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Posted by yahoo on Apr-30-2005 20:37:

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Yes they are. In general, people who have listenened to EDM (including trance) for years, will not vote for Tiesto, Armin or Ferry.

Well u can skip the dumb... And the fact that people that have been for a long time in EDM dont vote for tiesto, doesnt say anything about the (bad ) tastes of trance 'nOObs'... A better reason is that those people just want to find out about other names in the trance scene in stead of seeing the same name again & again, but thats got nothing to do with quality or st like that

Posted by Nayil on Apr-30-2005 21:25:

i was a tiesto lover until i heard GU 13 and Involver. And Ferrys Sets ofcourse. doesnt mean i dont like him....

Posted by PutBoy on Apr-30-2005 22:14:

Really guys, there are worse "#1":s, take Pulsedriver for example. His compilations are titled "Hard Dance Mania", when in fact they're neither hard nor mania, and the only ones who dance are the 11-year-olds. Sure Tiesto deserves a little better than to be placed in that category ("The-mainstream-number-ones"). Tiesto's performance (not mixing) is excellent, and he plays good tracks, nothing wrong with that. acctually he reminds me of Johan Gielen. Both of them just seem to have been born behind the turntables. But, their mixing-styles isn't always top-notch.

Posted by auranaut on Apr-30-2005 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by yahoo
Well u can skip the dumb... And the fact that people that have been for a long time in EDM dont vote for tiesto, doesnt say anything about the (bad :mad tastes of trance 'nOObs'... A better reason is that those people just want to find out about other names in the trance scene in stead of seeing the same name again & again, but thats got nothing to do with quality or st like that

It has everything to do with quality. Someone new to EDM will not recognize what's good and what's bad. You acquire a taste for music as you go.

Posted by JakeC on Apr-30-2005 23:52:

Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-30-2005 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Yes they are. In general, people who have listenened to EDM (including trance) for years, will not vote for Tiesto, Armin or Ferry.

In general people who have listened to EDM (including Trance) for years, don;t give a rat's ass about the DJ Mag poll, let alone vote on it.

Posted by auranaut on May-01-2005 00:28:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
In general people who have listened to EDM (including Trance) for years, don;t give a rat's ass about the DJ Mag poll, let alone vote on it.

meh. It's still fun to put down Tiesto whores.

Posted by tiesto14 on May-01-2005 02:06:

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Originally posted by auranaut
meh. It's still fun to put down Tiesto whores.

LOL

Posted by auranaut on May-01-2005 02:13:

kay, I've listened to ISOS4 now. It sucks more cock than... well, Tiesto whores. Utterly shit tracks, though by today's low standards I guess they're about average. No flow whatsoever, at the start of each CD it's just like jumping directly into the middle of a Tiesto set. Standard mixing = shit for a mix-CD. Chugs along with half-assed climaxes now and then. Too many shit vocal tracks; female on CD1, male on CD2.

Sounds like an episode of ASOT anyway.

EDIT: Perfect Silence was an okay finisher for CD1. The only highlight was Netherworld 2005, but you can't really give him credit for that.

Posted by tiesto14 on May-01-2005 02:24:

I havent heard ISOS4 yet...and dont really care to...

I think the series should of ended with ISOS2...
ISOS3 was blah....

ISOS4 is a double CD - against the original concept, also it has harder, techier tracks which also is not in the theme....all in all i wont be buying it....i will download it though...Tiesto gets enough cash from the shows i went to.

However the show he did last night...OMG the tracklist looks mint...i would have to say the nicest set since DD 02.02.02...making those horrid TIC sets (80% fillers) look like ass...

So i see a glimmer of hope.

Posted by auranaut on May-01-2005 03:20:

hm, just realised this isn't the ISOS4 thread. Yeah, I'm tired, goodnight.

Posted by Mr. Pink on May-01-2005 04:44:

Ok this is strictly my opinion:

my first party ever was Dj tiesto, live en las Cascadas Puerto rico (a waterpark), and i rolled with all of my life long friends at age 20.

amazing set.
best night of my life.

now, im older, ive seen so many more dj's, and ive seen tiesto on occasion again and again.

i must say, he's agood remixer, his tracklist is always solid, i wish he wouldnt play so many of HIS own songs, and i wish he would try a lot fukin harder in mixing the music like a real DJ does.......fukin slacker.

on the other hand, he made it. He got to the top and he wants to stay there. so let him. Let him fukin try

but there are tons of better dj's out there and even though Tiesto gave me the best night of my life, i will not hold that in his favor against other dj's that are much more skilled than him.

let the music play on.

ill listen

tiesto is tight, but not the tightest.

ba-BAM!

Posted by Blue. on May-01-2005 05:20:

People have no taste.

Proof of this is that when he was amazing, creating remixes of tracks like Flesh and Innocente, putting together amazing sets and making great productions not too many people were fans of him.

