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oh I was gonna ask whether or not the name change was related to how you handle that.

I thought maybe you were what i guess they call "stealth" as your old name, but now open with it.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle Pre-, though I'm not really living as a transsexual anymore, I'm living as a male again... it's a long story.

Change of mind or something to do with the hormone treatments?

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Originally posted by beats and beeps oh I was gonna ask whether or not the name change was related to how you handle that. I thought maybe you were what i guess they call "stealth" as your old name, but now open with it.

Yeah, I'm very open about it these days, I mean, it's hard not to be when living as a man with a female name, ah hah.

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Change of mind or something to do with the hormone treatments?

Both, pretty much, health reasons stopped the latter and I think that (and my physical ailments) led to the former.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle Both, pretty much, health reasons stopped the latter and I think that (and my physical ailments) led to the former.

Interesting. I will pry no further. I hope your health problems have cleared up or will so in short order and I hope you find peace in your exploration of your identity.

so wait if someone is a "transsexual" it means they are living as the sex that they physically aren't?

what about when they have the surgery and make a complete change to the other sex? still called a "transsexual"

also, what are u attracted to most? females/vagina or men/penises?

sorry im just really curiuos

lol I remeber asking you if you were a girl not to long ago and I was like wow this girl is really cool.

Once again it is proven that girls are not cool.

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Originally posted by chach lol I remeber asking you if you were a girl not to long ago and I was like wow this girl is really cool. Once again it is proven that girls are not cool.

wrong. im a girl and i'm cool

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Originally posted by Slylee wrong. im a girl and i'm cool

Your alright...

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Originally posted by Slylee so wait if someone is a "transsexual" it means they are living as the sex that they physically aren't?

From a genetic standpoint, yes. There's a lot of PC confusion over how gender is to be defined now.

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what about when they have the surgery and make a complete change to the other sex? still called a "transsexual"

Generally, yes.

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also, what are u attracted to most? females/vagina or men/penises?

Probably girls. I guess. Really manly girls. I used to lean towards guys when I was on female hormones. But I still look at a hot dude every now and then and am "Damn, that's some nice man". I'm married to a man.

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sorry im just really curiuos

S'fine. At one of my previously places of employment this older man was very curious and it was slightly awkward as it was a work environment but no big deal.

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Originally posted by Slylee so wait if someone is a "transsexual" it means they are living as the sex that they physically aren't? what about when they have the surgery and make a complete change to the other sex? still called a "transsexual"

A transexual is a person born of one sex living as a person of the opposite sex. Generally, transexuals are subdivided into two groups: pre-operative and post-operative. Pre-op transexuals will be living as a member of the sex opposite to that of their birth, however, have not had surgical intervention to alter their sexual organs. Usually they will be taking horomone therapy to make them appear more like the sex they are living as. Post-operative transexuals have undergone surgical intervention to alter their sexual organs. Generally, they will continue with horomone treatments as per pre-op.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle Female sexuality... days to live as a sort of inbetween.

Do you feel like helping me with a sociology paper on gender roles?

that was one of the most well written discourses i've read on it.

i bet im your type fast turtle. i act like a guy for the most part. lol



thanks for clearing up my confusion guys

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Originally posted by cheshirepk8 Do you feel like helping me with a sociology paper on gender roles? that was one of the most well written discourses i've read on it.

Uh, maybe? Haha. It's been a strange several years and there's been a lot of time to think, and really the genders can still be totally confusing to me.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle Men fight more of the wars and engender more of the competitive nature of humanity than women, and while this has led to all sorts of conflict, it's also a great source of the progress we've made as a species.

This argument has always bothered me a great deal because 'men' has always been a term associated with those who are in power and have the means to start and fight wars, so it becomes redundant to seperate the genders on this issue. You always hear pseudo-feminists argue that if women ruled the world there would be no wars, but if that were the case, then the whole definition of what a woman is wouldn't apply in the first place. We would instead have "post-women" assuming the roles males previousely had, and thus starting wars as well.

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Originally posted by Project-K This argument has always bothered me a great deal because 'men' has always been a term associated with those who are in power and have the means to start and fight wars, so it becomes redundant to seperate the genders on this issue. You always hear pseudo-feminists argue that if women ruled the world there would be no wars, but if that were the case, then the whole definition of what a woman is wouldn't apply in the first place. We would instead have "post-women" assuming the roles males previousely had, and thus starting wars as well.

Probably, but I would say there would be less wars -- conflict is inherent to anything competitive, and humans are inherently competitive. Women are just less likely to be violent statistically.

The fact that women are enjoying more power positions than they ever had in history is perhaps testament to their becoming more and more like men as time goes on. Or maybe men are becoming more womanly? Hah.

hahah are u kidding me? i would TOTALLY start a fucking war if someone pissed me off while i was pmsing.

but on the flipside, i'd probably just call them back the next day and be like, "nevermind, i'm sorry, that was uncalled for. wanna get together for lunch and pedicures?"

