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just like Chris Burke yesterday for the Astros, another rookie comes through with a huge effort, this time Ervin Santana with the emergency outing

Johnson did pretty well in sorta making up for his stinker on Friday. At least he did his part and kept the Angels from scoring more.

The White Sox must be loving their chances with the Angels starting rotation cooked

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Originally posted by RichieRich i'm going to second guess torre again for the second year in a row. he should have pulled mussina way earlier. he just didnt have it, and joe should have realized it.

I totally agree. He should have pulled him after Anderson's HR.

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Originally posted by Mebot And now your Yankees' season is over

thank god for that...

Yankees fans...

Jeter has been getting a pass for the past 2+ years. But he has hardly been Mr. Anything in these last few post-seasons and also in regular season "clutch" situations.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Yankees fans... Jeter has been getting a pass for the past 2+ years. But he has hardly been Mr. Anything in these last few post-seasons and also in regular season "clutch" situations.

I never said that there havent been times when Jeter deserves a crack upside the head with a bat from Bonds.

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Originally posted by Vlad I never said that there havent been times when Jeter deserves a crack upside the head with a bat from Bonds.

I never said that you didn't. But it seems Rodriguez gets the blunt of everything. Yet Jeter gets a pass from fans and the media because he got a few big hits 6 or 7 years ago. Check the stats. He hasn't been too hot in "Close and Late" situations over the last few years.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 I never said that you didn't. But it seems Rodriguez gets the blunt of everything. Yet Jeter gets a pass from fans and the media because he got a few big hits 6 or 7 years ago. Check the stats. He hasn't been too hot in "Close and Late" situations over the last few years.

I think A-Rod gets the bunt of it all is because of the 200 million dollar tag on his head.

Meh. That's a stupid reason. Especially since Jeter makes 18.

Yeah .... Yankees that I dislike have really let me down in the TA Baseball Playoff Pool. I am at the brink of elimination from winning it...

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Meh. That's a stupid reason. Especially since Jeter makes 18.

Ok, look, you dont understand what it is to be a Yankee fan. Jeter has been here his entire career, and was a major part for us winning 4 rings in 5 years - this is what kinda gives him the 'free pass'.

Being a Mets fan, you wouldnt understand this. You might understand if the Mets win a few titles thanks to Beltran, than he goes on a bit of a slump, and while other people will be criticizing him, you will always revert back to when he was a big part of those titles.

Die hard fans are the biggest neo-'insert team here' fans ever and will butcher players that come here for one reason and dont come through.

See, us fans, we care about winning, fuck the stats... you dont win... you dont contribute when it counts... you will be on the other end of a verbal lashing.

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Originally posted by Vlad See, us fans, we care about winning, fuck the stats... you dont win... you dont contribute when it counts... you will be on the other end of a verbal lashing.

my my someone's not taking the loss well. i agree that jeter has earned his keep. tho a playoff series is a small sample and not reflective of the whole body of work, a-rod hasn't done too much the last two postseasons to warrant any praise

hmm...so anyone care to speculate on who will be traded/leave as a result of these last two seasons?

WE...NEED...STARTING PITCHERS!!! It's ESSENTIAL!!!

hmm did anyone realize that Randy Johnson had that ongoing problem with that slider when trying to recruit him? Or is that a pitch that he doesn't throw that often? I admit im not knowledgeable enough about his history to know.

i really like this thread, im learning a lot

A-Rod (E-Rod, Pay-Rod, A-Fraud ) is the new Mr. May

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Originally posted by phoenixBEBE hmm...so anyone care to speculate on who will be traded/leave as a result of these last two seasons? WE...NEED...STARTING PITCHERS!!! It's ESSENTIAL!!! hmm did anyone realize that Randy Johnson had that ongoing problem with that slider when trying to recruit him? Or is that a pitch that he doesn't throw that often? I admit im not knowledgeable enough about his history to know. i really like this thread, im learning a lot

Well... here's the Yankees rotation next year:

Randy Johnson
Mike Mussina
Carl Pavano
Jaret Wright
Shawn Chacon

So... the rotation is pretty set. 4 of those pitchers are untradeable without paying their entire salary. And the other one is the one pitcher you wouldn't want to trade.

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Originally posted by Vlad See, us fans, we care about winning, fuck the stats... you dont win... you dont contribute when it counts... you will be on the other end of a verbal lashing.

But... you only really watch when the Yankees are in the playoffs, in September, and when they play the Red Sox. Is that really a "fan?" Let's see you watch all 162 when the Yankees finish in last place, like I had for the last 3 years before this one. You're not a fan if you only watch/care when your team is in the playoffs.

what about me? I admit it, I can't devote myself to watching every game that doesn't make me less of a fan of my team and the sport. I mean I played the game for 15yrs of my life into Div2 College, but now with a working schedule and stuff, I simply can't devote any time to following the sport (fantasy leagues/football betting). I use to bet heavy on football say 2-3yrs ago, ever since then I haven't followed the sport. I'm still a fan don't get me wrong. I enjoy watching games both baseball and basketball, just that I simply can't devote time to keep up with stats and stuff. I can only voice my opinion about my team, I guess that's how I am a fan. Is it any different than what some of you consider fans, I can say a good amount have already demonstrated their depth of knowledge but that doesn't make you anymore the fan of the sport/team than I right?

lets just hope that the METS pick up Molina as thier C for next year

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Well... here's the Yankees rotation next year: Randy Johnson Mike Mussina Carl Pavano Jaret Wright Shawn Chacon So... the rotation is pretty set. 4 of those pitchers are untradeable without paying their entire salary. And the other one is the one pitcher you wouldn't want to trade.

what about chin ming wang?

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Well... here's the Yankees rotation next year: Randy Johnson Mike Mussina Carl Pavano Jaret Wright Shawn Chacon So... the rotation is pretty set. 4 of those pitchers are untradeable without paying their entire salary. And the other one is the one pitcher you wouldn't want to trade.

what about chin ming wang?

Yankees..season...is...over. The white sox looked great, I predict they will win it. Arod sucked when it counts again, I love it.

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Originally posted by Wheel of Steel Yankees..season...is...over. The white sox looked great, I predict they will win it. Arod sucked when it counts again, I love it.

as much as I would like the white sox to win it...

it'll be the year of the astros

The Yankees were exposed as a flawed team

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Originally posted by TranceHater The Yankees were exposed as a flawed team

I'll agree with that. This isn't the late 90's anymore.....taking it in the pants, buying has been's aint gonna cut it.

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Originally posted by TranceHater what about chin ming wang?

What about him? Bullpen or trade bait is what I'd guess.

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