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As long as you leave wrinkles in the surf board shit. Adds character.

Hey what happened to Theresa?

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Originally posted by jennypie Hey what happened to Theresa?

butt fucking

I actually thought the soundtrack was really good. Only disappointing thing was that they didn't include the Smashing Pumpkins song from the trailer.. but as someone said it was set in the 80s so they went with that.

I think there was a bit of irony in the music selection. Its nice when people include a bit of juxtaposition in soundtracks instead of just going "oh this moment in the movie is 'happy' so we must choose a 'happy' song to let people know to feel happy because this is the happy bit.. and a sad song here because this part is sad."



Sex scene was a bit long though... but she had a good body so I didn't care

bad movie.
Never read the novel, but Dr Manhatten never shows any form of compassion throughout the whole film, save for a smile from his human form. It's believable that he may have maintained a relationship with his ex-girlfriend after the accident, but its hard to take the relationship with Silk Spectre seriously. Manhatten is a block of cheese and its hard to believe that their emotional attachments would inevitably save the world. The relationship conflicts of King Kong(2005) to Darrow and Driscow are more believable.

Everything with Night Owl and Silk Spectre was just stupid. The acting and the dialogue were just horrible with these two characters. The scene where they save the kids from the burning building is USELESS. I wanted to walk out during the prison scene when these two showed up. And from there on, it was just painful to even think they were about to engage in more screen time. Replace the actors and flip the script around, maybe it would have turned out to be bearable.

The scene with Manhatten and the gangsters was straight up Tetsuo (Akira). The guys explode and their guts all over the wall.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit bad movie. Never read the novel, but Dr Manhatten never shows any form of compassion throughout the whole film, save for a smile from his human form. It's believable that he may have maintained a relationship with his ex-girlfriend after the accident, but its hard to take the relationship with Silk Spectre seriously. Manhatten is a block of cheese and its hard to believe that their emotional attachments would inevitably save the world.

I think the idea is that as he becomes more powerful, omniscient and "godlike" he becomes more and more detached from humanity. the relationship with silk spectre is his last attempt at being human. What saved the world is his eventual decision that life is a worthwhile concept and different to other matter that fills the universe.

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Originally posted by astroboy I think the idea is that as he becomes more powerful, omniscient and "godlike" he becomes more and more detached from humanity. the relationship with silk spectre is his last attempt at being human. What saved the world is his eventual decision that life is a worthwhile concept and different to other matter that fills the universe.

Why doesn't everyone else get this? Does it not come through in the movie?

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit Everything with Night Owl and Silk Spectre was just stupid. The acting and the dialogue were just horrible with these two characters. The scene where they save the kids from the burning building is USELESS. I wanted to walk out during the prison scene when these two showed up. And from there on, it was just painful to even think they were about to engage in more screen time. Replace the actors and flip the script around, maybe it would have turned out to be bearable.

I agree, throwing out the two characters meant to symbolize the rediscovery of humanity as well as oneself and ultimate forgiveness would have added a ton. They could have replaced them with some people doing some really awesome half pipe skateboarding or maybe some other extreme sports.

I didn't like the acting of Silk Spectre, (although I thought the Owl was done very well) however she had a pretty important role in the film.

Here's a spanner thrown in the cogs: my housemate has read the original, and what's more he's writing his dissertation on it, which means he probably knows more about it than any self-proclaimed Watchmen fan here. And he's just come back from watching it and thinks it's shit.

Yeah but my dad can beat up your dad.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Here's a spanner thrown in the cogs: my housemate has read the original, and what's more he's writing his dissertation on it, which means he probably knows more about it than any self-proclaimed Watchmen fan here. And he's just come back from watching it and thinks it's shit.

Doesn't mean his dissertation is any good.

I really didn;t like it all that much. I loved the prison sequences though. the sex scene was awful and corny.

Anyone who says it stuck to the original comics is talking out their arse. it may have looked a lot like to comic with a few updates, the entire crux of the movie was that a monster destroyed the city rather than the it was made to look like Jon's fault.
Correct me if i'm wrong but that basically changes the whole entire fuckin plot and outcome of the movie.

The movie could have been a shitload better if they had given it to a good director. 300 was fucking trash with a shitty ending too.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan Anyone who says it stuck to the original comics is talking out their arse. it may have looked a lot like to comic with a few updates, the entire crux of the movie was that a monster destroyed the city rather than the it was made to look like Jon's fault. Correct me if i'm wrong but that basically changes the whole entire fuckin plot and outcome of the movie.

