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Originally posted by Zild you have no idea how many people i know who used to be science majors who are now liberal arts/communications grads.

I'm always annoyed by people who start one degree, then cancel it and start another... and da capo a few times.
OK, it's possible to realize that you've chosen the wrong one after one semester, but I'm more under the impression that lots of people don't give this enough tought and just study something, what their friends do, what they think is cool or whatever they can with their graduation.

I was about 3 semesters shy of a philosophy degree when I decided to switch majors. Hate that all you want, but I wanted to actually get something from my time and money.

Well, switching from philosophy is different of course.
But seriously, don't you regret the time you lost pursuing that first degree?

Not really as I was enjoying myself, and it does give me a good perspective on bullshitting.

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Originally posted by PETRAN I disagree, some philosophy is quite difficult to understand due to the extreme abstract reasoning involved, try reading Heidegger, or Whitehead, oreven some ancient greek philosopher like Epicurus or Aristotle. It can get very difficult to understand and ifyou trully master it, you can develope extremely good reasoning skills. True, the "Hard sciences" can be very difficult but they don't make you more clever no matter what.

Oh, I know that. I've studied critical theory which involves a lot of philosophy and some of it really makes your head ache. The same is true of the more advanced semiotics theory you study in literature. There are parts of philosophy/theory that I've found as challenging as any mathematics.

I don't think you get what I mean by "blag" though. What I mean is that it's possible for stupid people to do quite well simply through talking the talk, or bluffing. I think philosophy can be very challenging, but I think it can be a soft option where you can get away with things you just couldn't in a science or mathematics degree.

Oh that's what blaggable means? I completely agree with you then.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't think you get what I mean by "blag" though. What I mean is that it's possible for stupid people to do quite well simply through talking the talk, or bluffing. I think philosophy can be very challenging, but I think it can be a soft option where you can get away with things you just couldn't in a science or mathematics degree.

That's pretty much how I feel about architecture, after completing my degree in it. There are two sides to the field - one is extremely 'blaggable', the other is rather practical and potentially socially beneficial.

My school in particular was full of shit because it's sat in the #1 spot for years and the faculty that it has attracted are all elect members of what amounts to a self-congratulatory cult of deconstructive architecture. On top of that, as an ivy-league school, there is the potential for stupid people to do well because their parents donate to the school. (i went on scholarship)

I became quite disillusioned with the environment but eventually found my personal niche.

Contemporary architecture in general tends to bastardize pretty much any other field that it can get its filthy hands on. You will hear more bullshit come out of architects' mouths in school than anywhere else, for the sake of justifying their puerile fingerings in the darkness - pathetic attempts at masking the limits of their own creativity.

however besides the 'blag', there is a genuine opportunity for creative expression, theory of art and creativity, and 'useful' physical learning such as mechanics, fluid dynamics, materials science, real estate, etc...

so i consider my education pretty well-rounded. also, i went to a school (cornell university) that offers a lot of other studies, so i was able to supplement my education with classes in art history, archaeology, linguistics, electroacoustics, higher mathematics/compsci, and various language classes.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel This would be the equivalent to our Journalism or Communications degrees. Yes, this has the same connotation. That it is basically a lazy approach to getting a degree basically.

Is not. IT's still 4 years of a lot of work, interning and late nights at school. Shut your face.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Is not. IT's still 4 years of a lot of work, interning and late nights at school. Shut your face.

What do you know?! Women don't study, all they do is color things and underline text.

Shit.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Is not. IT's still 4 years of a lot of work, interning and late nights at school. Shut your face.

In the US it is. Maybe not there, but here it is. I can't tell you how many people, men and women alike, I have seen get through this shit without much effort.

I am getting a philosophy degree on Saturday, which I suppose means that I "blagged" my way through school and took the easy way out, being too stupid to deal with math or the hard sciences. LOL.

That's how a business degree is. When anyone says they have a BA in business we're all like WOW! you REALLY tried hard, huh.

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Originally posted by squirrelly That's how a business degree is. When anyone says they have a BA in business we're all like WOW! you REALLY tried hard, huh.

And Psychology too.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel And Psychology too.

I suppose so. Although I rather think that if you are going into the field of Psychology with the intention of discovery is one thing, and going in with the intention of simply "advising" is another.

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Originally posted by squirrelly I suppose so. Although I rather think that if you are going into the field of Psychology with the intention of discovery is one thing, and going in with the intention of simply "advising" is another.

The problem is that a lot of people just do it because it is cake. No other reason. They just want to say they have a degree.

Correct. When people go to 'career' schools and get a business degree, I think you're spending so much money, to get a degree that gets you nowhere! Even if you have a BA in business and say you want to work as a manager for a retail store, you STILL have to start off at the bottom, just like everyone else.

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Originally posted by squirrelly Correct. When people go to 'career' schools and get a business degree, I think you're spending so much money, to get a degree that gets you nowhere! Even if you have a BA in business and say you want to work as a manager for a retail store, you STILL have to start off at the bottom, just like everyone else.

Yeah, but sadly, this is the US where you aren't reminded of this till you fall flat on your face.

This is the place where they tell you primary school prepares you for secondary school. That secondary prepares you for post-secondary. Such bullshit from start to finish. Neither prepare you for either.

I get to check the bubble that says some college

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Originally posted by squirrelly That's how a business degree is. When anyone says they have a BS in business we're all like WOW! you REALLY tried hard, huh.

I love all you fuckin' nerds.

I am the smartest man alive.

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Originally posted by Domesticated I am the smartest man alive.

It's too hot for a penguin.

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Originally posted by jennypie I love all you fuckin' nerds.

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