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Posted by starsearcher on Feb-02-2005 17:16:

I wanna meet the Brazilian QT...who doesn't like Brazilian QTs??


Posted by The Highroller on Feb-02-2005 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
Ummmmmmm i was pretty much all over the place.... but now that i found out that u and trancechaos are good friends i'll make sure to tell him to introduce us next time!


Sounds good.

Oh one thing that I forgot to mention, what was it with Dumonde's continuous "We are gods, cheer for us!" attitude? It was getting very boring watching them get up on stage and parading around.

I think I even heard some people booing at them after a while. I laughed and almost booed myself.

I hate this kind of "rockstar" attitude.

Maybe if they actually played a good set then it would be somewhat understandable.


Posted by dallastar on Feb-02-2005 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
I wanna meet the Brazilian QT...who doesn't like Brazilian QTs??


we know u do!


Posted by maxpain on Feb-02-2005 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
Yeah, well you go to a normal show and you don't see you idiots up on the stage waving a flag around. I have no problems with my view being obstructed by a flag or sign or whatever for a bit. But come on, this was rediculous, and from what I've heard it happens everytime. I was talking to some people who are from Isreal but weren't like you guys jumping around with flags; they said it was disrespectful and they were embarassed to be associated with you.

Now what does that say?

Nothing wrong with going crazy but there is always a level of control. You don't have to act retarded to be 'crazy' or have a good time.

Try jumping up on the stage for Armin or Tiesto or the like and see how far you get. Actually... try it, that way you won't be in a state to jump again after the bouncers pounce all over your respected flag waving asses.


I say ban flags altogether especially at places where Infected Mushroom or Astral Projection shows. The flags are fucking annoying and I wished that these hooligans wouldn't be let in with their annoying flags

I have mentioned this before but nothing will happen because it is too political a situation especially since the magority owner is Arabic and the head of security is also Arabic, the manager is Arabic and even one of the booking guys is Arabic so if you have a place with so many Arabs in high places and you don't let in people with Israeli flags then you're gonna have some controversy and Isreali/Jewish people would be bitching and saying that everyone is anti-semetic and all.

I personally think that having people running around with flags is potentially dangerous but whatever. I don't believe that there are enough complaints on this issue and even if there were I still don't think that anything would be done especially given the high political nature of the situation and the magority owner being Arabic and the guy with the 2nd most shares is Jewish himself.


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-03-2005 05:06:




Thanks for breaking down the ratial background of the Guv's staff for the rest of us.

I'm sure that information will never come in handy.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Feb-03-2005 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by psyrel
I usually don't interrupt total strangers but I couldn't help but overhear, "Scumfrog something something Nat, Graham something something something RJ" - so I just had to ask if you were also on TA.


Har har!


Posted by Endlesswave on Feb-03-2005 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by maxpain
I say ban flags altogether especially at places where Infected Mushroom or Astral Projection shows. The flags are fucking annoying and I wished that these hooligans wouldn't be let in with their annoying flags

I have mentioned this before but nothing will happen because it is too political a situation especially since the magority owner is Arabic and the head of security is also Arabic, the manager is Arabic and even one of the booking guys is Arabic so if you have a place with so many Arabs in high places and you don't let in people with Israeli flags then you're gonna have some controversy and Isreali/Jewish people would be bitching and saying that everyone is anti-semetic and all.

I personally think that having people running around with flags is potentially dangerous but whatever. I don't believe that there are enough complaints on this issue and even if there were I still don't think that anything would be done especially given the high political nature of the situation and the magority owner being Arabic and the guy with the 2nd most shares is Jewish himself.




It's not about the flags that annoy me. It's the people who wave them around that do. They act like IDIOTS and run around all night. With or without a flag people like that annoy me.


Posted by monishb on Feb-03-2005 05:37:

quote:
Originally posted by maxpain
I say ban flags altogether especially at places where Infected Mushroom or Astral Projection shows. The flags are fucking annoying and I wished that these hooligans wouldn't be let in with their annoying flags

I have mentioned this before but nothing will happen because it is too political a situation especially since the magority owner is Arabic and the head of security is also Arabic, the manager is Arabic and even one of the booking guys is Arabic so if you have a place with so many Arabs in high places and you don't let in people with Israeli flags then you're gonna have some controversy and Isreali/Jewish people would be bitching and saying that everyone is anti-semetic and all.

