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tommyD vs chaos (respective order ) results
Mix 1
time: 21:32 - 22:11
tot : 39 mins
Tracklisting:
Intro...
1. chicane... saltwater (thrillseekers)
2. Altitude... Tears in the rain
3. The Roc Project... Never (Tiesto)
4. Body-shock... Ghosts in the church
5. System F... Dance Valley theme
6. OceanLab... Clear Bleu Water (Corsten)
7. Jan Johnston... Calling your name (Neo & Farina Remix)
8. Headstrong... Escalator
... Outro!
4/4pts Intro Track
8/10pts Consistent Beatmatching
8/10pts Consistent Phrasematching
8/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
9/10pts Track Selection
7/10pts Mixing Style/Originality
2/3pts Effects
4/5pts Track Order
3/3pts Exit Track
55/65
84 %
awesome track selection 1 unsure mix.. cut out.. try not to overlay vocals
-some scratching on buildups.. well cued
very uplifting.. watch when fast mixing try to know tracks better
Mix 2
time: 22:15 -23:03
48 mins
Tracklisting:
1) depeche mode - i feel loved (lexicon avenue remix)
2) jewel - intuition (markus schulz remix) volume a bit loud 22:21
3) duncan sheik - on a high (gabriel and Dresden remix) 22:29
4) solar stone - seven cities (armin van buren mix) vocals still in.. very good off cue 22:34
5) Hydra - affinity (thrillseekers dub)bit of a skip drifting too long mix was a bit weak 22:40
6) chicane - autumn tactics (thrillseekers remix) nice trailing with the melody from the track before 22:45
7) green court - silent heart (wippenberg remix) (mixed from second buildup) 22:52
8) Midtone - Pearl (Darren Christian Remix) 22:57
4/4pts Intro Track
9/10pts Consistent Beatmatching
8/10pts Consistent Phrasematching
8/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
10/10pts Track Selection
9/10pts Mixing Style/Originality
1/3pts Effects
5/5pts Track Order
2/3pts Exit Track
56/65
86%
great progression.. transitions need more work tho very good knowledge of tracks and nice sampleing
clean mixing of progressive
great trance at the end too
These are the results from my judging
great mixes to both.. very nice to see you guys trying to cram as many tracks in in as short as possible.. congratulations kaos if you do end up wiinning this round
good luck to both of you on your next challenges!
Nrg2Nfinit
Ah!
Doh! Beaten by 1 point! sounds like it was a great match, i wish i could have heard your mix, can u upload it if u get the chance? Thanks
Re: Ah!
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| Originally posted by tommyd Doh! Beaten by 1 point! sounds like it was a great match, i wish i could have heard your mix, can u upload it if u get the chance? Thanks |
Nrg2NFinit vs. dj_KaoS
very similar sets, actually;
except
Nrg's was filled with variables;
a bit too many; which, in turn, in many occasions turned out to be off-beat or uneffective. it also distracted your mixing a bit. not much; just a tad off-cue at points in your set.
dj_KaoS wins this round,
for the simple reason of consitency.
Nrg,
lay off the beer for our challenge
:]
lol hehe i guess i tried to be a little too abstract 
congrats kaos
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| Originally posted by emono Nrg2NFinit vs. dj_KaoS very similar sets, actually; except Nrg's was filled with variables; a bit too many; which, in turn, in many occasions turned out to be off-beat or uneffective. it also distracted your mixing a bit. not much; just a tad off-cue at points in your set. dj_KaoS wins this round, for the simple reason of consitency. Nrg, lay off the beer for our challenge :] |
Re: Ah!
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| Originally posted by tommyd Doh! Beaten by 1 point! sounds like it was a great match, i wish i could have heard your mix, can u upload it if u get the chance? Thanks |
GUH- Cant challenge anymore - I guess 5 is enough for now. CATCH UP PEOPLE. lol
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| Originally posted by xKaoSx GUH- Cant challenge anymore - I guess 5 is enough for now. CATCH UP PEOPLE. lol |
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| Originally posted by Project T i just challenged mr Nfinit, so i'm still free to challenge before i go away |
4pts Intro Track
Here is my review of Khaos vs TommyD: Again, since one judge already judged it, I don't know how you want to handle it, but since the outcome was the same and it wouldn't matter if there was a third judge...
10pts Consistent Beatmatching
10pts Consistent Phrasematching
10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
10pts Track Selection
10pts Mixing Style/Originality
5pts Sound Quality
3pts Effects
5pts Track Order
3pts Exit Track
You start with 100% and I take off points for imperfections. This means that if your mix is considerably longer than your opponent's, you have more of a chance of getting points taken off! This means stick to the same time limit that you and your opponent agree on. It's not really far to judge two mixes that are incredibly different in time. I tend to nit-pick when I judge, so don't be offended when I do so. I critique the mixes so that you can hopefully learn from that critique and if I say everything was pretty good, then that doesn't help you learn how to become better. I listen to trance all day long almost everyday, so if I hear those same tracks over and over again in your mixes, down goes the points for Originality. I want to hear good tracks that I've never heard before and mixes of good tracks that aren��t played all day long! BUT, this doesn��t mean that I will dock points for mixes that have a lot of popular tracks, as long as the set flows very well and is arranged well also.
