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Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-23-2009 20:00:

This was my first time at Circus and I have t day I was seriously impressed. I had a great (if short) time there last night!!!

Firstly the crowd was the most diverse I've seen in a club in la - all nationalities, some very casual, other dressed to impressed - but all up for it and no attitude, just there to have a great time.

The club was waaaaay larger than I thought it would be - the main floor is easily comparable to Vanguard's and the setup was well thought out, loads of bars and nice clean toilets.

The outside area is great and good to chill out and agin you can see they really made an effort with everything from the staff to the decor.

Some parts of the club were a little bit shabby but I've yet to find a club in LA that doesn't a have a little shabby somewhere - overall really good and and again you can see they're really making an effort, which isn't easy with a warehouse type space - props to the management for such a good job.

The only two downsides were:

The soundsystem (1) and Norin and Rad (2),

(1) Being a professional sound engineer, I'm more picky than the average person, but even so, I have to say it does not sound great in there at all. The system has muddy mid range, a low bass rumble in place of deep bass and the highs were OK but got harsh whenever accented by the DJ. I think Norin and Rad deserve some of the blame because I've got a feeling they were redlining a Pioneer mixer (which is never, ever a good idea) and they kept doing high sweep effects which on that system just sounds harsh and painful. Dj's should learn their environment and play accordingly.

I personally love Funktion1 systems but in there it wouldn't work becuase the space is acoustically cold - but a Turbosound system would be perfect to warm things up in that space without being sharp. Please, if there's any way you can, think about doing something to the system in there. I know it;s not as easy as that as systems aren't cheap, but borrow one for a night (free) as a potential buyer and I promise the difference will be incredible.

(2) Even though they (he) didn't mix badly (they were NOT trainwrecking) they were not as good as the hype I;ve seen on here. I say he, becuase one seemed to do all the mixing and the other just danced around him and I have to say I've never seen more jesus posing in my life. I was sure he was going to air guitar at some point. They had good energy but I was just over the top for the time of night and they didn't really build a flow or create a warmup for Steve in any sense.


Overall this was a great night, Steve played very well and I love the effort that you can see the club has made - I don't think anyone is going to this much trouble to make the experience unique.

Circus is giving the two other LA clubs some serious competition.

Trin - thanks again - we tried to find you but didn't see you


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-23-2009 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by alpha.wav
My favorite part of the night was when the glowsticks were thrown at the crowd!!! Actually me and in2muzikk were looking at the main stage from above, close to where the VIP section is at. It was just amazing to see all the people on the dance floor pick up the glowsticks and move to the beat. THE GLOW-STICK THROWING THING WAS A GREAT IDEA!!!

...

Now....when are those CIRCUS T-Shirts getting made? I want a Medium.


It was funny watching everyone scramble for the glowsticks. A lot of people got 2 different colors and were looking around to trade. But yeah, it was a very creative idea.

Tshirts!


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-23-2009 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by babygodzilla
greaaatt tiimmeeeee last niteeee!! it was like a mini rave haha awesome! i can't believe he played Made of Love.. too awesome


I definitely love how liberal Circus is. Come as you are, bring whatever you want, just don't cause trouble.


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-23-2009 20:42:

Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by etazbaz
Thrillseekers was great but the two guys before him were terrible. Every time they "mixed" the crowd would stop dancing either because they were wrecking, weren't mixing harmonically or simply because there wasn't any rhythm to their set. I don't mean to be hating but I expect better talent for $35. I miss the days when spundae organized the events. There is more to djing than just waving your hands in the air trying to amp the crowd.


It's interesting how two people can go to the same event and come away with two completely different opinions.

I thought Norin & Rad did a great job and kept the energy level pretty high. To me, it seemed that the crowd was having a great time. Although I should point out that (1) I was near the stage most of the night, where people likely are going to be dancing and cheering more frequently than in the rest of the club and (2) I visited Ernesto a couple times during the night.


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-23-2009 20:50:

Re: Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
It's interesting how two people can go to the same event and come away with two completely different opinions.



quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
The only two downsides were:

....and Norin and Rad (2),

.....(2) Even though they (he) didn't mix badly (they were NOT trainwrecking) they were not as good as the hype I;ve seen on here. I say he, becuase one seemed to do all the mixing and the other just danced around him and I have to say I've never seen more jesus posing in my life. I was sure he was going to air guitar at some point. They had good energy but I was just over the top for the time of night and they didn't really build a flow or create a warmup for Steve in any sense.



