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Originally posted by Radagast An asshole with good reason. I've almost literally spent the past two years of my life looking up (real) classic trance once I realized what an idiot I was prior. Fueled by the former love of a genre now lifeless to me I began a search for reasons why. I come here and i've got people who don't know what Two Full Moons And A Trout is trying to tell me what and what is not a classic. Added to the fact that it is extremely frustrating to look up an extinct underground form of music, it becomes increasingly grating to hear.

That's understandable Radagast. But, well... let's just say you wouldn't be my first choice for a diplomat.

oh i'm right there with you...i have a ton of tracks on my own personal list that i don't share because i know it wouldn't be appreciated...

It's just...well...it get's hard you know? Sometimes...it just gets hard...I need a hug. I've been living on yogurt and Thanksgiving turkey for a week now...I don't know how much longer I can last....i'm going to crack like an Easter egg. You people suck. You ignorant, igno...ah to hell with it. *sucks thumb*

The art of making people listen is one of the most difficult and coveted on earth. Don't sweat it.

But calling people imbecilic fools has limits when it comes to persuasion. Let's be honest, if you were the Bush administration North Korea would have nuked you ten times over by now.

Getting people to listen is one thing, a thing which is easy to do. Making people understand is different thing altogether. Very hard, that.

I may have insulted him (probably not) with my words, but he did insult me, and indeed the entire genre of trance, with his. I don't know why I should be insulted now, since it's been happening for many, many years and even I was a part of it. Depressing in a way. At any rate, I didn't insult anyone elses contribution (and wasn't planning to) and I expected the same considerance.

<----this guy is always happy...

...pointless statements done, thread unhijacked.

Pulp Victim - The World 99 (Moonman Mix) still gives me goosebumps whenever I hear it.

ok..........

jam & spoon-stella
orbital-halycon
art of trance-madagascar

I am totally perplexed as to why I am being called an idoit. Can I plz have some more opinions on Radagasts list of "classics" plz.
Since when has Take Me Away been a classic?????????

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Originally posted by Peter K I am totally perplexed as to why I am being called an idoit. Can I plz have some more opinions on Radagasts list of "classics" plz. Since when has Take Me Away been a classic?????????

I guess you can say much about Radagast, but he definetely has great taste in music, better than most people in here. I can't say I've heard all the tunes he listed, but most of those I know are great tunes. You should respect him for that, because he clearly knows a lot more about trance than you.

And it was the Resistance D Remix of "Take Me Away" he was referring to, at least take a listen to that before you make a statement.

Time to re-live an old thread,

cant believe your guys missed out on

Remirez - Hablando!!
Lionrock - Packet of Peace
Zion - no fate

And the track that rocked Dublin (Ormond key) was Davy holmes remix of Abfarht - come into my life

I can still remember that accoustic break and haunting voice in that track like it was yesterday "I Dreamed I crossed an Ocean.." ya know how it goes.

Class

Marty

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Originally posted by Peter K Radagast is that a serious post?? Those aren't classics,they're merely tracks that s small majority of trance fans like.

lol sorry for being late but this is propably the top 5 dumbest post I've read here. hahah

Dance 2 Trance - We came in peace isnt on the list!

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Originally posted by aloep [color==#CD5C5C]Indeed it did. 1993: Zyon - No Fate The Visions Of Shiva - How Much Can You Take? Sven Vath - L'esperanza Paragliders - Bagdad Art Of Trance - Gloria color]

Zyon - No Fate, the original mix was produced in 1991, but the mix that made it famous, "the zyon - no fate(Mix 93')" was produced in 1993

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Originally posted by Peter K there are too many tracks in that list that IMO aren't worthy of being called classics..

+1

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Originally posted by Peter K Can I plz have some more opinions on Radagasts list of "classics" plz. Since when has Take Me Away been a classic?????????

seconded.

i wouldn't class those tracks as classics. good, but not classics.

lol @ the people suggesting "oh he has good taste in music so he must be right". bad arguments all round.

It's all in the interpretation of what "classic" means, imo.

Re: Trance Classics [1992 - 2001], please help me...

