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I very well know about that section, ive read up on it. However, if one wants to criticize bias, they shouldnt take a side, becuase then they are BEING bias.
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King I very well know about that section, ive read up on it. However, if one wants to criticize bias, they shouldnt take a side, becuase then they are BEING bias. |
AFTER GLORIFYING HOMICIDE BOMBER, SWEDEN SHOULD TAKE LEAD TO MAKE SUICIDE BOMBING A 'CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY'
Join the Simon Wiesenthal Center's protest to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Persson over an art exhibition sponsored by the Swedish government that glorifies a Palestinian homicide bomber and to demand it takes a lead to make suicide bombing a 'crime against humanity'.
"Snow White and the Madness of Truth" which is displayed at Stockholm's Museum of National Antiquities, features a sailboat on a pool of red water with a photo of the smiling female suicide bomber, Hanada Jaradat, who murdered 22 Israeli Jews and Arabs in an October 4th attack on a restaurant in Haifa, Israel.
Israel has demanded that Sweden dismantle the inflammatory exhibition after the Swedish government gave assurances, in advance, that the Middle East conflict would not be included in the exhibition. The inclusion of this exhibit is a clear violation on what was agreed upon. While artists have the right of freedom of expression, they should be challenged when they try to depict terror and mayhem as a virtue. The artwork was designed by Israeli-born Dror Feiler and his Swedish wife Gunilla Skoeld Feiler.
The exhibition is linked to next week's January 26 - 28 "Preventing Genocide" conference in Stockholm hosted by the Swedish government in which 60 countries are scheduled to participate, including Israel.
Swedish P.M. Goran Persson
The government of Sweden has championed the exhibit under the rubric of artistic freedom even though it glorifies suicide bombings. But what is Sweden prepared to do for the real victims of terror? No nation has yet had the courage to officially come forward to declare suicide bombing a 'crime against humanity'. We believe that now is precisely the right time for Sweden to show leadership and responsibility in combating international terrorism by joining the Center's campaign to declare any suicide bombing against any nation, a 'crime against humanity'. Such a move, unlike the display at the Stockholm Museum, would delegitimize terrorists rather than glorify them.
Click here to send your protest directly to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Persson...
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WORLD NEW ROUND-UP!
EGYPT:
After protests from the Simon Wiesenthal Center, UNESCO Director General Koichiro Matsuura joined with the Center in demanding that the first Arabic translation of the infamous antisemitic forgery, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion be removed from an historic library in Alexandria, Egypt. The book had been prominently displayed as a 'Jewish Holy Book' alongside the holy books of monotheistic religions. Prior to the removal of the hate text, the Center urged then-European Union President, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, to limit EU funding of the library until the Protocols were removed. Pictured right is the Center's refutation of the Protocols book, Dismantling The Big Lie: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
UNITED STATES:
The Simon Wiesenthal Center has been increasingly disturbed by a growing trend in American politics of labeling political opponents as Nazis. Against this backdrop, the Center demanded that two controversial ads submitted in a nationwide contest sponsored by the MoveOn.org group, which compared U.S. President George Bush to Adolf Hitler, be removed. Rabbi Marvin Hier, the Center's dean and founder called on MoveOn.org to publicly repudiate and remove the offensive ads saying that, "Adolf Hitler was responsible for the greatest crime in the history of mankind - the Holocaust... to compare Hitler to an American President... defames the Holocaust."
Just 24 hours after the Center's protest, Wes Boyd, founder and president of MoveOn.org personally called Rabbi Hier to express his regrets for the posting of the ads adding that, "We agree that the two ads in question were in poor taste and deeply regret that they [the ads] slipped through our screening process. In the future, if we publish or broadcast raw material, we will create a more effective filtering system."
Following this incident, Rabbi Hier, pictured right, condemned the recent rash of targeting political opponents as Nazis such as the one comparing Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean to Joseph Goebbels and followers of Dean to "Hitler's Brownshirts" and the Gestapo. "Such attacks, whether from the left or the right, are an insult to the millions of victims of Hitler and his Third Reich," said Rabbi Hier. He also urged politicians and the media to, "act responsibly, to reject these smear tactics, and to avoid cheapening the memory of the Holocaust."
CANADA:
"There is no question that going after those who incite terrorism is key to defeating terrorism." That was the response of Canada's new Justice Minister and noted human rights activist Irwin Cotler, (pictured middle with SWC Associate Dean, Rabbi Abraham Cooper, left; and Friends of SWC Canadian Director, Leo Adler, right). Following Mr. Cotler's statement, Rabbi Cooper urged Canada to take a leading role in the campaign to have suicide bombings declared a crime against humanity.
