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Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-20-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
This poses the question: why is sex really that heavy duty? Really, it is nothing more than nature's way of making us reproduce. I'll dare to claim that the emotional attachments we struggle with regarding sex nowadays is mainly due to religion's claim that sex is a gift from those who created us, and is designed for two people bonded by love. Since so many of us longer necessarily hold this to be true, why do we still have to cling to these rules?


well yeah that's true...but for me personally its about love...and being clean hehehe. i don't wanna get something because i made a stupid choice.


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
This poses the question: why is sex really that heavy duty? Really, it is nothing more than nature's way of making us reproduce. I'll dare to claim that the emotional attachments we struggle with regarding sex nowadays is mainly due to religion's claim that sex is a gift from those who created us, and is designed for two people bonded by love. Since so many of us longer necessarily hold this to be true, why do we still have to cling to these rules?


When a woman has sex, she is over loaded with a hormone that makes her want to attach. This is what causes that emotion thing getting tied in, no matter how much she doesn't want her emotions involved.

It is a scientific bodily effect. We cannot help it.

P.S. I assume that most men don't get this surge of hormone, or at least not as strongly as women.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-20-2004 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
When a woman has sex, she is over loaded with a hormone that makes her want to attach. This is what causes that emotion thing getting tied in, no matter how much she doesn't want her emotions involved.


If this was the case, no woman would ever be able to go through with no strings attached-sex without wanting to get emotionally involved with her partner. I seriously doubt that this is the case. Women feel like having sex and then nothing else just like men do.


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
If this was the case, no woman would ever be able to go through with no strings attached-sex without wanting to get emotionally involved with her partner. I seriously doubt that this is the case. Women feel like having sex and then nothing else just like men do.


Like I said in my P.S., that probably applies to some women too.

I mean, women who go psycho once they sleep with a guy and constantly call you, they probably got an overdose of the hormone, a woman who can just have sex and walk away not really phased, probably recieves very little of the hormone.

I know that there is a hormone involved (I cannot think of the name.) We learned about it in sex ed. at school in grade 10, and I also read about it recently.


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-20-2004 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
If this was the case, no woman would ever be able to go through with no strings attached-sex without wanting to get emotionally involved with her partner. I seriously doubt that this is the case. Women feel like having sex and then nothing else just like men do.


well perhaps there are always those emotions...but perhaps under certain circumstances...those are overlooked...


Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-20-2004 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
I mean, women who go psycho once they sleep with a guy and constantly call you, they probably got an overdose of the hormone, a woman who can just have sex and walk away not really phased, probably recieves very little of the hormone.

I know that there is a hormone involved (I cannot think of the name.) We learned about it in sex ed. at school in grade 10, and I also read about it recently.


If you ask me, the reason that this happens is more a guilty conscience towards the norms and rules that the individual thinks that he/she is bound by sexwise. But if someone could come up with scientific evidence that it's actually a hormonal effect, then that'd be interesting


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
If you ask me, the reason that this happens is more a guilty conscience towards the norms and rules that the individual thinks that he/she is bound by sexwise. But if someone could come up with scientific evidence that it's actually a hormonal effect, then that'd be interesting


I am looking...

DAMN I wish my sex ed. teacher was here. Now I REALLY wish I could remember stupid shit like the name of a hormone, it would make my search easier!


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-20-2004 15:09:

is this it?

http://content.dating.indiatimes.co...how/1059372.cms


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:10:

Attachment is a longer lasting commitment and is the bond that keeps couples together when they go on to have children. Important in this stage are two hormones released by the nervous system, which are thought to play a role in social attachments:

Oxytocin - This is released by the hypothalamus gland during child birth and also helps the breast express milk. It helps cement the strong bond between mother and child. It is also released by both sexes during orgasm and it is thought that it promotes bonding when adults are intimate. The theory goes that the more sex a couple has, the deeper their bond becomes


Vasopressin - Another important chemical in the long-term commitment stage. It is an important controller of the kidney and its role in long-term relationships was discovered when scientists looked at the prairie vole

So, I am assuming it is "Vasopressin"


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
is this it?

http://content.dating.indiatimes.co...how/1059372.cms


Yours sounds about right too.


Posted by DJ_Bod on Oct-20-2004 15:14:

Maybe this hormone theory is why some GUYS get attached to a person even if the feeling isn't reciprocated. If it is hormonal, then it's created by the body, and each person has the ability to make it, and can make too much if the right factors are there...

And sex can mean something to some people, and it can be only a physical thing. I guess that I am a person that applies the notion of sex to love.

Besides, if I only needed a quick nut, I'd jerk off. It'd be quicker and easier.