If you were at the front that meant you were and would have been in the thick of the ravers, so I can imagine how you'd had a good experience from the moment you got on to the floor.


Posted by alpha.wav on Aug-23-2009 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
The soundsystem (1) and Norin and Rad (2),


I have to respectfully disagree with both of your points.

(1) I think the sound system is great and doesn't need to be changed AT ALL, just properly tuned and maintained (which it is, I saw someone working with the main rooms sound system when Norin and Rad were on @ about 10:30PM when I got there). In fact, IMO, not as a professional sound engineer, but a long-time clubber, the sounds system is awesome. I can hear good highs, mids, and lows. I can hear the mixes well and I can hear the dj's play with the mixer(like when they cut the bass, etc). It's not harsh AT ALL, it has good sound dynamics (IMO). Also, and most importantly, its one of the only club systems in LA where I can go in without ear plugs, and not blow my eardrums. I think if you ask the majority of people dancing (which I did), they will say it sounds good in the main room (which they did).

(2) I was LOL at the person who said they were "trainwrecking", I didn't hear them trainwreck! You know these guys are relatively new to the scene, I think, and they play some good trance music, I was surprised when I first heard them! As far as the "only one guy" thing, I think they are a team, and if you would take the time to talk to them (as I did) you would be surprised who taught who how to mix...and whatnot, and how they work together.

You know I think sometimes people look too closely at djs (especially us who also dj). I was like that too, but I would suggest to just let go and dance. I think I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you can do better with trance please do what you need to do to get up in that DJ booth, WE ALL WANT TO SEE YOU KEEP THE MIX ROCKIN!

Peace -

alpha.wav


Posted by alpha.wav on Aug-23-2009 21:33:

Talking

sorry for the double post but I'd just like to add :

I got in about 10 seconds of talking with Steve (The Thrillseekers). I was able to ask him why he's teaching people how to make trance. (I don't know if you guys know, but earlier this year he started an amazing "how to" segment on his youtube channel, check it out at :

http://www.youtube.com/user/thrilltube

then click on -> "In the Studio With The Thrillseekers"

He told me that he's doing a "call to arms" to all trance/edm lovers to try to produce, and not be afraid of the results. He said he's planning (at the end of the youtube series) to get people to send him what they've made. This guy is not only a legend in Trance, and a really nice guy, he also really wants to leave a positive legacy and make the scene grow.

I really love him for that!


Posted by RPT on Aug-23-2009 22:20:

Another great night, thanks Circus! There were many great moments last night. Norin and Rad are getting better and better IMO, and are really nice guys. I wish them success. I had no idea how much Energy Steve brings, very nice to see. He was dancin, sweatin, lovin it for 2 straight hours. I loved his set. We got a chance to go on stage and it was cool to see what the crowd looks like below, and to watch a top notch dj spin. Good memory there for sure.

Ernesto makes it happen upstairs and the tacos hit the spot close to 2 AM. The crowd is pretty cool there, a lot better than Vanguard. The personnel is much better too IMO, and the staff doesnt act like they are Gods gift to the world.

People are in for a real treat with Richard Durand and D Candi, as well as many others comin up. Keep up the good work Circus, and next time we would like to meet and talk longer to you TA's, its just hard to get off the floor!!!


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-23-2009 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by alpha.wav
sorry for the double post but I'd just like to add :

I got in about 10 seconds of talking with Steve (The Thrillseekers). I was able to ask him why he's teaching people how to make trance. (I don't know if you guys know, but earlier this year he started an amazing "how to" segment on his youtube channel, check it out at :

http://www.youtube.com/user/thrilltube

then click on -> "In the Studio With The Thrillseekers"


Thanks for the link. I've been thinking about trying my hand at making EDM but still have A LOT to learn.


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-23-2009 22:33:

Re: Re: Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
If you were at the front that meant you were and would have been in the thick of the ravers, so I can imagine how you'd had a good experience from the moment you got on to the floor.


Now now... I only was buzzed/drunk for part of the night.