On the issue of international terrorism, Rabbi Cooper met with Stockwell Day, Canada's Conservative Party's Foreign Affairs critic and a Member of the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, who endorsed the Center's campaign. Cooper also met with Quebec Member of Parliament Richard Marceau who was instrumental in getting Canada's National Holocaust Remembrance Day resolution passed and who gave his assurances that he would do everything possible to aid the Center in having suicide bombings recognized as crimes against humanity.
IRELAND:
The Center denounced Ireland for dropping antisemitism from a generic United Nations resolution condemning religious intolerance. "This is a terrible blow for it follows the letter and spirit of the infamous UN World Conference Against Racism held in Durban, South Africa. This move can only further encourage the most extreme anti-Israel and antisemitic governance," said Rabbi Cooper.
Following the Center's protest to Irish President Mary McAleese, Ireland then introduced a separate resolution condemning antisemitism. However, since UN rules demand unanimous approval for such a resolution, it had no chance of passage and was quickly withdrawn.
UNITED STATES:
The Simon Wiesenthal Center urged organizers of a Southern California Muslim football tournament to change the names of some of the teams or cancel the event after learning that some of the teams were named "Intifada," "Soldiers of Allah," and "Mujahideen." "The names like Mujahideen and Intifada evoke images and actions of organizations that promote terrorism and mass murder of innocent civilians," said Rabbi Abraham Cooper. "At a time when members of the Mujahideen attack American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq and perpetrators of the so-called Intifada mass-murder innocent Israeli children and their families in discotheques, pizza parlors, and at religious celebrations, it is beyond words that any American gathering would publicly and proudly promote such horrors," he added. Local Muslim leaders also asked that the team names be changed. Eventually, all the names were changed with the exception of Intifada.
JIHAD UNSPUN AND GOOGLE NEWS
The Google search engine is the most popular method in the world for finding information online, handling more than 200 million search requests a day. Building on their success, Google has now developed Google News (www.news.google.com), a portal that is quickly becoming one of the most influential sources of world news.
Here's how it works: Google News has accepted thousands of news sources for inclusion in a pool, which Google's computer continually scans by algorithm to group articles by topic. When the user types in a search word, such as 'Israel', Google News presents links to hundreds of relevant news stories on that topic. (Greater prominence is given to articles more recently released, and more popular online.)
But with the proliferation of vitriolic anti-Israel and anti-Semitic material on the web (the number of neo-Nazi websites in Germany, for example, has tripled in the past four years) and much of it deliberately disguised in 'news format', the question is: What does Google News consider a legitimate news source � as opposed to fiction or propaganda? The Google News website states only:
While the sources of the news vary in perspective and editorial approach, their selection for inclusion is done without regard to political viewpoint or ideology.
This goal to present a broad spectrum of viewpoints is praiseworthy, but HonestReporting is concerned with Google News' acceptance of one particular site � Jihad Unspun � as Mideast 'news', despite the site's record of blatantly distorting established facts, glorifying terror, and publishing highly defamatory anti-Semitic material. Jihad Unspun's articles appear prominently on searches for Israel-related topics on Google News. But click through, and this is what Jihad Unspun serves up:
� Outrageous 'Zionist conspiracy theories', such as the canard that 9/11 was a sinister Zionist plot, as were the recent Istanbul bombings: 'Zionist Intelligence Engineered Istanbul Blasts'.
� The authors generally refuse to call Israel by name, employing instead the terms 'Zionist forces' and 'Hebrew state'. Some examples:
'Resistance Fighters Attack Zionist Vehicles' (i.e., deadly terror attacks on Israeli civilian cars)
'Zionist Chief of Staff Promises More Suffering for Palestinians'
'Hebrew State Refuses British Involvement'
'Zionist Terrorist Forces Demolish More Palestinians Homes, Mosque'
� All of Israel is referred to as 'occupied territory' and all Israelis are 'settlers'. For example, a report on the closing of the Sbarro's pizzeria, site of the horrific 2001 bombing, reads:
Owners of a Zionist restaurant in central occupied Jerusalem have failed to convince customers to frequent it anew. Clients deserted the 'Subaru' restaurant after a Palestinian commando blew himself up in it about three years ago, killing 17 settlers and wounding tens others.