Every person has a different notion of sex, and what it means. I respect the people who view it different than I do. I don't think that there is a set way that we SHOULD think. as long as someone finds someone who feels the same way, then it's all good. I'll quit rambling now.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-20-2004 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Attachment is a longer lasting commitment and is the bond that keeps couples together when they go on to have children. Important in this stage are two hormones released by the nervous system, which are thought to play a role in social attachments:

Oxytocin - This is released by the hypothalamus gland during child birth and also helps the breast express milk. It helps cement the strong bond between mother and child. It is also released by both sexes during orgasm and it is thought that it promotes bonding when adults are intimate. The theory goes that the more sex a couple has, the deeper their bond becomes


Hm, sounds a bit vague, but I'll play along nevertheless. Some questions:

- Why do we get these hormones? The only thing the body should care about is that we actually reproduce. Whether we bond with the partner later or not is really of little importance in that sense.

- If it is released by both sexes through their respective orgasms, how come the female orgasm is so elusive and harder to obtain via penetration, which ultimately is the way humans reproduce?


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:16:

Interesting info


Posted by Lira on Oct-20-2004 15:18:

^^^ Interesting indeed.
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Bod
I would never have a one night stand. I just think that's disrespectful to yourself and your partner. Sex is more than just sticking the pen0r into the p00ntang. It's a physical manifestation of two peoples feelings for each other.

Linking respect to physical manifestation of people's feeling has little to do with sex itself.

Respect means an objective, hence unbiased, unconditional consideration and regard for rights, values, beliefs and property. As long as you're not being disrespected by their attitude, by the time you choose to have seletive respect (either for a specific field, such as a person's properties, or a group of individuals, such as "those who you think that deserve to be respected) there's abuse. Even if you link respect to "admiration", as long as both partners are willing in have no-strings-attached sex and aren't harming anyone else, there's no reason for you to mind them.

As for sex being a physical manifestation, that's true, which doesn't necessarily nulls the idea of having a one night stand. Among the feelings that can lead to a physical manifestation, there can be plain sexual attraction, financial needs and many other causes completely unrelated to love itself. Kisses, hugs and petting can also be seen as physical manifestations of love, not necessary have a sense of respect linked to them.


Posted by DJ_Bod on Oct-20-2004 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Linking respect to physical manifestation of people's feeling has little to do with sex itself.

Respect means an objective, hence unbiased, unconditional consideration and regard for rights, values, beliefs and property. As long as you're not being disrespected by their attitude, by the time you choose to have seletive respect (either for a specific field, such as a person's properties, or a group of individuals, such as "those who you think that deserve to be respected) there's abuse. Even if you link respect to "admiration", as long as both partners are willing in have no-strings-attached sex and aren't harming anyone else, there's no reason for you to mind them.

As for sex being a physical manifestation, that's true, which doesn't necessarily nulls the idea of having a one night stand. Among the feelings that can lead to a physical manifestation, there can be plain sexual attraction, financial needs and many other causes completely unrelated to love itself. Kisses, hugs and petting can also be seen as physical manifestations of love, not necessary have a sense of respect linked to them.


I agree. I do not mind them (my other post from today in here). I was just stating how I felt about it (since the thread was dead at the time)

Also, I agree that kisses, hugs, etc. are also the same thing, just not quite as intense as the actual act.

(if you're still doing the trying to learn English thing, I believe it would null the idea instead of nulls)


Posted by UWM on Oct-20-2004 15:29:

Gooooooooo 'Gina!


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:34:

Umm so yea anyway.

Guys, would it bother you if your girlfriend masturbated every single day?


Posted by Falcon-X on Oct-20-2004 15:36:

probably not, kind of depends on why she does it.

Mine does it something like once a week and that's pretty cool, plus the personal shows I get.

always nice when your gf tells you she just did it because you tempted her before, etc


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-20-2004 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Umm so yea anyway.

Guys, would it bother you if your girlfriend masturbated every single day?


it depends...if she is doing that and then doesn't want to sleep with me...well...i might have a problem with that hehehe. but i wouldn't care...


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Falcon-X
probably not, kind of depends on why she does it.

Mine does it something like once a week and that's pretty cool, plus the personal shows I get.


It isn't because you aren't adequate enough, it's just that she enjoys pleasuring herself everyday as well.


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-20-2004 15:38:

do you let your boyfriends partake in the matter hahaha...


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-20-2004 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Umm so yea anyway.

Guys, would it bother you if your girlfriend masturbated every single day?


No, why should it be any of my business? It's not like I own her.


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:38:

Jeez this thread makes me sounds like a dirty masturbation loving sex fiend.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-20-2004 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Guys, would it bother you if your girlfriend masturbated every single day?


There's two ways of interpreting that: 1. You're not satisfying her when you have sex or 2. She's extremely horny.

Either way, I'd ask her if she was happy with the way I performed in bed, and thus clear it up that way. Also, I'd tell her to call on me more often when the urge surfaces so that I could give her a helping hand/tongue.


Posted by RandomGirl on Oct-20-2004 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
do you let your boyfriends partake in the matter hahaha...


Other than the normal shows before sex, no.


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