I personally think that having people running around with flags is potentially dangerous but whatever. I don't believe that there are enough complaints on this issue and even if there were I still don't think that anything would be done especially given the high political nature of the situation and the magority owner being Arabic and the guy with the 2nd most shares is Jewish himself.


i agree, but i still dont see the point of waving a flag in a night club any how sounds retarted to me, if your proud of your backgroud go outside and do it in public...

LOL has nothing to do with me or partiers, there to have a good time, not show patriotism.


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-03-2005 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by maxtuh
i agree, but i still dont see the point of waving a flag in a night club any how sounds retarted to me, if your proud of your backgroud go outside and do it in public...

LOL has nothing to do with me or partiers, there to have a good time, not show patriotism.

Retarded or not, they're entitled to wave any flag or other object they want to. You and maxine can hate it all you want, but when it comes to dumb shit like saying they "shouldn't be allowed in with that flag", you have to realize that there's no logic or rationale for such an assertion.

I could bring a giant dildo in there and wave it around all night, assuming that the bouncers didn't consider it some kind of weapon.

I'll be the first to admit that the flag-wavers on the weekend were acting like twats, but there are twat flag-wavers for other countries at tons of parties, and it's funny how nobody seems to notice until it's the Israeli flag.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Feb-03-2005 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

I could bring a giant dildo in there and wave it around all night.


Out of all the things you can bring in there you wanna bring a giant dildo?I wonder why

quote:
I'll be the first to admit that the flag-wavers on the weekend were acting like twats, but there are twat flag-wavers for other countries at tons of parties, and it's funny how nobody seems to notice until it's the Israeli flag.


yes Nutsack everyone in this world is anti-semetic.

I was soooooooo close to go and knock those morons out but my sister stopped me.


Posted by Spam on Feb-03-2005 06:47:

Once again... what did they do that offends you so much? Were they too loud? Were they jumping too high? Did they block your view of the 'precious' DJ? The worst they did was chant "Infected!" during Dave Ralph's set. That's it. End of story. If the DJs really minded the stage-hopping, they would have waved Security over immediatly.


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-03-2005 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Once again... what did they do that offends you so much? Were they too loud? Were they jumping too high? Did they block your view of the 'precious' DJ? The worst they did was chant "Infected!" during Dave Ralph's set. That's it. End of story. If the DJs really minded the stage-hopping, they would have waved Security over immediatly.


First off.. flag waving is annoying... but i still think they should be able to bring in flags if they want. BUt what i have a problem with is when they go on stage when another dj is spinning before or after IM or astral and wave it around for 10 people to scream while the other thousand want to punch thier faces out.

This always happens when IM comes.


Posted by geroin on Feb-03-2005 07:23:

i dont understand why people are complaining so much
psychedelic music is nuts and people are supposed to go nuts and jump around
first of all they were not blocking the view of a dj, second of all they only did it at infected mushroom events not any place else or some other event
third they are from israel and they are proud, they miss their country and miss the way they partied to psy music
they know how to party, they dance, they dont start fights with anybody, they are just having fun (too much fun) which is all good in my books
i dont understand why are you idiots complaining, there was enough space in the room, go in the back and dance all you want this is not a concert or a comedy standup show, you're listening to music and its there so you should enjoy it while it lasts
im russian and if some amazing russian djs came to guv and we had people with flags i would be proud too
if youre from another coutry and your dj would be here you would like it too
not only the crowd gives out more energy to the djs but it makes them perform better and actually get into the music and i love it
this is the way it should always be


Posted by hardcore trancer on Feb-03-2005 07:55:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
third they are from israel and they are proud, they miss their country and miss the way they partied to psy music
they know how to party, they dance, they dont start fights with anybody



SO becuse they are proud to be from Isreal they are allowed to act like fuckin morons?.Also if they miss their country they can go back no?

and about them not starting fights,you are wrong about that,Malek from Montreal forums was here awhile back in the summer,and Infected mushrooms were here and a group of Isreali's wanted to beat him up because he was arabic .So dont tell me they are all innocent and just having fun.