It is possible to get more points than are listed for each category if you are quite exceptional in any one of them. You have a better chance of getting points over 100% in the lower point cats like effects and intro/exit tracks rather than beatmatching etc. I try to judge the sets on how they would hold up in a club setting, because that is what I think most of us are striving for. This doesn��t mean that a headlining set will always beat out a warm-up set either. I will try to remain unbiased between the two types of sets and also of sets of different genres, but my own personal tastes will always seep into my judging!
Mix 1
4/4pts Intro Track
Nice original intro leading into a short upbeat track.
10/10pts Consistent Beatmatching
No problems here!
8/10pts Consistent Phrasematching
I couldn��t quite tell what was wrong with your first transition, but it sounded like the phrasing was off. On the transition from track 6 to 7 I thought that your choice of when to transition over was quite elongated and it was awkward when the bassline finally did switch over.
9/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
The transition into track 4 was a bit too loud on the volume and as a result the bass beat was overpowering. Also because of this loudness, it made the transition to track 5 a bit off too because the bass in track 5 is much less powerful. It is more noticeable in headphones that it is on speakers, and it wasn��t too bad of a mistake. Other than that all of your tracks seemed to be in the same key and your gain structure was good.
8/10pts Track Selection
I don��t think that track 5 fit very well into your set. The middle portion of that track didn��t stick with the more pure trance tracks that comprised the rest of your set; it was more hard house, IMO. Again, I feel the same way about track 8. I like that track also, but it doesn��t quite fit in to the rest of your mix as well as another track may have.
6/10pts Mixing Style/Originality
I enjoyed your style of mixing quite a lot. I think that you tended to mix out of most of the tracks at a very good time. One, I think could have been mixed into sooner, and one later, but the other 6 were very good. You designed a nice intro and added a couple of effects for a little bit of flair. The problem is with originality. I��ve heard all of those tracks a LOT, and mostly those particular mixes too. It doesn��t show me that you have any tracks that you can call your own so you can differentiate yourself from other Djs.
5/5pts Sound Quality
There were a few loud pops here and there, but nothing too noticeable. The quality both of each track and overall was very good.
2/3pts Effects
I caught a well timed volume effect in track 5 and possibly a scratch.
4/5pts Track Order
Track 7 is surely a good track, though it has a quite long breakdown for the second to last track in your mix. I think that by having it here, it took away from the energy of your set and would have been better suited for much earlier in your mix.
1/3pts Exit Track
I think that you should have let the track wind down a little bit longer on its own before you cut the power to the table. You powered down right at a high energy part of the track and left me dissapointed as a dancer!
Total = 57/70 = 81%
Mix 2
3/4pts Intro Track
I love depeche mode, and this is a great track. It did, however take quite a while to get into it.
4/10pts Consistent Beatmatching
Beatmatching was off slightly during the 2nd, the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th.
9/10pts Consistent Phrasematching
During your transition from track 4 to 5 you were off by two beats. This transition is a little tricky because seven cities puts emphasis on beats 2 and 4 and not 1 and 3 like most tracks. Listen to the main instruments in the chorus�Xthe high frequency instruments�Xand you should be able to tell better.
8/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
The volume on the second track is a little high, but not too noticeable��. Transition 6 gets a bit loud on the highs.
10/10 + 2pts Track Selection
Kudos man, this was an incredible set track-wise. You earn bonus points! Way to mix an incredible selection of tunes, some which I have heard and love, others which I have just been introduced to.
Track 3 was a really good one!!
9/10pts Mixing Style/Originality
I think that it would have been better to bring the volume up quicker and start your mix a little earlier during the third transition. If you did this though, I think that the main part of seven cities would have overlapped the vocals of the last track too much. It��s a tough call which one to do (start later or at the time before you did), but you didn��t really choose either one, it was some of both. The overlap was a little bit too much, but it worked out decently. This was the only transition that I really want to grip over. There could be a few improvements like making your transitions a little quicker, but that is all in your own style too. I think that you really made this set your own.
3/5pts Sound Quality
Well, I tried my best to take into account that it was only 64kbps, and since the tracks were all high quality before you encoded it, that helped quite a bit. A little bit higher would have been nice. The main problem that I had, because it was 64kbps, the highs got very tinny and started to hurt my ears since you were increasing the volume as you progressed during the set.