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-23-2009 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by alpha.wav
(1) I think the sound system is great and doesn't need to be changed AT ALL, just properly tuned and maintained (which it is, I saw someone working with the main rooms sound system when Norin and Rad were on @ about 10:30PM when I got there). In fact, IMO, not as a professional sound engineer, but a long-time clubber, the sounds system is awesome. I can hear good highs, mids, and lows. I can hear the mixes well and I can hear the dj's play with the mixer(like when they cut the bass, etc). It's not harsh AT ALL, it has good sound dynamics (IMO). Also, and most importantly, its one of the only club systems in LA where I can go in without ear plugs, and not blow my eardrums. I think if you ask the majority of people dancing (which I did), they will say it sounds good in the main room (which they did).


I felt that the sound was much easier on the ears than on August 1st with Andy Moor. But I still needed to wear earplugs for much of the night. Of course, this likely is partly due to me being in the front almost continuously during 10pm-1am.


Posted by in2muzikk on Aug-23-2009 22:59:

WOW WOW WOW!!!! What an amazing night at Circus!

The visuals reminded me of Tiesto in Concert and Armin NYE, awesome new LED wall and multi-color lasers! Norin & Rad again played an excellent set, some of my friends were saying that the music was so good they kinda felt sorry for Steve who was coming on next...and judging by all the people dancing and having a good time, I think a lot of people agreed! They had me on the floor from their second track and played some brilliant tracks with so much energy, looking forward to next time which I'm sure will be soon!

Solid set by Steve too, I kinda lost track of the night from there though, was in and out chatting with friends but I know the music was good.

quote:
Originally posted by alpha.wav
sorry for the double post but I'd just like to add :

I got in about 10 seconds of talking with Steve (The Thrillseekers). I was able to ask him why he's teaching people how to make trance. (I don't know if you guys know, but earlier this year he started an amazing "how to" segment on his youtube channel, check it out at :

http://www.youtube.com/user/thrilltube

then click on -> "In the Studio With The Thrillseekers"

He told me that he's doing a "call to arms" to all trance/edm lovers to try to produce, and not be afraid of the results. He said he's planning (at the end of the youtube series) to get people to send him what they've made. This guy is not only a legend in Trance, and a really nice guy, he also really wants to leave a positive legacy and make the scene grow.

I really love him for that!



I really give Steve (Thrillseekers) a lot of credit for coming up with these "how to" videos, really inspires someone like me to get going and give it a try! Steve Helstrip for President, err, I mean Prime Minister! Man, it got kind of crazy up on stage after he finished, I have the pics to prove it an will sell them to the highest bidder!

I know that a lot of effort went into this event, so many thanks to the Circus team for making a night like this possible!

















More pix HERE


Posted by in2muzikk on Aug-23-2009 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by RPT
The personnel is much better too IMO, and the staff doesnt act like they are Gods gift to the world.


Even though they are!


Posted by DaveT on Aug-24-2009 00:20:

Re: Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by modthispny
really? i personally think norin and rad are very good dj's and i've heard nothing but great things about them too.


If there's one thing I've learned on TA...is that they will say local DJs and all that are great no matter how good they really are. I'm not saying they are always wrong, but I can't even remember the # times I've seen an opener mix poorly, play with no direction or flow, etc etc...and everyone comes on here and makes them the highlight of the night.

Personally, I wish I could be impressed so easily like that. I would prob have had a ton more full-nights of fun instead of just wishing time would go by faster to get to the headliner!

This all said, I have no clue if Norin & Rad are good or not. I have not heard them in person. I'm just saying that it's really hard to get a good feel of how good some locals are going by what's said on TA.


Posted by alpha.wav on Aug-24-2009 00:22:

Dog Running VIDEOS FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET

Nolin & Rad (sounds like some clean, on-key mixing to me)



The Thrillseekers (2nd floor view, now, THIS IS A TRANCE CLUB PARTY!!!)



Have you guys ever heard that saying... "The proof is in the pudding?" sorry for the short vids


Posted by nguyentony75 on Aug-24-2009 00:44:

It's time to get this party started in TA. Dave T man man man I was waiting for you to say some thing. I bet Johnny that you could not keep out even though you didn't go. As for the other Gentle you have good points about the sound but we are still working on it. As far as Norin and Rad, I know djs judge each other a lot harder than customer. But its your opion. Who know what they say when you djs. As far as the old spundae djs, I am sorry to say if they were so good, wouldn't you think the crowd would be over there. Not to mean disrespectful. But that some thing to think about. I swear I saw the whole spundae crew at circus. Haha lol but, hey I got love for every one. I am glad you like the show. That was my main concern. Djs, well I better buy a mixer so I can dj too. Lol. But thank for coming out good or bad. Oh by the way I sat and listern to Trance for 1 hour. Oh my god that was the first. I was dancing too. Not bad TAs, not Bad at all.
Love Music Dance


Posted by DaveT on Aug-24-2009 01:02:

I didn't say one negative thing about the night, so!

