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i think people bash him on here because they want to be cool. doesn't make them cool tho. makes them look bitter and jealous.

also the funny thing is, i would say close to half the people on TA are social inept because they sit behind a screen and do not know how to interact with real people in real situations.

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Originally posted by VDub If I'm a celeb, and I'm standing in public, and a fan comes up to me, you're damn skippy that I'll at least put my bb away and listen to them for 30 seconds...

really? cuz i don't like people coming and talking to me when i am on my blackberry. can't you see i am busy or trying to avoid talking? would you interrupt someone if they were actually talking on the phone?

also, i can imagine, 30 seconds always turns to 30 minutes especially in a club. so imagine how awesome it is when you have hundreds of saucer size pupil people trying to talk to you. frig, i'd be on my blackberry too.

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Originally posted by VDub No Craig, not really.. Sure what you said is true in part but I personally know quite a few ppl who were fans and supporters until they actually stood in front of mr mouse and were not given the time of day... If I'm a celeb, and I'm standing in public, and a fan comes up to me, you're damn skippy that I'll at least put my bb away and listen to them for 30 seconds... If I don't want to deal with the public, I'll find somewhere to get away... And then there was the whole anti DJ thing... Deadmou5 may be a good producer and showman, but Joel Zimmerman is just not a nice guy. And a lot of people just don't differentiate... I've always said that I was happy that a local was making it big. I've even gone as far as to say that I enjoyed watching him work. I just wish he wasn't such a dick...

I think you missed my point... the flaming of him started before his colourful (to be charitable) responses. Ripping him a new asshole on these boards has less to do with him as a person then him as a success. It's a pretty well established pattern. If someone wants to flame him because he doesn't sufficiently ingratiating himself to his fans that's fine; however, most of what I see are flame posts seemingly born out of our pathalogical need to tear down anyone from our special little underground that gets any measure of mainstream success. It wouldn't matter if Joel gave a blow-job and potted plant to everyone on TA, we'd still hate on him.


(yeah, I don't know why a potted plant either)

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess saucer size pupil people

hey

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess i think people bash him on here because they want to be cool. doesn't make them cool tho. makes them look bitter and jealous. also the funny thing is, i would say close to half the people on TA are social inept because they sit behind a screen and do not know how to interact with real people in real situations.

Well I'll agree with you here Margs...


And yes I am a little jealous...

Who wouldn't be? He's got quite the life..

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess really? cuz i don't like people coming and talking to me when i am on my blackberry. can't you see i am busy or trying to avoid talking? would you interrupt someone if they were actually talking on the phone? also, i can imagine, 30 seconds always turns to 30 minutes especially in a club. so imagine how awesome it is when you have hundreds of saucer size pupil people trying to talk to you. frig, i'd be on my blackberry too.

I'm not talking about talking on the phone, smarty...



And when you're a celebrity, you have to deal with fans...

That's just the way it is..

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I think you missed my point... the flaming of him started before his colourful (to be charitable) responses. Ripping him a new asshole on these boards has less to do with him as a person then him as a success. It's a pretty well established pattern. If someone wants to flame him because he doesn't sufficiently ingratiating himself to his fans that's fine; however, most of what I see are flame posts seemingly born out of our pathalogical need to tear down anyone from our special little underground that gets any measure of mainstream success. It wouldn't matter if Joel gave a blow-job and potted plant to everyone on TA, we'd still hate on him. (yeah, I don't know why a potted plant either)

I got your point bud..

I just added to it...

Potted plant I would like but a bj??

Did you see that picture from the other thread???





Just kidding Joel...

I know the ground teeth were a means to an end...

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Originally posted by VDub I'm not talking about talking on the phone, smarty... And when you're a celebrity, you have to deal with fans... That's just the way it is..

it is true. fans are important but you have to admit, there is a time and a place.

any other DJ, travels with a security crew that tells fans to fuck off. is that what people would prefer? or they would say, "ugh, joel is such a diva he needs security, blah blah blah, bitch bitch bitch". ever try talking to any DJ in the middle of the club?

lol @ the drama.