Now his sets have gone to shit and he hasn't made anything amazing in years and people love him.

Posted by Mr. Pink on May-01-2005 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
People have no taste.

Proof of this is that when he was amazing, creating remixes of tracks like Flesh and Innocente, putting together amazing sets and making great productions not too many people were fans of him.

Now his sets have gone to shit and he hasn't made anything amazing in years and people love him.

and your mom's a 2 dollar hoe-

im not complaining, am i?

Posted by Blue. on May-01-2005 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
and your mom's a 2 dollar hoe-

im not complaining, am i?

I never complain when I have a beer in one hand, chips in the other and am watching TV while getting a blowjob.

Posted by Mr. Pink on May-01-2005 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
I never complain when I have a beer in one hand, chips in the other and am watching TV while getting a blowjob.

i dont think i would either

Posted by Coffee on May-01-2005 07:16:

who else can do it?

tell me another Dj who can sell out 25.000 people areas back to back!
? then I will consider if they should be number 1!!
tiesto is number 1 again three years in a row becuase he is POPULAR
he is a celebrity! he packs concerts , partys like no other can!

Posted by Blue. on May-01-2005 07:20:

Re: who else can do it?

quote:
Originally posted by Coffee
tell me another Dj who can sell out 25.000 people areas back to back!
? then I will consider if they should be number 1!!
tiesto is number 1 again three years in a row becuase he is POPULAR
he is a celebrity! he packs concerts , partys like no other can!

Exactly. Chingy was popular, Britney Spears was popular, etc. They sold millions of copies of their albums and sold out their shows.

I hate when in an argument such as this people equate talent with album sales and general popularity. If a DJ you absolutely hate became the number one DJ in the world would you all of a sudden realize his talent? Likely not.

Posted by Absolut_Vodka on May-01-2005 07:56:

quote:
Originally posted by pyro264jb
derek howell will take over the scene within a year.

nuff said about dat

its true

Posted by yahoo on May-01-2005 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
It has everything to do with quality. Someone new to EDM will not recognize what's good and what's bad. You acquire a taste for music as you go.

I am sorry, that is pure nonsense. So u r saying that everyone over here who is for instance a member since lets say 2000 will recognise when a track or set has quality? Why then do u still disagree with eachother on for instance new tracks (some of the 'long in EDM' people think its shit and some label it a killer track), when u all have acquired 'good' taste...? It seems like u have to stop calling the stuff 'bad' that u personally dont like. There is no good or bad in music, because its all about TASTE and that is as subjective as can be.

BTW: still a junior addict over here, but that doesnt mean that i am new to EDM

Posted by JakeC on May-01-2005 08:48:

basically the way i see it....

if he tightened up his mixing and learnt about Phrases then he would deseverdly be no.1

Posted by Omega_Blue on May-01-2005 08:51:

nah. i don't think any dj out there is good enough to be #1 three consecutive years.

but then again, "dj lists are a popularity contest look at james zabiela not being on the top blah blah blah"

Posted by JakeC on May-01-2005 08:55:

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue
nah. i don't think any dj out there is good enough to be #1 three consecutive years.

but then again, "dj lists are a popularity contest look at james zabiela not being on the top blah blah blah"

he deserved it the first year 2002 but the other two were justhis marketing machine on full power

Posted by Blue. on May-01-2005 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by yahoo
I am sorry, that is pure nonsense. So u r saying that everyone over here who is for instance a member since lets say 2000 will recognise when a track or set has quality? Why then do u still disagree with eachother on for instance new tracks (some of the 'long in EDM' people think its shit and some label it a killer track), when u all have acquired 'good' taste...? It seems like u have to stop calling the stuff 'bad' that u personally dont like. There is no good or bad in music, because its all about TASTE and that is as subjective as can be.

BTW: still a junior addict over here, but that doesnt mean that i am new to EDM

Do you think that TA is the only place on the world where EDM fans congregate? It's pretty ignorant to use an example of membership length considering someone who joined in 2000 may have just started to listen whereas someone who joined last year could have started listening to EDM 10 years ago.

Who would you trust on an opinion for a new track that you've never heard but want to purchase on vinyl, someone who started listening to EDM last week or someone who started listening to it 5 years ago?

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-01-2005 19:07:

Re: who else can do it?

quote:
Originally posted by Coffee
tell me another Dj who can sell out 25.000 people areas back to back!
? then I will consider if they should be number 1!!
tiesto is number 1 again three years in a row becuase he is POPULAR
he is a celebrity! he packs concerts , partys like no other can!

Fatboy Slim has played to crowds of 300,000 and 250,000. Oakey has headlined Glastonbury, and warmed up for U2 and Madonna,not to mention playing open air stadiums. 25,000 isn't a very big attendance number.

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