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Originally posted by TranceEuphoria Pulser : Cloudwalking (Ferry Corsten Remix)

Is this even real?

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK seconded. i wouldn't class those tracks as classics. good, but not classics. lol @ the people suggesting "oh he has good taste in music so he must be right". bad arguments all round. It's all in the interpretation of what "classic" means, imo.

Thing is, they are not classics for the epic trance people, but most probably classics to the people that were clubbing back in the early 90s. I can't give a full opinion on that cause i've only started clubbing like... in 2003

There's some absolute gems in his list tho.

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK seconded. i wouldn't class those tracks as classics. good, but not classics. lol @ the people suggesting "oh he has good taste in music so he must be right". bad arguments all round. It's all in the interpretation of what "classic" means, imo.

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for ppl that started listening to trance yesterday they are propably not classics.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 for ppl that started listening to trance yesterday they are propably not classics.

Define "classics". If this thread defines classics as "good tracks" then this thread would be as irrelevant as any other "bestest ever" TA thread. If it's recognised historic classics, many of the tracks a former incarnation of Radagast mentioned don't qualify either, because they are just old tracks that people consider good. But then again, most of the tracks people have mentioned in this thread aren't historic classics, just tracks people consider good.

The point? Everyone is a hypocrite, and so the tracks probably stand. But if they did, you'd have to acknowledge the shite many people have posted as classics.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Define "classics". If this thread defines classics as "good tracks" then this thread would be as irrelevant as any other "bestest ever" TA thread. If it's recognised historic classics, many of the tracks a former incarnation of Radagast mentioned don't qualify either, because they are just old tracks that people consider good. But then again, most of the tracks people have mentioned in this thread aren't historic classics, just tracks people consider good. The point? Everyone is a hypocrite, and so the tracks probably stand. But if they did, you'd have to acknowledge the shite many people have posted as classics.

for me a classic track is the same as a pinoneering track. one which breaks new ground for forthcoming tracks.
that's why I consider labels such as Eye Q and Superstition as classic labels. Most of their stuff shaped the trance we know today. Just take examples such as Vernon - Vernons Wonderland, Cygnus-X - Superstring/The Orange Theme. These are tracks which stood the test of time. They sound just as great as they did over 10 years ago. And the fact that they've also been re-released numerous times speaks for itself.
I agree that loads of tracks mentioned in this thread are neither groundbreaking or can hold the title of a classic.
still Radagast mentioned more classics than anyone else did in just one reply.

to those that say this isn't a good list of classics...well...do what i started doing and make your own personal list in excel hehe...i've got hundreds of tracks from each year that i think i great and are to me classic...

What Raddy seems to have missed here is that old =/= classic. I'm not going to comment on the stuff others have named, since they didn't show the "I'm right and if you disagree you're an idiot" attitude.

There are plenty of great oldschool goa tracks for example. Yet only a few are "classics"

Classic:
1. Belonging to the highest rank or class.
2. Serving as the established model or standard
3. Having lasting significance or worth; enduring.

That's how "classic" is defined. In other words, it is clearly put some effort into, was something new at the time, pushed the scene forward, and still doesn't sound old.

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Originally posted by DJ Cinos That's how "classic" is defined. In other words, it is clearly put some effort into, was something new at the time, pushed the scene forward, and still doesn't sound old.

just what i wrote in my post above you ;P

by the very nature of the definition of 'classic', any trance classics should ONLY include standard- or genre-creating productions and should NOT include any material that does neither. i don't pretend to know a sufficient amount of early standard- or genre-creating trance, but intuition tells me that any respectable and credible 'classic' trance list should only list pre-97 productions. anything newer is probably a copycat or a groundbreaking production that establishes a new branch in the EDM universe.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange by the very nature of the definition of 'classic', any trance classics should ONLY include standard- or genre-creating productions and should NOT include any material that does neither. i don't pretend to know a sufficient amount of early standard- or genre-creating trance, but intuition tells me that any respectable and credible 'classic' trance list should only list pre-97 productions. anything newer is probably a copycat or a groundbreaking production that establishes a new branch in the EDM universe.

So essentially there can be no recent innovative/groundbreaking trance, because any such tracks become their own genre/subgenre?

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