Double lol @ joel wondering why people on here rip him. It's TA dude it's what people do. Coming here and questioning the hate is like walking out into the rain and wondering why you got wet. Whether you like it or not this place is on the opposite end of the spectrum from the 2mil + fans on FB who spam you with "firsts!" in .5 seconds and "omfg more mau5head pleezzzz." If you want props go see fans, if you want hate come post on TA.

As for ripping up TA as a forum, it's a fucking forum. Show me any one of these on the net and my 12 year old sister could rip it apart, easiest thing ever.

Joel, I liked the thread you made in the production forum, that was really helpful. Maybe some more of that?

wait. the Mau5 uses a BB? why is an American (diplo) reppin officially and not a Canadian? #canadianconspiracy

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Originally posted by deadmau5 fuck "the scene" dude. What the fuck is "the scene" anyway? this shit? can someone clear this up for me? because all i get is, "the scene" is a buncha forum kids, each claiming to know more about EDM, the music business, and everything else in life, than the next

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Because we all like to think of ourselves as special and "underground" so the second someone hits mainstream success it's no longer special to know them since everyone does

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess also the funny thing is, i would say close to half the people on TA are social inept because they sit behind a screen and do not know how to interact with real people in real situations

i swear when i was in canada and met some of the people, i often wondered this

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Originally posted by VDub Did you see that picture from the other thread???

He doesn't know what the scene is because he was never really part of it other than his candy raver days in the 90's...

After those days, he locked himself in his basement for 10 years making music...

Not knocking that seeing as it worked out for him but he doesn't have to knock the scene since he was never a part of it..

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Originally posted by VDub He doesn't know what the scene is because he was never really part of it other than his candy raver days in the 90's... After those days, he locked himself in his basement for 10 years making music... Not knocking that seeing as it worked out for him but he doesn't have to knock the scene since he was never a part of it..

ohhhhh so the scene was never seen by him? ahhh seen guy, seen!

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Originally posted by thesauce23 ohhhhh so the scene was never seen by him? ahhh seen guy, seen!

LOL, easy scarborough, easy!


I'd say for me I used to think having electronic music djs on commercial radio was crap but the more it brings people into the music the better.

Then for music that gets to more of peoples 'mature tastes' a station like "CBC Electric", ir awesome.

So what's wrong w Joel playing the Dome? Nobody complained when Daft Punk, or Tiesto (well seriously complained) or David Guetta coming up played Arrow Hall. Beggars can't be choosers and for huge parties in TO we should just all STFU and enjoy what we do have. Then BETTER will come like back in the late 90s...

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Originally posted by deadmau5 i just sit here and work away on all sorts of fun projects, and when im done those, i sit back and take enjoyment from putting a smile on someones face, or a tune in their head. Dont think for a second "isnt cool like..." or "sucks because" actually contributes to anything other than making yourself look like a complete fuckin idiot who lacks the means to do it the way they see fit. and whats the deal with all this "scene" shit? fuck "the scene" dude. What the fuck is "the scene" anyway? this shit? can someone clear this up for me? because all i get is, "the scene" is a buncha forum kids, each claiming to know more about EDM, the music business, and everything else in life, than the next.

None of this is new, the flak you receive on here unfortunately comes with the territory -- prior to you it was Armin who got slagged, and before that Tiesto, and before that Oakenfold.

It's no fun to come back from the hotel after an amazing gig only to see someone slamming you (or your set) but that's what happens. You could have a thread with 100 positive reviews but it's the one negative one that eats away at you. It takes A LOT to not reply back to defend yourself. I'm not a DJ so I can't comment on that aspect but I have heard enough over the years. It's a slippery slope - even if you are in the right, and come in to defend yourself, you always run the risk of making the problem worse -- those that don't like you won't care what you have to say and those that are on the fence sometimes see your response as being ego/power tripping related. The ones that rise to your defence, are seen as 'kissing ass/ball washing'...it's all fucked up.

TA, for the most part, lets people say what they want without repercussion... I don't censor things and TA doesn't have many rules because life is full of rules and once you wrap too many rules around something it becomes less fun. The major caveat of that is then you end up having ppl threatening to sue you for defamation because of comments said about them on your forum. Believe it or not, this place was once all all lovey dovey. Like most forums in their early stages, many people know each other and don't want to push boundaries... but as things grow ppl want to carve out their own little niche and label those that are too positive as either EDM n00bs or kissing ass for some nefarious purpose.