That's not true at all.

The effect and overall devastation the 4th dimensional being had on the country was still in place.


SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!


Personally it made more sense that Jon was forced to leave opposed to him choosing to leave after seeing Dan and Laurie have sex which mind you took place after millions died along with Rorschach let alone in Adrian's fortress who they all just infiltrated to take down it was all very awkward and didn't make much sense given the height of emotions that was reached during the last chapter.

I loved the squid in the graphic novel because you have time to go back and see the visuals and truly take in what just happened but I don't think it works as well in a movie.

What the 4th Dimensional Being represented was still their it was just replaced with something that again in my opinion made more sense. It was more believable Jon would leave for the better of mankind instead of Laurie throwing all of her feelings for him out the window after she just convinced him to come back for her after an extremely emotional conversation on Mars then Jon leaving.

At the end of the day Veidt still managed to bring the world together and capitalizes off of it financially. Dan and Laurie still end up with each other. Manhattan leaves and Rorschach is dead.

Doesn't seems like much has changed.

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Originally posted by jennypie Hey what happened to Theresa?

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Originally posted by Clovis butt fucking

+1

Surprisingly, I have a life, but not necessarily a good one. It pretty much consists of homework, studying, and sleep.

I thought it was the best movie I'v seen for at least a year.

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Originally posted by Krypton I thought it was the best movie I'v seen for at least a year.

L

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Originally posted by daft_max L

You make a good point.

Brilliant post.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Here's a spanner thrown in the cogs: my housemate has read the original, and what's more he's writing his dissertation on it, which means he probably knows more about it than any self-proclaimed Watchmen fan here. And he's just come back from watching it and thinks it's shit.

I think that probably pushes him into the realm of having so much time and energy invested into the original that absolutely nothing would be able to meet his expectations.

I couldn't get a decent opinion...there was too much giant blue penis for me to focus on anything.

The only thing that bothered me about the different ending was the movie leaving out the conversation between Veidt and John. Needed to be said imo.

Veidt was hot...I wouldn't kick him out of bed. :B

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Originally posted by bas The only thing that bothered me about the different ending was the movie leaving out the conversation between Veidt and John. Needed to be said imo.

I agree.

Considering how Goode played the character I felt like that last conversation would've added so much to what was already going on.

"I did the right thing didn't I?"

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I think that probably pushes him into the realm of having so much time and energy invested into the original that absolutely nothing would be able to meet his expectations.

I doubt that, since his dissertation looks at other graphic novels from the 80s such as Maus and The Dark Knight Returns and the shift they brought about in the industry. My point is that absolutely nobody could accuse him of not "getting" the film, and he's a smart enough guy with enough knowledge and taste in films and graphic novels to make a judgement I trust over most of the people who've posted in this thread.

Of course, I'm not making an appeal to authority here. I merely want to quash this stupid notion some people have in this thread that anyone who dislikes the film has automatically failed to understand it. It's a typical geek reaction that the only reason anyone could dislike something they treasure is down to not understanding it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I merely want to quash this stupid notion some people have in this thread that anyone who dislikes the film has automatically failed to understand it.

Fair enough, and I'll have to agree with you on that. But it's quite obvious that 90% of the reviews coming out (including everyone in this thread) stating reasons why they didn't like the film are simply because they didn't understand the entire concept behind the book in the first place.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I doubt that, since his dissertation looks at other graphic novels from the 80s such as Maus and The Dark Knight Returns and the shift they brought about in the industry. My point is that absolutely nobody could accuse him of not "getting" the film, and he's a smart enough guy with enough knowledge and taste in films and graphic novels to make a judgement I trust over most of the people who've posted in this thread. Of course, I'm not making an appeal to authority here. I merely want to quash this stupid notion some people have in this thread that anyone who dislikes the film has automatically failed to understand it. It's a typical geek reaction that the only reason anyone could dislike something they treasure is down to not understanding it.

No problem. I guess my question would be; what did he not like about it, what would have made it better? What does he think of other graphic novels that have been made into movies or television programs?

And as was said before...I'm not saying people should like this movie or they're "dumb." I'm trying to say that this is not meant to be a "comic book movie," and not liking it because of that is silly. It's like walking out of a drama pissed off because it didn't make you laugh.

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