2/3pts Effects
I didn��t hear any effects, but I did hear a reverse-tease, if you will, at the end, very nice.
5/5 + 1pts Track Order
I think that the order was very good. This set was an awesome arrangement of tracks! Again, I will give you a bonus point.
3/3pts Exit Track
You kept the energy high right up until the very last few seconds, good!
Total = 59/70 = 84%
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| Originally posted by Dj Flesch 4pts Intro Track Here is my review of Khaos vs TommyD: Again, since one judge already judged it, I don't know how you want to handle it, but since the outcome was the same and it wouldn't matter if there was a third judge... 10pts Consistent Beatmatching 10pts Consistent Phrasematching 10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure 10pts Track Selection 10pts Mixing Style/Originality 5pts Sound Quality 3pts Effects 5pts Track Order 3pts Exit Track |
128k next time!
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| Originally posted by xKaoSx God I love reading your reviews- They help so much. Win or lose I feel like I won. You're a definite asset to be a judge. I hope in influences others to join as well. You are right though. I was concentrating more on phrasing and blending than beatmatching and it showed. lol You have a very good ear. Just so you know- I've only been doing this for 1.5 years. I spin how I feel- Sorry about the 64k - I figured you would want smaller or quality 128k next time!own'd by silent heart and pearl |
hehe It's funny because I've received a couple PMs saying that they want to challenge me (someday) after they get better...but they have never even hear me mix! I must admit that I am much better at picking out flaws than not making them in my own mixes.
what's the matter with the ftp server? i can't connect to it anymore since yesterday afternoon.
[edit]it finally works again
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| Originally posted by DJ NGE what's the matter with the ftp server? i can't connect to it anymore since yesterday afternoon. [edit]it finally works again |
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| Originally posted by xKaoSx Sorry- computer crashed had to reinstall OS and EVERYTHING |
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit tommyD vs chaos (respective order ) results Mix 2 time: 22:15 -23:03 48 mins Tracklisting: 1) depeche mode - i feel loved (lexicon avenue remix) 2) jewel - intuition (markus schulz remix) volume a bit loud 22:21 3) duncan sheik - on a high (gabriel and Dresden remix) 22:29 |
ok, Nrg2Nfinit, kaos previsionally said he would judge, and Ian^ definately said he would judge our mixes, I am gonna use part 2 of my tranceairwaves show as my mix, part 1 is my mix from against kaos
if any1 wants to listen...
[128kbps] http://tranceairwaves.com/stream/bbhigh.pls
[56kbps] http://tranceairwaves.com/stream/bblow.pls
[24kbps] http://tranceairwaves.com/stream/dialup.pls
starts at 8pm gmt 2morra, but the actual proper mix against Nrg2Nfinit starts at 9pm gmt, the previous mix (part 1) ending with Ti�sto & Junkie XL - Obsession, so the intro track is a nice surprise 
if that's ok with u m8 ?
yep sounds good to me.. ill probably record my mix and upload it to kaos' ftp.. sometime today
how long will yours segment for tranceairwaves be so i can make a mix to approximately teh same time?
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit yep sounds good to me.. ill probably record my mix and upload it to kaos' ftp.. sometime today how long will yours segment for tranceairwaves be so i can make a mix to approximately teh same time? |
Right i need to get my arse into gear for this so ill challenge some1, and seein as kaos was wingein that he couldnt challenge any1 i'll challenge you.
Will do a mix tomorrow and will need to speak to you bout uploading it tomorrow night some time.
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| Originally posted by DJRavemonkey Right i need to get my arse into gear for this so ill challenge some1, and seein as kaos was wingein that he couldnt challenge any1 i'll challenge you. Will do a mix tomorrow and will need to speak to you bout uploading it tomorrow night some time. |
okay sorted kaos, so when do we have to sort this by? just when we have both done mixes, or is there a set limit?
well- we have 1 week- i can either stream it to a judge we agree on or the judge can download them.
usually we figure out who's mix 1 and mix 2 and name them that so the judge doesnt know who's who.
Flesch seems a good judge.
emono vs flesch
I judge pretty much my reaction would be in a club if i heard it so here's how it goes
Mix 1
Hard Housey Trance Stuff
Started off very nice- classic opening choon.
good energy build up through out set- Sorta ran outta
steam on the last couple songs.
Mixing was good- didnt notice many flaws.
Mostly usual phasing stuff. Definitely want to get up and dance - prob would have sat down the last couple songs.
Mix 2
Prog
Prog's a little different- when im at the club listening to this- I either "listen" or I listen and talk to other people.
Track selection was good - Seems couple mixes where there were a little too much "idle" beats at the end of the toon.
Maybe want to mix in the other tune a little faster.
There were definite times i want to just listen and other times I would want to talk.
Im going to have to give it to Mix 1 mostly because
of flow of the set.
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