Also, from my experience, the negativity seems to be worse in Toronto. It's one reason why it's nice to travel to hit up a party - it's a completely different experience. Some would argue the 'scene' evolved into this after 'raves' migrated into nightclubs and dancefloors migrated into havens for bootle service booths... but that's a topic for another thread.

Del. *thumbs up*


This place really did use to be 'lovey dovey' as you put it. Right on right on my brotha.

As for the negativity here in TO, it's for sure forcing people into clubs. The stamping out of most Edm festivals. So sad. I can't think of any other reason as to why.

At the very least if there was a balance of everything, festivals AND big parties then things would be a lot better.

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Originally posted by Swamper Also, from my experience, the negativity seems to be worse in Toronto.

yup. The rest of your post was bang on too.

whatever, if anything i personally always defend him because i appreciate the fact that he actually makes and has always made music himself unlike many of his (just as popular) colleagues. It is not something i really like or listen to a lot but i can appreciate why people like his music. Like Zyklon said he is the mid-step in between popular house music and other less popular edm and people that would like to dig and find out more about lesser known music get that chance, it's a great thing for this city as we need a new generation of people once we get older. Although i've listened to electronic music since 91 i never went out or paid attention to electronic music until i got exposed to tiesto. I hate him now he was that step for me and i'm grateful for that.

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Originally posted by Swamper None of this is new, the flak you receive on here unfortunately comes with the territory -- prior to you it was Armin who got slagged, and before that Tiesto, and before that Oakenfold. It's no fun to come back from the hotel after an amazing gig only to see someone slamming you (or your set) but that's what happens. You could have a thread with 100 positive reviews but it's the one negative one that eats away at you. It takes A LOT to not reply back to defend yourself. I'm not a DJ so I can't comment on that aspect but I have heard enough over the years. It's a slippery slope - even if you are in the right, and come in to defend yourself, you always run the risk of making the problem worse -- those that don't like you won't care what you have to say and those that are on the fence sometimes see your response as being ego/power tripping related. The ones that rise to your defence, are seen as 'kissing ass/ball washing'...it's all fucked up. TA, for the most part, lets people say what they want without repercussion... I don't censor things and TA doesn't have many rules because life is full of rules and once you wrap too many rules around something it becomes less fun. The major caveat of that is then you end up having ppl threatening to sue you for defamation because of comments said about them on your forum. Believe it or not, this place was once all all lovey dovey. Like most forums in their early stages, many people know each other and don't want to push boundaries... but as things grow ppl want to carve out their own little niche and label those that are too positive as either EDM n00bs or kissing ass for some nefarious purpose. Also, from my experience, the negativity seems to be worse in Toronto. It's one reason why it's nice to travel to hit up a party - it's a completely different experience. Some would argue the 'scene' evolved into this after 'raves' migrated into nightclubs and dancefloors migrated into havens for bootle service booths... but that's a topic for another thread.

I've always found it funny when partying abroad, that the crowd is extremely educated with EDM and yet, when a 'cheesy' song comes on, by critic's definition, it's still generally well received. The crowd doesn't seem to care for the most part, and it's all about the vibe of the party/festival. They still manage to throw MASSIVE huge ass festivals/parties, so they must be doing something right.

Yep.


Less Dj worship, more partying for partyings' sake.

I posted a link to something funny that guy Iskhur has on his site: "The Trance Cracker", google it ppl. Hilarious.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Yep. Less Dj worship, more partying for partyings' sake. I posted a link to something funny that guy Iskhur has on his site: "The Trance Cracker", google it ppl. Hilarious.

ishkur posted in my thread in music discussion, knowledgeable guy

and there you go people the Swamper is also a Sweeper.

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Originally posted by geroin ishkur posted in my thread in music discussion, knowledgeable guy

Yeah man. Oldschool from the US it seems.

Also, he can be a bit extreme in terms of dj bashing but meh. I agree w the dj worship thing...or have started to in the last little while anyway.

Last time I went to Guv didn't pay too much attention to what he was doing, just what the dj was playing...turned my back to them and saw how into it the crowd was. It was pretty fun/cool.

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