quote:
i dont understand why are you idiots complaining, there was enough space in the room, go in the back and dance all you want this is not a concert or a comedy standup show, you're listening to music and its there so you should enjoy it while it lasts


Iam not there to see bunch of fuckin flags in my face.

quote:
im russian and if some amazing russian djs came to guv and we had people with flags i would be proud too
if youre from another coutry and your dj would be here you would like it too
not only the crowd gives out more energy to the djs but it makes them perform better and actually get into the music and i love it
this is the way it should always be



Once again I dont giva fuck about flags just dont act stupid,wanna be proud of your country thats fine but realize that there are others around and they didnt pay to come see flags in their faces.


I forgot to bring my Palestinian flag this time,Iam sure it would be ok though since those guys are all friendly and just having fun.

cant wait till next time


Posted by hardcore trancer on Feb-03-2005 08:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Once again... what did they do that offends you so much? Were they too loud? Were they jumping too high? Did they block your view of the 'precious' DJ? The worst they did was chant "Infected!" during Dave Ralph's set. That's it. End of story. If the DJs really minded the stage-hopping, they would have waved Security over immediatly.



my answer is yes to all that.The reason no one says or does anyting about them is because since Isreali's are EXTREMLY sensitive people and if you ever want to criticize them about anything I mean anything they get offended and they call you racist


Posted by monishb on Feb-03-2005 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
SO becuse they are proud to be from Isreal they are allowed to act like fuckin morons?.Also if they miss their country they can go back no?

and about them not starting fights,you are wrong about that,Malek from Montreal forums was here awhile back in the summer,and Infected mushrooms were here and a group of Isreali's wanted to beat him up because he was arabic .So dont tell me they are all innocent and just having fun.



Iam not there to see bunch of fuckin flags in my face.




Once again I dont giva fuck about flags just dont act stupid,wanna be proud of your country thats fine but realize that there are others around and they didnt pay to come see flags in their faces.


I forgot to bring my Palestinian flag this time,Iam sure it would be ok though since those guys are all friendly and just having fun.

cant wait till next time



hahah smack it right in front of them , theyll know


Posted by Mikesta on Feb-03-2005 16:41:

wow there are many of you shit talkers in here eh...
first of all, it doesnt matter what flag or which people are doing it... so dont say the israelis are this and israelis are that...
none of those people started anything with anyone and always had smiles on their faces... and here you are now e-thuggin saying how you wanna do this and that... if a russian dj comes i wont bring a flag, but if there's one in the house, ill join in and jump around as well. if you are actually ready to fight because of that, you are a complete retard. and go try to knock out the biggest group in the house, you'll end up in a situation you wont be wanna be in.

i go to parties to relax, forget about everything and drain the rest of my energy to the music i love... as i said before, some guy spilled a beer on me 20 minutes after i came. ok shit happens, i said "dont worry" and left. would you cry about that too?

if you dont like the race/nation(and i noticed some of u dont), then get the hell out of Canada cause everyone's accepeted here equally.
and if you dont like the way someone's acting go up to them and tell them that or just shut up and dont talk about it.
i dont like many things either, but THAT compared to what people go through every day is NOTHING and is just normal behaviour in life.

when i went to dance valley, there were homosexuals that liked to show their pride, and even though i really dont like it, i didnt care that much cause theyre still people and i respect them the same way as others. no harm, no problem.

YOU are the problem in this case.

sorry for the long post, but i just had to reply since people kept on talking shit.


Posted by Mikesta on Feb-03-2005 16:55:

"I forgot to bring my Palestinian flag this time,Iam sure it would be ok though since those guys are all friendly and just having fun."

first of all, i assume they do it only when the israeli djs come. second, by you bringing a palestinian flag you will just bring the heat cause you just wanna get in their faces. obviously theyre not gonna be so friendly. if you just wanna bring it to show your pride then go ahead - why not. i wish everyone brought their flags - it would just bring more happiness and joy.



"my answer is yes to all that.The reason no one says or does anyting about them is because since Isreali's are EXTREMLY sensitive people and if you ever want to criticize them about anything I mean anything they get offended and they call you racist"

buddy, you cant even argue. you cannot assume anything about anyone. your nation doesnt have sensetive people? your nation doesnt have assholes and idiots? hell yeah it does. every nation does... so stop the stereotyping and talk like a mature person.