I just said that locals get overhyped on here sometimes. And that's true.


Posted by nguyentony75 on Aug-24-2009 01:14:

Monkey Dancer 2

I got nothing but love for you dave. You know I am just kidding with you right.


quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
I didn't say one negative thing about the night, so!

I just said that locals get overhyped on here sometimes. And that's true.


Posted by in2muzikk on Aug-24-2009 01:16:

Yeah, we need Randy, Simon & Paula up there with a toll-free number so that America can decide whether the DJ's are good. The acid test for DJ's is whether they keep coming back...if a crowd enjoys their music and they do well, it will happen...over and over. Ten, twenty people, or whatever, can give their opinions here and they will most always be different. It's when you keep hearing good things week to week, month to month, year to year that DJ's build their reputation.


I had never heard of Norin & Rad before their last few sets at Circus...Both are 21, I believe, so they don't have the advantage of being out in the clubs a long time yet. Time will tell, but so far I think things are looking very good! I rank them right up there with my favorite locals such as Kristina Sky, Gil, and Cowboy Mike. Speaking of Cowboy Mike, he should come back to Circus soon...he packed the floor early last time with a great set of progressive Trance/House/Techno that flowed so well, it was like a time-warp into the next DJ set!

Another Norin & Rad video, from my camera that takes some of the best pics and video along with the worst audio. I normally put an earplug over the mic when taking videos, but I had a drink in my other hand and wanted to capture the song...



Posted by belagio11 on Aug-24-2009 02:09:

I was happy when Steve (Thrillseekers) got on. Overall it was a great night however the duo that opened were terrible. Please find better warmup djs.. I almost left with my group of 4, good thing we stayed because the thrillseekers really put on a killer set!


Posted by belagio11 on Aug-24-2009 02:13:

Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by etazbaz
Thrillseekers was great but the two guys before him were terrible. Every time they "mixed" the crowd would stop dancing either because they were wrecking, weren't mixing harmonically or simply because there wasn't any rhythm to their set. I don't mean to be hating but I expect better talent for $35. I miss the days when spundae organized the events. There is more to djing than just waving your hands in the air trying to amp the crowd.


I agree. If I am paying $35, it should be a solid lineup/solid sets throughout the whole night


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-24-2009 02:31:

Re: VIDEOS FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET

quote:
Originally posted by alpha.wav
The Thrillseekers (2nd floor view, now, THIS IS A TRANCE CLUB PARTY!!!)



Have you guys ever heard that saying... "The proof is in the pudding?" sorry for the short vids


It looks like that video was shot right when The Thrillseekers came on. I was on the ground floor most of the night and didn't get a chance to see the sea of glow sticks. Crazy.


Posted by Apeattack on Aug-24-2009 02:36:

Re: Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by belagio11
I agree. If I am paying $35, it should be a solid lineup/solid sets throughout the whole night


You could have come before 11pm with a flyer or bought presale tix and saved some money


Posted by nguyentony75 on Aug-24-2009 03:05:

Dunno Re: Re: Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

You are right, I think we are the cheapest door ticket in hollywood. $10 before 10pm. Presale tickets $10 and $20 with flyer before 11pm. That is dam cheap for a concert led,laser light show. Lol come early than!! Isn't that right apeattack. You go!! Sir hahah lol or buy online.


quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
You could have come before 11pm with a flyer or bought presale tix and saved some money


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-24-2009 03:18:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Circus needs to get better DJs to warm up the crowd

quote:
Originally posted by nguyentony75
You are right, I think we are the cheapest door ticket in hollywood. $10 before 10pm. Presale tickets $10 and $20 with flyer before 11pm. That dam cheap for a concert show. Lol come early than right apeattack. You go!! Sir hahah lol


That's exactly what I did - got there at a lucky 10:55pm and walked straight in. By 12pm it was packed and that hour just flew past.


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