� The site publishes the writings of the rabidly anti-Semitic Edgar J. Steele, including an article with these passages:
It isn't Arabs rigging the US stock market and commodities futures markets - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who sent our military into Afghanistan and Iraq - it was jews
It wasn't Arabs who forged the Anne Frank "diary" - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who lied about gas chambers at Dachau and Auschwitz - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who demolished the World Trade Center - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who had Jesus Christ crucified - it was jews.
The owner and publisher of Jihad Unspun is Khadija Abdul Qahaar (a.k.a. Bev Kennedy), who converted to Islam after 9/11, became an advocate for its most radical fringe, then launched the website without any journalistic credentials.
While the site is duly protected by the First Amendment (we found no overt calls to murder), the material Jihad Unspun publishes does not meet a reasonable definition of 'news', but is rather anti-Israel and anti-American propaganda that masquerades as news. Google News recognizes this loophole in its system � in March of last year Google News responded to an email campaign protesting the inclusion of the radical Indymedia site (where the term 'Zionazis' was prevalent), and removed Indymedia from their service.
With the highly influential Google News still a work-in-progress (it remains in experimental 'beta' mode), HonestReporting encourages subscribers to write to Google News at [email protected], encouraging the removal of Jihad Unspun from their list of legitimate news sites. Though the goal of providing a spectrum of news sources is laudable, hateful propaganda has no place on Google News.
PARTISAN EDITING AT HERALD TRIBUNE
As the Israeli-Hezbullah prisoner exchange develops this week, HonestReporting subscribers are encouraged to visit our online weblog � www.mediabackspin.com � for media critiques, essential background information, and links to important articles on the exchange that you might otherwise have missed.
HonestReporting has long held that media misrepresentation of the Mideast conflict is one of the primary sources of anti-Israel and anti-Jewish attitudes worldwide. The latest disturbing indication: An Italian newspaper poll found that one-third of Europeans feels Jews should "stop playing 'Holocaust victim' games," and nearly half of Europeans believe that "Jews are different" and have "a particular relationship with money." In all European countries, anti-Semitic sentiment was positively correlated with anti-Israel sentiment.
While ongoing vilification of Israel in European media is part of the problem, veteran journalist Evelyn Gordon has discovered yet another disturbing development: The deliberate tilting of previously balanced articles by one prominent European newspaper � the International Herald Tribune. In an article in today's Jerusalem Post, reprinted below, Gordon finds that the Herald Tribune has altered at least two New York Times articles on the Israeli-Arab conflict in an effort to make Israel look worse to the Herald Tribune's mostly European readers. (We've added links to the original NY Times and Herald Tribune articles, so subscribers can verify Gordon's statements.)
As Edited by...'The Herald Tribune'
Evelyn Gordon
January 27, 2004
Anyone puzzled by the vast difference between European and American attitudes toward Israel ought to spend some time comparing two newspapers: The New York Times and the Paris-based International Herald Tribune.
That may seem like an odd statement, since the IHT is owned by the Times and most of its articles are Times reprints � or at least, so the reader would assume, as they are credited to the Times and appear under Times reporters' bylines.
But it turns out that IHT editors often "improve" the Times copy a bit. The adjustments are minor in terms of the amount of text changed, yet sufficient to give the reader a completely different understanding of events.
I discovered this only last month, having never before thought to compare an IHT article to its Times original. What sparked the discovery was a piece in the IHT's December 27-28 edition, entitled "Israeli tactics assure future bombings, Palestinians assert" and credited to the Times. The article's main thrust was that the Israel Defense Forces believes its two-pronged anti-terror campaign � construction of the separation fence and frequent raids aimed at arresting terrorists and destroying bomb-making facilities � has significantly reduced the number of successful attacks.
But the article also claimed that the December 25 bombing at the Geha Junction ended a three-month period that "seemed to be a sort of unofficial cease-fire. In that time, Palestinian radical groups carried out no suicide bombings."
This struck me as outrageous, since a cease-fire implies that no attacks were attempted � whereas, according to IDF statistics, there were no fewer than 22 attempted suicide bombings during that time, all foiled by Israel's security forces. But when I checked the article on the Times Web site in preparation for an angry letter to that paper, I discovered the following:
The Times never referred to this period as a cease-fire.
The Times explicitly mentioned that "numerous terror attempts" had been made during this period and were thwarted by Israel; that entire paragraph was cut from the IHT piece.
The Times did not say that Palestinians "carried out no suicide bombings," giving the false impression that they attempted none; it merely said, correctly, that no bombings took place.