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-03-2005 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
SO becuse they are proud to be from Isreal they are allowed to act like fuckin morons?.Also if they miss their country they can go back no?

and about them not starting fights,you are wrong about that,Malek from Montreal forums was here awhile back in the summer,and Infected mushrooms were here and a group of Isreali's wanted to beat him up because he was arabic .So dont tell me they are all innocent and just having fun.


I happened upon this verbal altercation w/Malek, and at best it was a heated argument, Navid. If any of those guys were gonna lay a finger on Malek based on his background, I would've been 1st to punch back.

Listen guys, all this 'bad behavior' is basically due to one thing:
ALCOHOL. They get that rowdy cuz they're drunk. No excuse, but that's what it is. Drunk people have a propensity to be in your face and looking for a fight. Bottom line: Israeli's can be very obnoxious. Go there and see- a little old lady will push u out of the way to get on the bus. Add alcohol to the mix on a night of Israeli pride, and its gonna get nuts. One guy grabbed and shook me demanding I take their picture that night, as if I was there to serve him. I made sure to grab and shake him back JUST as obnoxiously to prove what an idiot he was being. Like I said, I would've told them to tone it down a bit if I thought it would help, but they're drunk, so there's no reasoning. If the bouncers can't keep them under control from jumping on the stage, that's their own fault. They should be told this info in advance when they're sober, cuz there's no use after.


Posted by maxpain on Feb-03-2005 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl


Thanks for breaking down the ratial background of the Guv's staff for the rest of us.

I'm sure that information will never come in handy.


Well I was explaining the situation and political nature of this matter to the average clubber who may be annoyed with this flag situation. The only way to get rid of all these flags is to just not let in any flags at all and use the excuse that flags can be potentially dangerous but I doubt that this can even be done due to the political nature of this situation which I have previously explained.

By the way tatgirl if you're gonna keep ragging on GUV's security then keep in mind that you are welcome to apply at any time and we will see if you can do a better job


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-03-2005 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by maxpain
By the way tatgirl if you're gonna keep ragging on GUV's security then keep in mind that you are welcome to apply at any time and we will see if you can do a better job


Nahhh... I think I'll let u apply for the position, and that way you can implement your 'no flags and no bellybutton rings' enforcement.

All I've ever said is that the security in the KH was lacking THAT NIGHT. Stop reading anything else into it.


Posted by Ortemy on Feb-03-2005 20:24:

I honestly don't understand what's so bad about Israeli ppl jumping with their flags and going nuts to Infected Mushroom show. Of course chanting "Infected" during Dave Ralph set is impolite, but remember ppl chanting "Tiesto" during Mark Oliver's set? Pretty much the same thing...

And those who think that jumping like crazy with happy face and flag in the hands is too much... Try visiting a soccer game somewhere in Europe or South America. I suggest Greece, Italy, Argentina or Brazil. Then I guess you will actully understand what is too much...


Posted by The Highroller on Feb-03-2005 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Nahhh... I think I'll let u apply for the position, and that way you can implement your 'no flags and no bellybutton rings' enforcement.


Don't forget about no bald people!


Posted by monishb on Feb-08-2005 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Retarded or not, they're entitled to wave any flag or other object they want to. You and maxine can hate it all you want, but when it comes to dumb shit like saying they "shouldn't be allowed in with that flag", you have to realize that there's no logic or rationale for such an assertion.

I could bring a giant dildo in there and wave it around all night, assuming that the bouncers didn't consider it some kind of weapon.

I'll be the first to admit that the flag-wavers on the weekend were acting like twats, but there are twat flag-wavers for other countries at tons of parties, and it's funny how nobody seems to notice until it's the Israeli flag.



okkkkk i am bringing the indian flag next time and ill make sure ill smack it right in front of the TA crowd.

Mr Professor


Posted by shanny on Feb-11-2005 06:23:

When infected mushroom was in the guvernment back in october the people running around with the flag was bad just because it was so crowded and they were running into people and messing around with the set up at the front.
I didn't really think it was the same this time around.


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