
it completely blew away all the other remixes..the breakdown with about 3 min left in the tune was amazing and extremely euphoric dreamy.

Posted by PVDrules on Mar-28-2003 17:27:

I don;t care for the G and D remix of southern sun as well. they do have a few good remixes tho ( mindscircus, as the rush comes on and beuatiful things). But I didnt care for their essential mix.. not enough energy , I still prefer Tiesto , AVB and PVD. Tiesto and AVB june 13th baby OYA!.

Posted by Rhythm on Mar-28-2003 17:28:

Their EM turned a lot of heads on the board, and understandably so as many of the tunes kicked some serious ass.
I find G&D's sound to be pretty interesting, but I'm not obsessed with them Their style of producing is refreshing to me, and I support em 100%!!

Posted by sash on Mar-28-2003 17:39:

yeah there is a lotta hype, but i think they live up to it
their WOW remix is one my all time faves, along with on a high
and their ils and grayarea really grew on me...

Posted by daydreamer on Mar-28-2003 18:08:

love G & D but the remix of summer calling is nothing compare to ther airwave club mix.

late
dreamer

Posted by RenderedDream on Mar-28-2003 18:32:

i agree with Teknoscaper.
i don't like prog stuff much but i think their stuff is rather "empty" and i don't understand the hype either..well it's all about tastes..

Posted by BeatFreak on Mar-28-2003 18:48:

Listen to Balligomingo - Purify (Gabriel & Dresden remix). It's fuckin' awesome. Simple and effective. Gotta nice breakbeat in the middle too.

Posted by Sirocco on Mar-28-2003 19:56:

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