Moreover, the Times article carried a very different � and far more accurate � headline:
"Bombing after lull: Israel still believes the worst is over."
The result is that the average Times reader came away with the following impression: Israel's military activity produced three months in which no Israelis were killed, despite "numerous terror attempts." This activity is thus saving Israeli lives, and therefore potentially justifiable.
But the IHT reader received the opposite impression: Neither the fence nor the raids were justified, since there was an "unofficial cease-fire" and Palestinians were not committing attacks in any case. Moreover, since no attempts took place during this period, Israel's activity did not save a single life.
In short, rather than preventing bombings, Israel is, as the IHT headline asserts, "assuring future bombings" by persecuting the Palestinians for no reason.
The IHT later published a letter from me on this subject, but again with crucial distortions. One sentence was cut altogether: "The version of the article that appeared in The New York Times did mention that 'numerous' attempted attacks were thwarted during this period and did not refer to it as a 'cease-fire.'"
Another sentence � "according to Israeli army statistics, Palestinians attempted to carry out 22 suicide bombings during this time" � was replaced by "according to one count, Palestinians attempted to carry out more than 20 suicide bombings during this time."
Thus the IHT cut both of the sources I cited for my assertion that attacks were attempted � the Times and the IDF � and substituted an unsourced "according to one count." That leaves the reader with the impression that I have no source � I cannot even say according to whose count � and my assertion is therefore not credible.
Since this episode, I have discovered that the IHT often subtly alters Times copy to make its readers dislike Israel more.
On January 2, for instance, the Times ran an article stating that in 1973, the Nixon administration considered invading three Arab countries "if the [oil] embargo, imposed by Arab nations in retaliation for America's support for Israel in the 1973 Middle East war, did not end." The IHT altered this to state that Nixon planned to invade "if tensions between Israel and its Arab neighbors continued to escalate after the October 1973 Middle East War or if the oil embargo did not abate."
Moreover, the IHT erased the statement � repeated twice in the Times article � that the embargo was due to America's wartime support for Israel, substituting the statement that it was imposed "to try to pressure the United States and other Western countries to force Israel to withdraw from Arab land."
Thus the Times reader concludes that Nixon was angered by an Arab action, the embargo, which was retaliation for an American action � wartime support for an ally. Israel was clearly involved, but this was primarily an Arab-American dispute.
The IHT reader, in contrast, concludes that Nixon's main concern was not the Arab action, but "tensions between Israel and its Arab neighbors"; the embargo gets only second billing. Moreover, the embargo was aimed not at American policy, but at a mysterious Israeli seizure of Arab land whose background � the fact that it was captured in a defensive war � is never explained. In short, the entire crisis was Israel's fault.
Very few people know more about Israel than what they learn from the media. It is therefore not surprising that readers fed on a diet of such subtle distortions view Israel as the villain.
Unfortunately, in Europe the IHT's behavior is the norm rather than the exception.
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PA POLICEMAN/TERRORIST PA POLICEMAN/TERRORIST
Thursday morning (Jan. 29), a Palestinian terrorist committed yet another horrific suicide bombing on a packed Jerusalem bus, killing ten Israelis and injuring more than fifty. Of particular note � this terrorist was a PA policeman: PA Policeman/Terrorist Ali Jaarah
Palestinian security officials said later Thursday that the bomber was a member of the Palestinian police, from the West Bank city of Bethlehem.
All major news agencies � AP, New York Times, Washington Post � included this chilling fact in a prominent manner, since it indicates how just how far Arafat's PA is from rooting out terror.
All agencies, that is, except one: Reuters completely omitted the terrorist's occupation as a PA policeman from their reports.
This is just the latest in a long pattern of Reuters' whitewashing PA collusion in Palestinian terror. Sometimes it's more subtle � on Jan. 28, Reuters reported (emphasis added):
The army has destroyed dozens of Palestinian police stations in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, accusing security forces of either turning a blind eye to militant groups attacking Israelis or taking part themselves in the three-year-old uprising.
Reuters' claim that Israel merely 'accuses' the PA police of taking part in terrorist activity was inaccurate even before today's attack. As one of many examples, in January, 2002 a PA policeman was arrested and personally confessed to terrorist acts.
It has become increasingly clear that Reuters has an agenda to obscure facts that cast the PA in a negative light. Reuters has stubbornly refused to respond directly to readers' complaints, so the time has come for another approach.
