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Any that knows anything about soccer watched the Portugese guys fall every single time they were touched. Ricardo knew he was beat and fell to the ground hoping for call. I have lost all respect for all portugese bitches. I will never ever cheer for them again. The linesman knew it was a goal. It was just bad for Portugal to go out, it was evident the whole game in the fouls called and the type of fouls called.

I don't mind losing fair games but to lose of such a blatantly obvious bad call is horrible. England will never go far because nobody wants to see us win.

I agree Robinson should have been the starting goalie. I've been bitching about James the entire tourny. Man even the goalie on my national team is better than him.

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Now you know what it feels like to support Italy!

We were screwed over in World Cup 2002, and Euro 2004, well Trappatoni is a retard and he lost us the tournament by making those crappy substitutions against Sweden.

Anyway i thought you guys might need some cheering up.

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Terry all over Ricardo.

I think my voicebox exploded when we equalised to make it 2-2, I think you could hear me from portugal

shame it didnt account for anything in the end though

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Originally posted by Vigilante Hahahahahahahahahaha! Now you know what it feels like to support Italy! We were screwed over in World Cup 2002, and Euro 2004,

again.. no u wasnt..(maybe in 2002 but im thinking of 2k4) if u had won more games u wouldnt have been "screwed" so just blame urselfes..

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Originally posted by DJ.MD Any that knows anything about soccer watched the Portugese guys fall every single time they were touched. Ricardo knew he was beat and fell to the ground hoping for call. I have lost all respect for all portugese bitches. I will never ever cheer for them again. The linesman knew it was a goal. It was just bad for Portugal to go out, it was evident the whole game in the fouls called and the type of fouls called. I don't mind losing fair games but to lose of such a blatantly obvious bad call is horrible. England will never go far because nobody wants to see us win. I agree Robinson should have been the starting goalie. I've been bitching about James the entire tourny. Man even the goalie on my national team is better than him.

this is EXACTLY the way we all felt where we watched the game. The linesman was just as baffled as the Portuguese and English players when that Swiss fuck called it back. Reffing in soccer is worse than the NHL, the worst officiated league in history. Absolutely disgusting. Football really needs to examine the diving in this sport...it is costing the integrity of the game.

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Originally posted by Trance(PL) Terry all over Ricardo.

Both Terry and Campbell are going for the FUCKING BALL!!! How can it be a foul when the goalie is NOT in position to get the ball, but two English players are??? The line must be drawn...goalies get away with far too much as it is. That goal should have stood. Just becuase the goalie jumps for the ball...does that mean the opposition has to get out of his way? There is no physicality in football anymore, thanks to all the diving bloody Europeans. They have ruined the good old English game.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Both Terry and Campbell are going for the FUCKING BALL!!! How can it be a foul when the goalie is NOT in position to get the ball, but two English players are??? The line must be drawn...goalies get away with far too much as it is. That goal should have stood. Just becuase the goalie jumps for the ball...does that mean the opposition has to get out of his way? There is no physicality in football anymore, thanks to all the diving bloody Europeans. They have ruined the good old English game.

UEFA rules dude, inside his box he is protected, he went for the ball but couldn't get there because Terry held him down.

I don't like it either because I wanted Portugal to go out, but it is a 100% foul

Terry did NOT hold him down...he was going up for the ball the same as Campbell was! Ricardo went up for the ball and knocked into Terry and that Swiss fuck calls a foul, even when the linesman pointed to the net for it to be a goal? Come on...pussy European crap is what it is. THIS is EXACTLY why Americans (and Canadians) laugh about soccer...I love it personally, but it is far too pussy. The old English game was far more phsycial, but once FIFA was formed...the death of real football began. I wish the Brits were running things...the game would have a lot more respect.

Judge for yourselves.

seems like holland will be kicking portugese ass in the half finals

great game, england shouldnt have defended for 90 mins, they only held on for 80 and i love it how the loosing team always blame everything else except them selves (including holland)

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Judge for yourselves.

game, set, match. england WASN'T robbed.

Now that I see those pics it seems like a good decision by the ref to disallow that goal.. Terry seems to push Ricardo down. I'd have to see it in motion from that angle to be sure though.

No fucking way good decision, here's what happened if you watch the replay and not some picture, doesn't give the story; Campbell & Terry were right under the ball & jumped for it, John Terry, being human, has these things called arms, that **** Ricardo knowing that he aint gonna outjump big Sol Campbell just wedges himself under Terrys arm, HE MOVED UNDER TERRY, TERRY DIDNT MOVE TO OBSTRUCT HIM FFS then he pathetically falls over, but I guess you'd expect nothing less.....It's turning into a pussies game I tell thee.

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Originally posted by sector.30 No fucking way good decision, here's what happened if you watch the replay and not some picture, doesn't give the story; Campbell & Terry were right under the ball & jumped for it, John Terry, being human, has these things called arms, that **** Ricardo knowing that he aint gonna outjump big Sol Campbell just wedges himself under Terrys arm, HE MOVED UNDER TERRY, TERRY DIDNT MOVE TO OBSTRUCT HIM FFS then he pathetically falls over, but I guess you'd expect nothing less.....It's turning into a pussies game I tell thee.

