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One more final thought I have to contribute: as ironic as posting this is, there needs to be a lot less talk about this sort of thing and more action. If you look back to the acid house explosion of 88/89 you notice there were hardly any magazines or documentation of the scene made in those years, because everyone was having way too much fun to sit and write stuff down. Being an armchair raver doesn't solve anything. When you're standing back criticizing what's happening around you, you're not really doing anything, you're just commenting on what other people are doing. People need to get more involved, even if it's just showing up for parties.

Also note that I haven't made any comments about trance specifically, because I think the problem discussed in this thread relates to a much larger part of electronic music than just trance.

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Originally posted by Push2005 Hmm, yes and no. IMO trance before 1999 is the most original trance; the synths still sound fresh and energetic. You're really hearing the effort to create an energetic atmosphere. When listening to trance now you already have the feeling you've heard it somewhere before, but still I like to listen to it... Because it's produced on a high standard of technical level. Some of the early trance-tracks are just horrible to play out loud. Also much of the trance before 1996 is more like "rave" and hasn't that much in common with the supersaw-trance which mainstream trance has evolved into.

I'm not referring to those "rave" sounda style stuff which Bonzai and some other labels released in early 90s. I'm refering to the stuff which Eye Q, Superstition and MFS released. Those are tunes which still today sound great on a loud sound system.

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Originally posted by Nightshift I think DJ Nemesis is on crack. honestly. He speak about "taking a step outside" and shit, but I honestly dont think he has practiced what he is preaching. Cause if he did, then he wouldn't be arguing this at all. Trance is still very much alive and still kickin. It's jsut different than it used to be. And if he knew anything than he'd know that trance actually appeals to a larger crowd now then it ever has before. So everyone, take a steop outside...a step into trance.

Ok first off, you're an idiot. Second off, see first point.

now that we've got that out of the way..
How old are you? honestly. I have a hard time believing you're even legal to get into clubs, because if you were a regular in the club scene you'd probably know a bit more about exactly how "popular" trance is and the amount of support it gets.

Guess what sherlock, I took a step outside into trance 2 weeks ago.. on a saturday night in the biggest city in western canada.. on a long weekend where everyone's celebrating Canada day.. to see Scott Bond the man behind the Gatecrasher legend. 30 people on the dancefloor maximum. Since that night I have found out that the saturday weekly trance night is no more. Done. We have not one trance night in this city now. They are all house, progressive, or electro. Last time Scott Bond was here around 4 years ago there were over 600 people packed into the club and it was one big night.

Of course according to you I'm supposed to be stepping outside and seeing the amazing popularity of trance and great weekly trance nights full of lots of stoked people.. combined with a regular smattering of great trance guest djs coming through. And apparently when I mention the word trance I'm not supposed to see people cringe.

When the hell are some people going to realize that just because you got Armin's new cd/radio show episode/track and love it and pump it loud and dance around your room and think it's the best ever does NOT mean that the trance scene is doing great!

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When I listne to 1999-2003 stuff, it jsut doesnt have the energy that trance has today. Due to software and computers being able to handle more effects and instruments playing at one time, trance has been able to reach energy levels in the sound that they couldnt in 1999

I don't know what you've been listening to but it's sure not the right places. Go and listen to half the tracks I mentioned in my previous post and then tell me that the current trance has more energy or magic to it. Lol. And what we are hearing these days is not the product of revolutionary new computers or software that has come out since 4 years ago. What we are hearing a whole lot of is buddy from down the street who downloaded reason/fruity loops etc and is putting out tracks now and trying to follow someone else in order to hope for the same success they got. Aside from that, to the talented/experienced producers.. the new software has just made it a bit easier and more convenient to make tracks. People aren't pushing the amount of effects or instruments played at one time into any new area than 4 years ago. The quality of your music isn't proportionally increased with the amount of instruments and fx you can fit into a track. That's usually called overprocessed or too cluttered & busy of a track!

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But I believe that trance lives on and is actually greater than it has ever been before. Trance has CHANGED. Trance LIVES on. It has not DIED.

yes.. so great and popular that people treat it like a bad word and many people avoid it like the plague. Plus threads popping up on a regular basis about the quality of trance and the state of things.

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And all hail Armin Van Buuren's track Sail. I basically creamed my pants the first time i heard it.