Does your local paper carry Reuters articles on the Mideast conflict? If so, HonestReporting encourages you to contact your paper, indicating that given Reuters' repeated obscuring of key facts, the local paper should switch to a more objective news source � one that does not regularly whitewash Palestinian terror and PA corruption.
THE FATAH-AL AQSA BRIGADE
Dear HonestReporting Subscriber,
This morning (Feb.22) a suicide bomber on a Jerusalem bus killed 8 Israelis � including two teenagers on their way to school � and injured over 60.
The attack was perpetrated by a member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. While it is generally accepted that this terrorist group is connected to Yassir Arafat's Fatah party, most major news agencies continued to downplay that relationship in today's reports:
� Associated Press: "The Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a militant group loosely affiliated with Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, claimed responsibility for the attack and identified the bomber as Mohammed Zool, 23, from the village of Hussan near Bethlehem."
� Washington Post: "Hezbollah television station Al-Manar reported that the bombing was carried out by the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the militant group that associates itself with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement..."
� CNN: "The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades � the military offshoot of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement � claimed responsibility for the blast in a statement."
� Agence France Presse: "The bombing, claimed by the radical Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed offshoot of Arafat's Fatah movement..."
DIRECT CONNECTION
The evidence, however, clearly indicates that the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade is not some "loose offshoot," but rather has a direct and ongoing bond to the Fatah party, which holds a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament. The Palestinian government, therefore, bears direct responsibility for the group's heinous terrorist acts:
▪ In November, 2003 a BBC investigation found that up to $50,000 a month was funneled by Fatah directly to the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. When BBC reported on today's attack, their terminology was consistent with these findings � unlike the outlets above, BBC described the relationship between Fatah and the terrorists in an entirely accurate manner:
The militant al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, part of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction, has claimed responsibility for the suicide attack.
▪ Documents captured by the IDF in 2002 indicated Fatah's "systematic, institutionalized and ongoing financing" of the Al Aqsa Brigades, including a special allocation to the Bethlehem branch of the organization (the very group that dispatched today's bomber). After inspecting these documents, President Bush called for Arafat's removal in June, 2002.
▪ The leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Tulkarm told USA Today on March 14, 2002: "The truth is, we are Fatah, but we didn't operate under the name of Fatah...We are the armed wing of the organization. We receive our instructions from Fatah. Our commander is Yasser Arafat himself."
▪ Last week, British MP Jenny Tonge went to visit Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades' Bethlehem branch. BBC's Radio 4 carried a report in which the terrorists themselves admit they are "part of Fatah...the militant part." (Click here to hear the report � the statement regarding Fatah is about 2:50 in.)
HonestReporting calls on other media outlets to follow the BBC's lead and specify the integral connection between Fatah and the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM
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This is not merely a semantic matter. The close ties that bond the Fatah-led PA to terrorist groups are the fundamental problem that prevents progress toward peaceful reconciliation. The dominant political party in the PA remains a direct sponsor of ongoing terrorism � the ruling politicians and the terrorists are one and the same.
If media outlets fail to convey this, their readers and viewers certainly can't understand Israel's position in the raging debate over the security fence, which tomorrow reaches the world court at The Hague.
One paper that clearly doesn't "get it" is The Chicago Tribune, which published today three op-eds (1,2,3) railing against the security fence, all under the theme "Build Bridges, Not Walls."
Israel has been attempting to build bridges with her Palestinian neighbors for over fifty years. But as a terror-free Palestinian leadership has never emerged, and Israeli families continue to be torn apart by senseless terrorist murder, no other option currently exists. Until there's a Palestinian partner who forsakes terrorism, Israeli citizens deserve the protection of an imperfect wall.
In reporting on today's attack, did your local paper indicate the direct connections between the perpetrators of the horrific attack and Yassir Arafat's ruling Fatah party? If not, write a letter to the editor, using the talking points above, and stressing the significance of accuracy on this particular issue � which cuts to the heart of the entire conflict.
Monday, March 01, 2004
End Sleaze or Lose Aid
From The Scotsman:
The World Bank has issued the Palestinian Authority with an ultimatum to put an end to rampant corruption or lose hundreds of millions of pounds of vital foreign aid.
The Bank�s top official in the region, Nigel Roberts, said Yasser Arafat had to stop the handing of large cash payments to his security commanders - used to keep them loyal to Arafat personally - and other financial practices open to corruption.
Otherwise, he said, the Palestinian Authority risked losing the support of the international community.