Look at the last two pics. Are you going to tell me that Ricardo wedged himself into Terry's GRIP too? And why would Terry have his arms up in the first place? Wouldn't it be enough to just use his body to block Ricardo from getting anywhere near Sol Campbell?

I would like to see a vid of this situation though, just to be sure that these pics aren't lying.

I have the video on my computer and you'd have to be very hard pressed to give that as a foul really. I've watched it many times and to be honest that was a pathetic effort from Ricardo to save the ball. He just jumps into Terry's armpit. I've been in goal in situations like that and the easiest way to get a foul in scrambles is jumping into someone. Professionals know that too and this is a classic example. He was miles away from the ball and didn't have a chance against Campbell.

btw, wasn't there some play where we supposedly scored but the ref didn't give the goal to us neither? i don't remember it very well, cause of all the emotion and the beers, but some people were talking about it in other site. it's one of those plays where you shoot into the crossbar, it goes in and out again

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Originally posted by razmataz I have the video on my computer and you'd have to be very hard pressed to give that as a foul really. I've watched it many times and to be honest that was a pathetic effort from Ricardo to save the ball. He just jumps into Terry's armpit. I've been in goal in situations like that and the easiest way to get a foul in scrambles is jumping into someone. Professionals know that too and this is a classic example. He was miles away from the ball and didn't have a chance against Campbell.

Could you show us this video somehow? And while I agree that he probably couldn't have prevented the goal either way, those pics show that Terry has a firm grip around Ricardo's shoulder. I seriously doubt that he could somehow have jumped into Terry's grip like that.

@ paranoik0: Yea, there was a crossbar shot that went down on the goal line. Question is was it over it or not.

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Originally posted by sector.30 HE MOVED UNDER TERRY, TERRY DIDNT MOVE TO OBSTRUCT HIM FFS then he pathetically falls over,

come on, you can't seriously mean this. I feel very sorry for you guys but all the things about this goal and the referee is absolutely bullshit. That's all due to your current emotions, which I can understand. Even if I put myself in english shoes, I could not possibly see what the referee would have done wrong.

razmataz, what's the size of that vid of yours?

I'd like to see it.

Here is a virtual replay of cambell's disallowed goal. LINK

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Originally posted by Jantjeuh razmataz, what's the size of that vid of yours? I'd like to see it.

The video is 10 mbs, i dont know of any webspace but if you guys have any ideas i can upload it...

There is only a replay from behind the goal angle. But thats the best angle I believe. One thing that is a giveaway is right after the incident ricardo walks to the ref with his hands to his face like he got elbowed or something. So obviously even he didnt know what the foul was given for and was trying to justify an elbow there. And another thing, he didnt even jump. He just stuck into Terry. You can see that clearly on normal speed. Weird.

However, this is a very iffy one, Terry's arm is definitly around some part of Ricardo at some point close when to Campbell heads the ball but 1 thing must be asked: did he put it there? Your call really but I feel the call could very, very easily have gone the other way without much complaint. The linesman seems to think so too.

edit: another thing, people seem to compare this to Campbell's disallowed goal vs Argentina in WC 98. Ridiculous really because that was a clear foul. Shearer really laid it into the goalie back then. I love soccer. So much drama.

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Originally posted by razmataz And another thing, he didnt even jump. He just stuck into Terry. You can see that clearly on normal speed. Weird.

If I had Terry's arm clutching my shoulder like on those pics I wouldn't have much of a chance to jump up either. I assume that's what he wanted to complain about when he went to the ref. I've seen the whole hands to the face-thing happen on many occasions, even when the foul in question was caused due to a tackle to the player's legs. And we all know the portugese aren't exactly subtle when it comes to signaling that they are fouled..

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper If I had Terry's arm clutching my shoulder like on those pics I wouldn't have much of a chance to jump up either. I assume that's what he wanted to complain about when he went to the ref. I've seen the whole hands to the face-thing happen on many occasions, even when the foul in question was caused due to a tackle to the player's legs. And we all know the portugese aren't exactly subtle when it comes to signaling that they are fouled..

I think a part of me is talking out of experience. I have never played in a professional game (i.e. get paid for it) but I have played semi-pro all my life and sometimes got in goal. Im just saying in situations like that when the goalie is not that tall and has no hope against 6 ft defenders they tend to be opportunistic. It may all seem a blurry of excitement to the fans but these guys are pros and its all slow mo in their heads.

ALl said and done, England is out. And people will say this and that but the bottom line is they should never have defender such a slender lead for so long. Although they did defend well the odds were against them not to concede a goal. This team is good I think and had it not been for a 2 min stroke of great misfortune they may very well have been playing Greece tomorrow.

Then again, thats football. Kudos to Portugal.

ps: if you still want the video give me webspace

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Originally posted by paranoik0 btw, wasn't there some play where we supposedly scored but the ref didn't give the goal to us neither? i don't remember it very well, cause of all the emotion and the beers, but some people were talking about it in other site. it's one of those plays where you shoot into the crossbar, it goes in and out again

Yeah, it goes in and out, but no-one talks about it... it's just the talk about the (SUPPOSED) unfairly disallowed goal (that for me it's a fair decision). Anyway, either it was or it wasn't, the score won't change because of that. We won. Next time, you'll win. That's the way footie goes. And we needed to get even with those 0-10 of 1947...

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