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^ yeah he must have deep burning sexual desires if he doesn't agree with homosexuality.. Just like I agree that eating a piece of dogshit would make me sick, but I've got a burning desire to do it, really. Twisted mentality

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Originally posted by Aesthetic ^ yeah he must have deep burning sexual desires if he doesn't agree with homosexuality.. Just like I agree that eating a piece of dogshit would make me sick, but I've got a burning desire to do it, really. Twisted mentality

What are you on about? Everybody who disagrees with homosexuality is a closet case.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic ^ yeah he must have deep burning sexual desires if he doesn't agree with homosexuality.. Just like I agree that eating a piece of dogshit would make me sick, but I've got a burning desire to do it, really. Twisted mentality

It's one thing to disagree with homosexuality. Quite another to rationalize and/or exert control over those who are homosexual. It implies that homosexuality is a decision within someone's control rather than an act of nature beyond the will. If one believes human sexual orientation is a decision one must be making a conscious decision to be straight or rather to abstain from being gay. Given said abstinence it makes since that someone self-deprived of their otherwise natural sexual preference would project that deprivation onto those who aren't.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson You should feel violated when they looked at you. It's because they gave you AIDS with their eyes. They smiled with their AIDS...smAIDS. You now have AIDS. You should definitely be against homosexuals now.

Aint against them...just don't support their ******ry, if that is even a word..

hOw can you not like titties?

"I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman."

lol.

Srsly though, nothing wrong with same sex marriage wtf? No one should have the right to dictate who can or cannot get married.

Those oppressing conservative types are intolerable.

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Originally posted by FallingMoon No one should have the right to dictate who can or cannot get married.

I wonder--how far does this extend?

Siblings? Polygamy? Children? Decedents? Corporations? Can people marry themselves?

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Originally posted by Arbiter I wonder--how far does this extend? Siblings? Polygamy? Children? Decedents? Corporations? Can people marry themselves?

I draw the line at robots. If they learn how to procreate, next thing you know they take over the earth and enslave the human race.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I wonder--how far does this extend? Siblings? Polygamy? Children? Decedents? Corporations? Can people marry themselves?

I say let them make their own bed; and lie in it.

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Originally posted by Enigmatik I'll bet that somewhere in your sexuality there's a quirk.. be it tiny or huge, I don't know.. but it's deep inside any sexual fantasy that you may have had for some time, and it's that one little thing that drives you wild. Try and ignore it... it's a very difficult thing to do to live against a major driving force in your life, and sexuality is one of the largest driving forces that human beings possess.

well, where did i disagree with that? where did i say gays should try not be themselves, should refrain from homosexual relations?
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homosexuality is not natural = against gays in general
against gay couples adopting children = against gays in general
against gay couples adopting children = gays should refrain from homosexual relations

where's the freakin' logic????
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it's not about a conscious decision, it's not about freedoms and liberties. it's about the strictly functional aspects of why nature decided to have two separate sexes in the first place.

instead of carelessly retelling politically correct fairy tales, it would be great if everyone could read a book on psychology (not slylee's of course) and biology, on how a child's development depends on the role models of his parents, on how a child comes to determining his sexual role and sexual self-identification. too many scientific articles were written on this topic for me to actually go around proving it to everyone. if you don't like the idea, have it your way ffs

i can't stop being amazed by how easily people all over the world can go from one extreme to the other in a snap without regard to region or wealth. here east of poland, the "hillbillies of europe", as someone said (lilith?) are generally unconditional homophobes, xenophobes, racists, everythingotherthanthey'reusedto-phobes, mostly low-culture people (i'm serious), but as for the highly-civilized countries (europe, usa) i am honestly a bit saddened by the widespread mindless primitivism of the ideas of democracy and human rights.

would i go too far by saying that to some extent the developing countries like Ukraine, and the third-world, being hopelessly left behind in many departments, actually depend on (and look forward to) the achievements of the western countries in which most of you live? it would be devastating to know that all the great achievements you've had were flushed down the toilet in a couple of decades.