Yes.. all Hail Armin, saviour to us all. I have all 257 episodes of A State Of Trance on my hard drive which I listen to in my house every day and rejoice about how great trance is doing.


The first step always, is being able to SEE and ACKNOWLEDGE the problem. This thread is not reaching towards 10,000 views from trance being better than ever.

Not another "trance is dead" topic.

Just for the record -

Sail is shit.

Carry on.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Just for the record - Sail is shit. Carry on.

Thats funny, I feel the same way about your productions.

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Originally posted by Push2005 Hmm, yes and no. IMO trance before 1999 is the most original trance; the synths still sound fresh and energetic. You're really hearing the effort to create an energetic atmosphere.

AMEN ! thats what I'd call trance

btw. listening to: gatecrasher - wet cd2 atm.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I recommend you to listen to trance earlier than 1999. IMO the 1999 era is very overhyped. The best trance was produced during 1990-1997. And it didn't lacked any energy back then.

Why bother with him? He's a complete idiot, and I doubt he'd appreciate pre-anthemic trance if he considers Sail to be the pinnacle of human civilisation.

Hey, Nem! Didn't I say this early on...?

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Originally posted by Sykonee Heh. I never cared about Armin's productions to begin with but, according to his fanboys, Sail is such a track [that's keeping trance alive].

And, lo and behold...

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Originally posted by Nightshift One song: Armin Van Buuren - Sail

Gotta love the predicitibility of Armin's fanboys.

Sail is an utterly crap tune, stealing every epic trance cliche from the 'Glory Years' and adding nothing new whatsoever, from the opening boop boop boop boop melody right to the BWAAAWRRMPTH BWAAAWRRMPTH BWAAAWRRMPTH BWAAAWRRMPTH!!! climax.

yeah I agree. Sail is a horrible tune and Armin is once again whoreing that screamy shitty sound which he also used in Serenity.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Thats funny, I feel the same way about your productions.

The only thing funny about that is that it has fuck all to do with anything.

Nice try, though.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery The only thing funny about that is that it has fuck all to do with anything. Nice try, though.

what makes you think that was a joke? You need to pull your head out of your ass and look at yourself before you call someone else's form of expression "shit".

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY what makes you think that was a joke? You need to pull your head out of your ass and look at yourself before you call someone else's form of expression "shit".

Did I say it was a joke? I said it has fuck all to do with anything.

Good thing you pulled out the "you can't comment unless you do it better" card, though, because we all know how valid that argument is.

Fuck off.

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Originally posted by aznpride69 Well the title says it all!!! it appears the scene really needs some speed... a "get up and go". to be honest trance really isnt even made anymore!

Without reading the whole thread:

It`s not trance that is dead, but that you are simply stuck in 1999 and didn`t move on while the rest of the world and music did.

So many styles and atrists out there - if you can`t find anything among this, then you simply don`t like trance anymore.

Don`t worry about it - it happens to a lot of people who only stay connected with the scene for a few years and then move back to pop/rock/Indy whatever they came from. Only very few people saty with this music for a long period.

EDIT: PS: If the word "dead" was searchable on TA (four letters...) you`d find a thread like yours every two weeks since years...

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Originally posted by Sir. Lunchalot Without reading the whole thread: It`s not trance that is dead, but that you are simply stuck in 1999 and didn`t move on while the rest of the world and music did. So many styles and atrists out there - if you can`t find anything among this, then you simply don`t like trance anymore. Don`t worry about it - it happens to a lot of people who only stay connected with the scene for a few years and then move back to pop/rock/Indy whatever they came from. Only very few people saty with this music for a long period. EDIT: PS: If the word "dead" was searchable on TA (four letters...) you`d find a thread like yours every two weeks since years...

I've had moments like that too, although now I just explore and enjoy other kinds of genres of all types of music, not just dance. But yeah, in a way, I still prefer the old trance to the new.

Here is an idea; stop posting here without reading the entire thread first. You're all just repeating whats already posted here. Just keep doing what the tradition is. Let the thread die and then make a new one in a couple of weeks. And then repeat what is already posted here. Yes, that makes sense.

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Originally posted by thomas btw. listening to: gatecrasher - wet cd2 atm.

Ah.. Gatecreasher Wet. Those were the good days! I actually got Scott Bond to sign my GC Wet vinyl while he was in town a couple weeks ago.

