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Posted by Amduscias on Oct-16-2009 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
find a guy who i would actually consider reproducing with.


... Rob?


Posted by Slylee on Oct-16-2009 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
there's a lot of bullshit in this thread. i understand some people choose not to have children because of their career or they like to spend their life traveling ect. but not because kids are brats that shit themselves and have public temper tantrums. that cannot be the only reasons you do not want to have a kid. I don't know what kind of kids some of you idiots have been watching but if you actually raise your child with respect, disapline, consistancy and a shit load of love, they actually turn out pretty decent. It doesn't take rocket science to do this. I have seen some horrific parents, and some pretty ridiculous children as a result, but for every fucked up family i know 10 families that were able to parent and raise their kids sucessfully.

yukki it sounds like your big fear of children is you're afraid they will turn out like you. and i suppose that is legitimate.


first off, congrats on being preggers i didn't know and pretty much agree with this whole post.

my mom's best friend is a perfect example. she never let her kids have computers in their rooms and TVs and shit and they didn't get cell phones until they started high school and they share a car (she has a boy and girl only a year apart). they are super cool kids and i've known and babysat them since they were infants. it's really hard to raise a kid in south florida but she really stuck to her guns on things like the computers and cell phones and she always had them involved in karate or dance or whatever they expressed an interest in. the boy is super smart and has a great personality and wants to be a marine biologist.

anyway my point is, you're right. there ARE great parents out there who know what the fuck they are doing and it's up to you how your children are going to act, that's the bottom line. i mean unless you give birth to a jeffrey dalmer lol. parenting is just common sense and time management skills and selflessness...and i dont mean the kind where u just bust out your wallet and buy them whatever they want. it's about sacrificing your own time and needs to make sure the proper needs of your children are met, whether they agree with them or not.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-16-2009 21:06:

P.S. I want wiener to be my mom.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-16-2009 21:07:

i want weiner's daughter lol


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-16-2009 21:09:

Perfect, you take little wiener, and then big wiener can be my mom.


Posted by Amduscias on Oct-16-2009 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i want weiner's daughter lol


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Oct-16-2009 21:11:

thanks! and i'm keeping the pregnancy on the down-low.. i'm only 7 weeks along and i could still loose it (probably not) so don't write anything on my facebook! i should also maybe mention that before i had my first kid i was pretty selfish and immature, but i made a decision to be a good parent and so i put myself second to her and i've grown up alot in the process.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-16-2009 21:16:

i'm sure everything will be fine but i wont say anything. i hope you get a boy!


Posted by nekholm on Oct-16-2009 21:16:

Sure, but not just yet. My girlfriend is bugging me about it all the time though, "when are we gonna have children, huh huh huh+?"?". I'm 25, I don't wanna be a dad yet. But I'm thinking before I'm 30.


Posted by HardTranceProd on Oct-16-2009 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Amduscias
... Rob?


yeah, what happened to that guy? I miss his constant insults haha... NOT


Posted by Amduscias on Oct-16-2009 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
yeah, what happened to that guy? I miss his constant insults haha... NOT
Well he posted his latest set but i havent seen him in the c0r in a while

and i find it weird myra said that.. i thought they were married


Posted by Cloudburst on Oct-17-2009 00:00:

lol yet this again


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-17-2009 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
1) my closest girlfriend got knocked up
2) i held and fed an infant for the first time in my adult life (this totally blew my mind and i had warm fuzzies for about 4 days afterwards)
3) i realized i'm almost 26 and i am thinking more seriously/realistically about things like marriage and babies


So social pressure, hormones, and social pressure?

Those are terrible reasons to have a kid. Reconsider.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-17-2009 00:07:

no arbiter it's more like

1. someone she is very close with got pregnant so she got to see firsthand the experience of being pregnant

2. new experience and liking it

3. maturing





stop being a robot.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-17-2009 00:08:

arbiter you should be a navy seal. you're completely cut out for it. or a spy.





*edit* no wait....a hitman!


Posted by Amduscias on Oct-17-2009 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
arbiter you should be a navy seal. you're completely cut out for it. or a spy.





*edit* no wait....a hitman!
amazing


-hides from lira-


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-17-2009 00:19:

Thanks Slylee but I already understood her underlying rationalizations from her earlier post.

As for your other ideas: I'm a person who can't take orders. My reaction to being bossed around is generally to play along and then betray the would-be boss at the most sensitive possible moment. I'm pretty sure that makes me a bad fit for the military.

Hitman isn't a bad choice, though. I could see myself doing that.


Posted by Fledz on Oct-17-2009 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Amduscias
amazing


-hides from lira-

It's ok, I've got your coffee right here.


Posted by Amduscias on Oct-17-2009 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
It's ok, I've got your coffee right here.
Noooooo


Posted by Slylee on Oct-17-2009 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Thanks Slylee but I already understood her underlying rationalizations from her earlier post.

As for your other ideas: I'm a person who can't take orders. My reaction to being bossed around is generally to play along and then betray the would-be boss at the most sensitive possible moment. I'm pretty sure that makes me a bad fit for the military.

Hitman isn't a bad choice, though. I could see myself doing that.



lol WEIRDO!


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-17-2009 02:29:

I think the way kids turn out has more to do with genes than anything else, assuming the parents don't screw up in a really extreme way (malnourishment, abuse, etc.).


Posted by Lira on Oct-17-2009 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
It's ok, I've got your coffee right here.


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-17-2009 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I'm not sure. Kids love me, and I like them too. But, is life something I'd wish to someone else? Would I want to raise a child? I think I may end up adopting a child that is already in this mess we call world, rather than spawning a couple of brats to replace myself.
/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
I'd rather much adopt a needy child.


+1

I don't think I will have kids naturally, but there is a possibility that I may adopt one day.

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
All children are needy... why not have one with your own genes rather than some creepy outsider when you have little to no knowledge of their genetic and medical family history? Shit man... last thing you want is to end up with one that has the retard gene or a family history of mental illness.... or something crazy.


quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Because an adopted child is already alive - it's already here. It's different than bringing someone else to this world because you're not adding one more needy kid to the context.

As for my genes, we're not that much different to begin with. I don't think there are "outsiders" to begin with, unless you can prove me the child was brought to Earth by sneaky aliens that want to know what a human family is like.

Unlikely as it is (the alien origin, that is), I can't see a reason not to adopt a child.


+1

You can find out about the child's genes before you adopt as well.

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
most guys don't like the idea of adopting because they only see one point in having children...to spread their superior genes


This is a good point. It's instinctual for a man to want to spread their seed and ensure that the offspring is their own. It is too taxing to take care of a child that isn't your own, especially when it wont ensure that your genes are going to thrive. Evolutionary lag?


Posted by Fledz on Oct-17-2009 05:35:

Evolutionary lag? That sounds so condescending. You're making it seem like it's somehow wrong to want your own offspring. Guess what? It's not.


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-17-2009 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Evolutionary lag? That sounds so condescending. You're making it seem like it's somehow wrong to want your own offspring. Guess what? It's not.


Nah, it's not condescending... it's just reality.

People have fears of heights and spiders because of evolutionary lag. It's something that is "built into us" and we haven't evolved from it entirely. There are some men who simply cannot get over the fact that it isn't their own offspring, despite how evolved and "superior" a species we claim to be. It's not to say that these men are inferior or something. Hell, I am terrified of spiders... I am lagging too

Just Anthropology babble.


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