In an interview with Scotland on Sunday, Roberts said the Palestinians were receiving the largest amount of money per capita in the history of foreign aid but this was still not enough to balance the budget.
He said it was now crunch time for the Palestinian Authority: support the reformers, led by Finance Minister Salam Fayyad, or face financial ruin.
The largest amount of money per capita in the history of foreign aid. And Israel is blamed for the plight of Palestinians?!
good way to get the ol' post count up
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| Originally posted by tathi good way to get the ol' post count up |
Ilan, for heaven's sake, stop fucking resurrecting (read: spamming) old threads so you can flood them with overly biased hate spewing propaganda.
I think it's blatantly obvious that nobody reads this crap anymore, as most of the pro Palestinian mob just posts crazed anti Israeli diatribes, whilst the pro Israeli side is (generally) even worse. Hell, you aren't exactly helping your cause by creating loads of other pointless threads in quick succession, in addition to bumping something as worthless as this.
Every week there are at least three or so new Palestine - Israel threads, but most of them, quite frankly, suck. Instead of doing the old copy paste, why not open (or participate in) a thread that actually involves people typing out and expressing their own opinions, and rationally discussing the issues involved without resorting to the old 'ZIONIST!' or 'ARAB DOG!' type insults, or flooding it with entire article's simply cut from various 'news' sources.
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| Originally posted by arctic Ilan, for heaven's sake, stop fucking resurrecting (read: spamming) old threads so you can flood them with overly biased hate spewing propaganda. |
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| I think it's blatantly obvious that nobody reads this crap anymore, as most of the pro Palestinian mob just posts crazed anti Israeli diatribes, whilst the pro Israeli side is (generally) even worse. Hell, you aren't exactly helping your cause by creating loads of other pointless threads in quick succession, in addition to bumping something as worthless as this. |
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| Every week there are at least three or so new Palestine - Israel threads, but most of them, quite frankly, suck. Instead of doing the old copy paste, why not open (or participate in) a thread that actually involves people typing out and expressing their own opinions, and rationally discussing the issues involved without resorting to the old 'ZIONIST!' or 'ARAB DOG!' type insults, or flooding it with entire article's simply cut from various 'news' sources. |
i've posted in most of your threads and i've read none of your articles, people will see the "last post" of a thread and if it's not by yourself they will come and have a look. That's why diginut posted after cyrus king and drug tito and artic posted after i did.
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| I've participated in my fair share of debates over the years here on TA's Political Forum... dont be fooled by the date of registration on this account. I'm sure i have some old "friends" who can attest to my involvement on this board. |
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| Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef Bias because you don't agree with the facts that honest reporting brings up or bias because you dont agree with the stand for Israel one takes? Your 17 year old brain obviously doesn't know what hate is if you attribute hate to Honestreporting.com - check the site before you make false accusations. |
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| I've participated in my fair share of debates over the years here on TA's Political Forum... dont be fooled by the date of registration on this account. I'm sure i have some old "friends" who can attest to my involvement on this board. |
melech_mike never gives up
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| Originally posted by tathi artic this incognito fool is actually melech_mike / arafuct. |
CBC Website: In-Depth and One-Sided
The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation�s website provides a wealth of background information on issues of interest to Canadians. For the sake of brevity, these backgrounders compress a great deal of information into concise packages. However they are still obligated, in the CBC�s own words, �to be fair, accurate, thorough, comprehensive and balanced in their presentation of information.�
The CBC�s special IN DEPTH section on the Middle East is a collection of documents dedicated to Israel and the Palestinians. With the look and feel of an educational primer, it contains background materials including descriptions of key issues, biographies of key players, links to archived news stories, and a quiz to �test your knowledge.�
One might expect that in approaching the controversial topic of the Middle East, the CBC would carefully avoid giving even the slightest impression of taking sides. It is all the more surprising, then, to discover that in the very first sentence on its Middle East homepage, the CBC introduces Canadians to a decidedly one-sided version of history:
�Since May of 1948 when the modern state of Israel was proclaimed, the land has had two parallel histories, one for the Jews who control the state and one for the Palestinians whose homeland the nation was built on.�
The CBC thus introduces the topic as a power dynamic, in which Israelis have all the power and Palestinians are a victimized people dispossessed of their land. In this CBC version of events, the Palestinians are the obvious owners of the land on which the Jews run the show.
