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Originally posted by RapidFire because cheese goes best with crackers

HA HA HA !! that is so funny, I am storing that for future use... ha ha



@ the thread starter:
It depends on your location...

The two Djs that brought me over to Trance; one was black the other was Ecuadorian/Irish...(what a combo, right) I am Hispanic and mainly Dj House music..... but I can say this.... White, Black, Yellow, Brown or even Mixed...... it should not matter what the race make up is.... Trance is a world wide blessing...you can go to a club in Asia and hear choice tunes and then head over to Europe or the Middle East or Mexico or Brazil and you will still hear those choice tunes... and the vibe is the same.....I think Trance is the only genre of EDM that has that kind of pull......not every one can understand House Music, but Trance...is another vibe


plus... if it really plays on your mind, perhaps you have an underlying issue....

Oh, don't you know?

'Cause in late 30's all the people were united in Germany and listening to Trance! But then Hitler was tired of seeing black people giving a contrast at the audience's color, so he ordered the Genocide!

Among the people killed were jews, just because he thought their productions were to psychedelic for he's uplifting taste.

And, of course, after this, black people never wanted to ear about Trance again, and, actually, they just listen do Kuduro and Kizomba.

This is HISTORY right here!

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Originally posted by vbmaster This is HISTORY right here!

So is this thread.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yay for making a racial issue out of everything.

Well said. Most retarded thread for 2007 so far.

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Originally posted by Ben_Lei Well said. Most retarded thread for 2007 so far.

2005, actually.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery 2005, actually.

Lol, your right. I that case, "most long running retarded thread so far".

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Originally posted by Aiwendil "Trance is the form of electronic music most appreciated by unrhythmic white people because it has the least rhythmic content." http://www.ishkur.com/tshirts/

What, and rap does?

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Originally posted by RapidFire because cheese goes best with crackers

We have a winnar !

it's pretty diverse in San Francisco and I want to say LA too but I don't live or go to LA often enough. Some of my favorite local trance DJs are also not white but Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Vietnamese

Thomas Phan FTW!!! :P

You can always count on TA to deliver threads like these, priceless.

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Originally posted by RapidFire because cheese goes best with crackers

I lolled so hard I started coughing.

Not that that means much, sick as I am atm, but still, it was funny.

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Originally posted by Ishkur The difference between a classically trained musician and a electronically trained one is the difference between an archer and a musketeer. It takes a lifetime to learn how to use a bow & arrow effectively. But only an hour to train someone how to use a musket, despite the fact that the musket is a more complicated weapon. But that's because the musket does all the work. All the musketeer has to do is point and shoot. In the same vein, the creativity and craft required to study, learn, apply, and play a musical instrument is so beyond the reach of today's ADD-riddled bedroom producers that most of them would give up long before they figure out how to compose anything meaningful with it. That's why they enjoy VSTs and softsynths. If you think learning MIDI or applying an ADSR envelope is some sort of sophisticated, arcane task that precious few are capable of doing, then you're either really stupid or really lousy at doing it. To be fair, it does take awhile to figure out how softsynths work, but it's nowhere near the amount of technical expertise, care, quality, and practise required in actually learning how to play a genuine instrument, and play it well. Anyone who doesn't know a single thing about electronic music can load up a mad libs template on a sequencer and belch out a rudimentary house track in a day. With a couple weeks instruction and training, they can begin producing semi-decent, quality work. In under a year, they can have a marginally decent hit on their hands, if all things marketing wise is taken care of. You can't specify that timetable for a real musician in any capacity.

this is simply not correct, it's written from a very narrow minded point of view. to say that a classically trained musician is nearly always superior to an electronic musician is plain bullshit, and you are just trying to be smart aleck. the point is that many of us are in some way technically talented, else we would not write in an internet forum about music which comes out of circuits or computers. so it's very easy to say that midi and adsr and vsts are easy to understand/use, AND it's easy to say that classically trained musicians are superior and their skills are unreachable for us.

BUT there is always another side to this. imagine a little girl/boy, learning the violin, becoming better and better and after 10-15 years you really become a good musician if you practice regularly. this is not something totally unthinkable. all this violinist ever has done with a computer is writing emails, doing the homework and buying cds (hopefully). if you put this violinist in a recording studio, or at least in front of a computer running ableton/cubase/whatever, all that talent is useless. the violinist knows NOTHING about audio engineering. what i try to point out is that what we consider a matter of common knowledge in our electronic world is completely unknown to many classical musicians. if they dont become extremely good and get to play solos, they are pretty much lost without an orchestra or a band and the obligatory technicians to record them. yes, they might be very good, but only in a very small field of music. what good electronic musicians can do is much broader and of great diversity. and i dont mean asot trance or beatport electro/house (sorry asot/beatport lovers). you cant really compare the worlds.

one last question to think about : if you have 2 persons, one into "music" (learning an instrument), the other one into "audio" (synths, studio, electronic/experimental music) with no previous knowledge, and let them practice for 10 years, each one 2 hours a day. what result is better? you might think this question is ridiculous. it is, as is the whole comparing-music-effort.

concerning this thread, the answer is quite easy: cultural differences. trance is about shallow emotions. and the history of the afro americans doesnt allow that. and if this statement is too drastic for you, then you might want to think a bit more about the coherences in this world

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