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle Probably, but I would say there would be less wars -- conflict is inherent to anything competitive, and humans are inherently competitive. Women are just less likely to be violent statistically.

of course they're less likely to be violent, but is that because of genetics or just because of the way society has conditioned them? Men are naturally more aggressive, but that's not to be confused with violence. It can translate into a great number of things. What I'm saying is that men don't start wars, people with power start wars.

Modern war and violence have less and less to do with one another, especially on a political level. Statistically, is a woman less likely to get into a regular bar-room brawl than a man? You bet. Statistically, is a women less likely to push a button or to order a couple thousand troops into a 3rd world country with the facade of peace but the ulterior goal of ascertaining natural resources as well as personal weapons contracts? So far.

girls are becoming more and more violent though just like they are becoming richer

in my high school there was 2 male fights last year
and tens of girl fist fights, of course most of the girl fist fights are uh...i dunno not on the same level as the male ones.

i also saw some video where these gangster kids go into this shop to rob it or whatever, and they punch out the store owner or whatever, but while the boys go off and rob the store, these two girls just keep beating the shit out of this asian guy behind the counter, and calling him names and shit, then they started working him with the fire extinguisher.

it was pretty disturbing, but yeah those girls must have been beaten up by guys a few times prior to this...

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Originally posted by Project-K of course they're less likely to be violent, but is that because of genetics or just because of the way society has conditioned them? Men are naturally more aggressive, but that's not to be confused with violence. It can translate into a great number of things. What I'm saying is that men don't start wars, people with power start wars.

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Modern war and violence have less and less to do with one another, especially on a political level. Statistically, is a woman less likely to get into a regular bar-room brawl than a man? You bet. Statistically, is a women less likely to push a button or to order a couple thousand troops into a 3rd world country with the facade of peace but the ulterior goal of ascertaining natural resources as well as personal weapons contracts? So far.

This is true. Time and progress will be the great revealer.

so i suppose a lot of people would say that women being more compassionate towards other human life and well being could be related to the whole "mother" instinct thing?

I mean they do give birth...that has to effect your mentality somehow...well maybe not. Its not like all women are good mothers.
/imma dumpsta baby

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Originally posted by beats and beeps so i suppose a lot of people would say that women being more compassionate towards other human life and well being could be related to the whole "mother" instinct thing? I mean they do give birth...that has to effect your mentality somehow...well maybe not. Its not like all women are good mothers.

Maybe? Giving birth yields many unique neurochemical effects, such as the release of oxytocin (a hormone that promotes trust and well-being) during breast feeding. I would lean towards the sex hormones themselves having some reasonable psychoactivity and modulatory effect on mood.

But it's hard to tell. I didn't receive much support from my sister, mother, father, or brothers when I told them I was a transsexual, and I've certainly been treated harshly by both genders at different times, so I'd more lean towards compassion being a not completely correct stereotype. It really depends on your minority and circumstances, too.

yeah definitely, i don't deny the psychological effects of hormones or anything, but i don't completely understand them either.

i know im pretty damn low in testosterone lol. or else it effects me differently...maybe testosterone causes me to troll ta instead of fap to hentai. maybe i just smoke too much weed (or is the weed effecting testosterone levels thing a myth?)

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Originally posted by beats and beeps yeah definitely, i don't deny the psychological effects of hormones or anything, but i don't completely understand them either. i know im pretty damn low in testosterone lol. or else it effects me differently...maybe testosterone causes me to troll ta instead of fap to hentai. maybe i just smoke too much weed (or is the weed effecting testosterone levels thing a myth?)

Probably not the pot,

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[Serum testosterone concentrations in cannabis and opiate users] [Article in German] Friedrich G, Nepita W, Andr� T. Institut f�r Rechtsmedizin, Universit�t Freiburg. The object of this study was to establish possible influences of long-term cannabis usage on plasma testosterone levels. The plasma testosterone levels of 66 male Pakistani who for years had smoked cannabis daily or drank cannabis regularly where measured after chronic and acute intake of the drug and compared with a material of 41 normal controls, i.e. persons who did not use cannabis. An evaluation of the results showed that there were no significant differences between the two groups. No influence of long-term cannabis usage on plasma testosterone levels was found. Furthermore we wished to find out wether long-term heroin abuse showed an effect on plasma testosterone levels. The concentrations of testosterone in the plasma of 102 heroin addicts assigned to a Methadone Program were measured and compared with the values of 29 male healthy students as controls. Plasma testosterone levels were found to be significantly decreased in heroin addicts as compared to controls.

Higher levels of testosterone correlate to more aggressive behaviour, but that's not true in all cases, just like smoking causes cancer in a lot of people but not all. One of my friends was the gayest meth user ever and was a very nice person despite being really fucking high a lot, and when he got his levels of testosterone tested it turned out he was high-normal. I also used to be extremely horny when I was younger, and when I got my testosterone levels checked (before I ever went on estrogen) they were low-normal.

i want to get my hormone levels tested.

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