This is, of course, inconsistent with historical fact. Leaving aside the Jews� lengthy history in the land and the fact that prior to the 20th century they were alone in referring to Israel/Palestine as their �homeland,� it is worth pointing out that the majority of territory on which the modern state of Israel was declared had in fact been public land administered by the British Mandatory authorities, and an additional 10 percent was owned outright by Jewish individuals or organizations.
CBC continues its introduction by asserting that
�Statehood for Israel left over 700,000 Palestinians as refugees.�
This one-sided formulation ignores the fact that just as Arabs became refugees, an equal number of Jews became refugees from Arab lands. It also ignores Israel�s role in absorbing the dispossessed Middle Eastern Jews, while nearly two dozen Arab states offered no comparable support to their Arab brethren.
CBC�s narrative continues:
�For every day of the fifty years of its existence, Israel has been on war footing, fearing the aggressive hostility of its neighbours and spending staggering amounts of its energy and economy on defense. For every day of the same fifty years the displaced Palestinians and their Arab supporters have worked, often with great violence, to recover land for a Palestinian state.�
Conveniently glossed over in this summary is the fact that Arab efforts �to recover land for a Palestinian state� consisted of attempts to outright destroy the state of Israel.
For example, on the day Israel declared its independence in 1948, as five Arab armies attacked Israel, the Secretary General of the Arab League declared, �This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.� Prior to the 1967 Middle East war, President Abdur Rahman Aref of Iraq declared, �The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear -- to wipe Israel off the map.�
Similarly, the PLO charter and the Hamas charter clearly identify the state of Israel as an illegitimate entity that must be eliminated. And throughout multiple wars and decades of Arab terror against Israel, the avowed objective has been the destruction of the Jewish state.
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In future media alerts, HonestReporting Canada will present additional analyses of the CBC website's Middle East section. For example, in its �History of the Mideast� backgrounder, the CBC tells Canadians that
�In December of 1987, the Palestinians in Gaza, followed immediately by those in the West Bank, erupted with four decades of anguish and anger. The Intifada, the spontaneous uprising of a people with nothing to lose, had begun� Over the next several years hundreds of Palestinians were killed and thousands more put into detention camps.�
The CBC omits the fact that almost 200 Israelis were killed during this period and more than a thousand were injured. And by leaving out the fact that a third of the Palestinians who died during this period were killed by their fellow Palestinians in what became known as the �intrafada,� the CBC gives its readers the false impression that Israel was solely responsible for all of the Palestinian fatalities.
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Send comments to: [email protected]
Goodbye Rantisi, shame on you CNN
> > By Howard Galganov April 20, 2004
> >
> >
> > Breaking News - Abdel Aziz Rantisi "was" a clairvoyant with the
> >ability to foresee the future.
> >
> > Almost immediately after the assassination of Sheik Yassin,
> >Rantisi's predecessor, Rantisi stated for all to hear:
> >
> > "The Israelis opened the gates of hell. And blood will flow in the
> >streets."
> >
> > Rantisi was right. But what he didn't foresee, was that it was
going
> >to be his blood, and his one way voyage to perdition through those open
> >gates on April 17, 2004.
> >
> > Minutes after it happened, news networks worldwide were putting
> >their spin on the event. But CNN's on-air personality, Frederica
Whitfield
> >has to take the cake.
> >
> > It's too bad that great looks (she's very attractive) trumps
> >journalistic integrity.
> >
> > In her interview with Israeli Foreign Affairs spokesman, Gideon
Meir
> >(3:20pm Eastern Time), Whitfield asked if this attack on Rantisi was in
> >retaliation to the suicide bombing (murder) a short time before at the
Erez
> >border crossing between Gaza and Israel?
> >
> > Meir said clearly:
> >
> > This is no retaliation. It was a prepared attack waiting for the
> >best opportunity.
> >
> > Again, Whitfield asked about Israeli retaliation attacks. Again,
> >Meir said there are no retaliation attacks. Israel - Meir said, is at war
> >with TERRORISTS, and has a strategy that it is following.
> >
> > Israel will attack TERRORIST leaders whenever Israel has the
> >opportunity to do so with the best chance not to kill or wound innocent
> >civilians. In the case of Rantisi, the opportunity presented itself, and
> >Israel took it.
> >
> > Again Whitfield came back to retaliation: and again, Meir said
> >Israel does not have the time to retaliate. This is not our strategy.
> >
> > Whitfield then asked Gideon Meir if the attack on Rantisi was the
> >result of a Green Light given to Ariel Sharon from George Bush?