GC Wet. Summer 1999 hilights:
Lost Tribe - Gamemaster (Signum Remix)
Lustral - Everytime (Mike Koglin Remix)
Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (En Motion Mix)
Skyscraper - The Hymn (Mea Culpa Mix)
Blank & Jones - Cream (one of their only great tracks!)
Mea Culpa - The Child
Salt Tank - Pueblo Blanco (aka Leaving Town)
Chicane - Saltwater (Tomski vs Disco Citizens Remix)
Armin - Communication
Ron Hagen & Pascal M. - Take You There
Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday
Olmecheads - Spiritualized
Mauro Picotto - Pulsar (Picotto Tea Mix)

No wonder people went crazy for Trance then.

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Originally posted by Redd Here is an idea; stop posting here without reading the entire thread first. You're all just repeating whats already posted here.

Yes too much stuff has had to be said over and over. If you are one of the people who thinks the new trance is superb that's great. But as I said: When the hell are some people going to realize that just because you got Armin's new cd/radio show episode/track and love it and pump it loud and dance around your room and think it's the best ever does NOT mean that the trance scene is doing great!

I don't really care how the trance scene is in your room or how much you love ASOT, I care about the fact that trance is a bad word now more than it ever has been. The fact that trance nights are dropping like flies. The fact that I can't get anyone I know to come with me to check out the once in a blue moon trance event EVEN with me having guestlist for us. The fact that trance just does not get respect/support from so many people compared to how it was a few years ago.

I lost interest in 98% of the current productions and am nothing but excited about all the prog/breaks/electro I've been finding and playing since the shift since those styles are doing better than ever.

However, that doesn't change the fact that trance has been a huge part of my life and given me the most amazing experiences whether it was playing it for thousands of people, or enjoying it with a big crowd of people listening to someone else play. I have taken a lot from trance over the years. Having been around to experience it all right up in the driver's seat from 1995 through til now.. I've seen what's gone on and I'm just not okay with sitting back watching it anymore.

If you really like the music and maybe turn into a DJ one day, are you going to want a place to play at aside from your bedroom?

I WILL TAKE THE NEW TRANCE OVER THE OLD TRANCE ANY FUCKING DAY



leaving behing those cheezey days

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Originally posted by Salem I WILL TAKE THE NEW TRANCE OVER THE OLD TRANCE ANY FUCKING DAY leaving behing those cheezey days

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Originally posted by Salem I WILL TAKE THE NEW TRANCE OVER THE OLD TRANCE ANY FUCKING DAY leaving behing those cheezey days

yes.. and leave behind the huge crowd that actually loved & supported trance back then and weren't bored to death of it as well! Who needs em'. Who needs any place to go hear trance aside from your bedroom, car, or a trip to europe right?

there are 2 sides to the coin which are both crucial.

#1 the quality/magic etc of trance productions

#2 how well/stable/healthy the scene is doing and it's standing with the public

even if you think the first is not an issue because you either don't know any better or because you just happen to like where trance is at currently, there is still the second side which is going to dictate whether or not you'll be able to enjoy trance outside your own house/car or whether or not you'll have places to hope to play at if you become/are a DJ.

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Originally posted by Salem leaving behing those cheezey days

you don't know trance much, do you?

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Originally posted by Psy-T

LOL at vividboy's thread.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yeah I agree. Sail is a horrible tune and Armin is once again whoreing that screamy shitty sound which he also used in Serenity.

Indeed Sail is NOT a track which I would play in my car. Is OK, but nothing more than that. For sure not a favourite.


But Armin van Buuren feat. Racoon - Love you more is great.

So a small quiz question: In which classic trance track almost the same sample is used? (Or from which track did Armin borrow it?)

The sample is not exactly the same, but no doubt the sample comes from the classic track.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Indeed Sail is NOT a track which I would play in my car. Is OK, but nothing more than that. For sure not a favourite. But Armin van Buuren feat. Racoon - Love you more is great. So a small quiz question: In which classic trance track almost the same sample is used? (Or from which track did Armin borrow it?) The sample is not exactly the same, but no doubt the sample comes from the classic track.

LOL I thought it was almost worse than Sail. The vocals makes my ears bleed. And yeah it's pretty obvious that the melody is a lame copy off Paul van Dyk - For an angel.

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