Hell NA they shouldnt be able to adopt


why should they be able to adopt??

Its their choice that they do not want to pro-create. let them be gay and stay gay. thats the price they pay.

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Originally posted by clubamerica Hell NA they shouldnt be able to adopt why should they be able to adopt?? Its their choice that they do not want to pro-create. let them be gay and stay gay. thats the price they pay.

They don't choose shit. They are attracted to someone that they can not naturally have children with. Why should that prevent them from actually raising a child in need?

As for the 'FABULOOOOOOUS!' ones... rather be in their company than testosterone-filled jocks screaming at sports.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n They don't choose shit. They are attracted to someone that they can not naturally have children with. Why should that prevent them from actually raising a child in need?

Well duh, they might turn a straight child gay with their bad influence Of course nobody can actually prove that having a same sex coupl as parents is in any way harmful to the development of a child or even just slightly worse than having a heteroseual couple or even a single parent raise them. It really is just gays = bad, then make up evidence to support your claim because there is none out there that actually does.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n They don't choose shit. They are attracted to someone that they can not naturally have children with. Why should that prevent them from actually raising a child in need?

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Originally posted by FallingMoon Srsly though, nothing wrong with same sex marriage wtf? No one should have the right to dictate who can or cannot get married.

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Originally posted by Moongoose Of course nobody can actually prove that having a same sex coupl as parents is in any way harmful to the development of a child or even just slightly worse than having a heteroseual couple or even a single parent raise them

there is really nothing else i can say

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear there is really nothing else i can say

I'm sure there is, my backwards friend, but the way it sounds coming through the holes in your teeth make it seem a little garbled. Now you just go and make you some more moonshine, polish your gun (Ooops, Eastern Europe - not allowed to have guns?) - your slingshot and worry your pretty head about whether there will be a glut of Africans looking for work in your part of the world now that the Italians have raised crapping on them to a fevered pitch. I hear tale that the men are particularly competent lovers and could see them monopolizing your women folk (those who still have their teeth and are without a curious skin condition resultant from incest with multiple partners). There is nothing wrong with a little situational homosexual activity. You just need to close your eyes and pretend certain parts are different from what they really are. Homemade alcohol poisoning should help with both requirements.

Hillbillies of Europe, indeed.

How come ben is attracted to fat chicks?

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear how a child's development depends on the role models of his parents, on how a child comes to determining his sexual role and sexual self-identification.

That I actually agree with.

Behaviour in the womb of the parent can actually be a factor as well. Lest not forget that you are concious inside the womb of the mother. Could triggers of sexual orientation begin at this point? perhaps. I will agree though with boris and jenny here that it upbringing is the main factor if not the only factor.

If the sexual orientation of parent figures has such an influence on the child, how are there gay people in the first place?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If the sexual orientation of parent figures has such an influence on the child, how are there gay people in the first place?

do the math.

If its not genetic (you can have hetero and homo identical twins) then it has to be a nurture effect.

Where that begins is up for debate.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit do the math. If its not genetic (you can have hetero and homo identical twins) then it has to be a nurture effect. Where that begins is up for debate.

Presumably these identical twins were raised in the same house by the same parents in the same society.

parents and society have so many sub variables that would vary for each individual.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If the sexual orientation of parent figures has such an influence on the child, how are there gay people in the first place?

It has to do more with male and female presence. It's been theorized that children need both a mother and a father figure in order to best develop their own gender identity. I believe that was Erickson.



edit: So yeah perhaps if the parents themselves display non-traditional gender roles.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If the sexual orientation of parent figures has such an influence on the child, how are there gay people in the first place?

it's been proven time & time again that 99.9879% of all homosexual men had a late night uncle sneaky.
As for lesbians... who can blame em.

Lol late night uncle sneaky. My friend had a weird uncle who we used to make chase us around her bedroom after shutting all the lights off. Lol as if we did that.

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Originally posted by jonSun it's been proven time & time again that 99.9879% of all homosexual men had a late night uncle sneaky. As for lesbians... who can blame em.

"uncle sneaky"

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