> >
> > Once again, Meir's response was crystal clear:
> >
> > Israel is a sovereign country that makes its own decisions in
terms
> >of how it defends itself. Israel does not go to the United States to ask
> >permission in order to act. Just like the United States does not seek
> >permission from others to defend itself.
> >
> > The moment after Frederica Whitfield thanked Gideon Meir, and he
was
> >off-air, the first words out of her mouth were:
> >
> > "AS YOU HEARD - THIS IS RETALIATION..."
> >
> > Meir said no such thing. TO THE CONTRARY. He insisted at least
three
> >times during their discussion that there is no retaliation policy from
the
> >State of Israel for acts of Arab TERRORISM.
> >
> > WAS SHE DEAF?
> >
> > And to add fuel to the flames of her outright lie concerning
> >retaliation, she included that Israel got the Green Light from George W
> >Bush.
> >
> > Talk about yellow journalism.
> >
> > Doesn't CNN promote itself as the MOST TRUSTED NEWS STATION or
> >something like it? If they're the most trusted, God help us.
> >
> > The spin from all the news networks I've seen, is that this
> >assassination is just going to exacerbate the "cycle" of violence. Sure,
> >just like standing up to Adolf Hitler made things worse for humanity.
> >
> > Contrary to anti-Israel and Lefty thoughts, the only way to deal
> >with thugs, murderers, and TERRORISTS is to kill them all, especially the
> >bastards at the top. Once they're gone the problem goes with them. And if
> >not, where is Israel any further behind?
> >
> > Who would hesitate to kill Osama Bin Laden?
> >
> > I am absolutely convinced that the Palestinians will never have a
> >normal society. It's just not in their nature. But that's their business
> >and their problem.
> >
> > If security from endemic state sponsored mass murder takes the
> >assassination of one Rantisi, or hundreds of Rantisis - so be it.
> >Eventually, the Palestinians will either get the message or run out of
> >Rantisis.
> >
> > Killing Rantisi was a step forward not backward. Killing more
> >Rantisis will also be steps forward. Doing nothing, while the world
expects
> >Israel to negotiate with liars, thieves, cheats, thugs and murderers is
not
> >an option.
> >
> > Maybe to CNN, the Lefties, and the anti-Semites, negotiation with
> >thugs is an option. But it sure isn't to innocent people who want to
> >survive in the face of murderers.
> > Views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect those of
> >israelinsider.
> >
> >
> >
> > Howard Galganov manages the Promar Media Group, an advertising agency
> >that specializes in the hospitality industry. He was the host of a
popular
> >Montreal radio talk show and a cofounder of the Quebec Political Action
> >Committee (QPAC) that promoted equal citizenship for Quebec's minorities.
hey,
having lived in lebanon during the war, i can understand the tradgedy of losing loved ones suddenly and irreversibly. nobody (sane) is condoning that - not even i, your despised 'enemy'. What i do condone is getting to the root of the issue which is existential and for most of the conflict's history, a real-estate one.
now that sharon's getting his way with the gaza disengagement plan (and continued settlement activity on the west bank), i really believe that we will soon see one country - perhaps federated - with a jewish and arab character. sharon's vision of a palestine is just way too constrictive for any viable state to exist.
the concession of the palestinians will be their homes lost in the 1948 war and a country of essentially homogeneous arabs (jewish or otherwise). the concession of the jews will be two nations under god and instead one nation under adonai. a federal-system will help alleviate this cultural tension.
but for what it's worth, killing innocent people, of any relgiion, is wrong. AP is guilty of bias as is FoxNews, CNN, or any other news agency. At the end of the day, Israel is winning the media campaign. so instead of complainig about bias, we should deal with the issue.
hopefully this is the final word on the threat.
shalom 
i meant *thread*.
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| Originally posted by skoubidou hopefully this is the final word on the threat. shalom |
you're wasting your breath in this thread on dj_ilian_yosef, his a racist moron.
btw, your post reads too neutral and friendly for it to be in this forum 
welcome to the forum skoubidou 
unfortunally, you will never be able to change ilians opinions he is a biased racist idiot, but you had some interesting points
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| Originally posted by tathi you're wasting your breath in this thread on dj_ilian_yosef, his a racist moron. btw, your post reads too neutral and friendly for it to be in this forum |
gotta love this forum
" If you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth."
-Joseph Gobels(Hitler's Public relations and Communications man)
Maybe there wouldn't be so much misunderstandings if some of you ignorant "TA'S" actually research and not believe the dirty lies that so many Jew Hating Arabs and Anti Semite's spew at you and the media.
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