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Posted by DigDeep on May-02-2006 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Hold up now, I have to disagree with you here Scott. It's not a matter of trying to make the club feel like it belongs somewhere else. The vibe of the party comes from the people not the venue. As long as it's Toronto partiers at a club in Toronto it will have a Toronto vibe. Just because a club emulates the decore, set up, attention to detail that exists in other locations doesn't mean they are trying to change the Toronto scene.... they're just adding a new element, enriching what we already have.





Posted by CandyGirl on May-02-2006 19:33:

Re: How do you say....

quote:
Originally posted by Tribesman
How do you say...
IGNORANT IN FRENCH??

and now days with all the shit that goes ABOUT ,bird flue ,aids,ebola etc. who knows?



How do you say, OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER in French?

You do realize there is therapy available for germaphobs like yourself... or alternatively, you can simply stay home.



Posted by ChemEnhanced on May-02-2006 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Hold up now, I have to disagree with you here Scott. It's not a matter of trying to make the club feel like it belongs somewhere else. The vibe of the party comes from the people not the venue. As long as it's Toronto partiers at a club in Toronto it will have a Toronto vibe. Just because a club emulates the decore, set up, attention to detail that exists in other locations doesn't mean they are trying to change the Toronto scene.... they're just adding a new element, enriching what we already have.


Oh I don't know....I agree that a part of the vibe comes from the people at the club. The atmosphere of the club itself also helps in bringing out the vibe from the people. There has always been a different vibe depending on which club you are in. The vibe I feel from The Guv, System, Gallery, Viva, PR are all different.....even though I will be there with the same people. The venue has a big factor in the vibe you get out of people....people feed off what surrounds them and then also feed off the other people within the venue. This goes with any surrounding....your surrounds have a major affect on how you feel.

If Toronto wants to be on the same playing field as New York and that then they need to have something that brings people from those cities here. If they already have it at home then only the talent will bring them here.


Posted by musicsnob_NOT on May-02-2006 19:36:

Re: Re: Crobar - Miami - Victor Calderone

quote:
Originally posted by raverjo
may 12 2006 - victor calderone -at this is london /no CC there ha ha ha
I am soo there


If you think the gays won't be at TIL for Calderone...haha...they might have their shirts on, but the club will be over 50% gay...and I will also guarentee that the vibe will be nothing like it will be when he starts playing at Sonic


Posted by MissM on May-02-2006 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by iLLnaDa
Steve ur post just gave me chills !!!

I can't wait to experience SONIC on MAY 13TH!!!!

If u don't like gays, shirtless men, sweat, lotsa ppl.... a LOT OF US WISH THAT YOU WILL NOT BE THERE!

~peace~


+1


Posted by CandyGirl on May-02-2006 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
the debate going on in this thread is beyond pointless.


I agree 100%.

You're either on board with what David Morales is bringing to Toronto or you aren't.... it's as simple as that.

Considering the fact that Morales is already the owner of one of the top 10 clubs in the world AND has over 30 years of experience in the business, I know who has my loyalty.

And for those of you who think you know better than Morales, please post your credentials first.



.


Posted by RedOne63 on May-02-2006 20:09:

Sonic Review

As we�re all inexperienced clubbers , we got to Sonic shortly before 1am, and experienced the lineup from hell. First off, we had to figure out which line; presales in one, VIP/non ticket holders in the other. My other friends waited in line while I went to go check out the people, looking for some other Stereoheads. There were none there yet, but a friendly, happy vibe (at the beginning). No snobbiness (I was expecting it, it is TO). Back in line, and then another walkabout, this time with Kara.

Still no heads, but when we got back towards the front door, we saw DJ Max Julien. I went off to have a smoke, and started talking to the outdoor security, then went back, and luckily�in we went. Max, a big, huge THANK YOU! (Our other friends, sadly, didn�t get in until 4:30AM).

Another line up inside, along the staircase, then searched, I had emptied all my pockets (forgetting my jacket cause I was gonna check it), security girl got pissed at me! No biggie, then onto coat check�then through the curtain�and we�re in!

A lobby type entrance, a little water bar, little chill area, and a painted picture of Mr. Morales (the ad for the AIDS campaign).

Another curtain�more stairs�and we�re really in�I would describe the room almost like an hour glass, but rectangular, two large staircases which opened up towards the back, top of one of the staircases (there were lots, trust me) there�s an alcove where (I think) the visuals were being done, beautiful disco ball center floor, another staircase on the other side of this, and instead of an alcove, a built in corridor with a few single bathrooms (long lineups there most of the night).

Behind this 2 stacks speakers with a platform in the middle. Turned around, wow, facing the booth, with stairs to either side, and more chill/dance space, and water bar behind it, then more stairs, again with more dance/chill areas, and another longer water bar. The stairs to go down to the patio were right beside this bar. It got really crowded there with all us smokers going back & forth! I think there was a VIP on the other side, but I didn�t go check. All the chill spots had low couches on three sides, lots of places to sit. No sitting on any of the stairs though, wide enough to dance on, but not high enough apart to sit. Great lighting, beautiful new floors from front to back.

Nevio was great, had me dancing while I was back in the first line up. It wasn�t packed yet, people were still getting in slowly, but it looked like almost everyone who was there was dancing. Then Frankie Knuckles, wow! I�ve heard him spin a couple of times, and for me this was the best yet, funky and a little slower and darker at times, and then he�d pick it right back up again. I went out during his set for a smoke break, and came back in to a packed solid club. Didn�t want to stay off the floor, but the heat had me going out for smoke breaks more than usual.

Then David Morales got on the decks. You could see he was enjoying himself, and really working the system. The volume got much louder, you can hear where the sound needs to be improved. But man, can he spin! This was my first time experiencing him in a venue other than Stereo, and he didn�t disappoint! Kudos!

I was thrilled when I started seeing my fellow stereoheads, the ones from Montreal, and the ones from TO. When I met up with some of the staff, (Pierre was the first one I saw), it felt just like home. I had already met a few people outside during my walkabouts, and then just more & more people were just coming up and introducing themselves, and dancing with me, it was wicked! Actually, for me, the friendliest crowd ever. I met new people from New Brunswick, Newfoundland, Winnipeg, Aurora, Ajax, and Italy! Friendliest vibe ever (for me), and that�s saying a lot.

It looked like everyone was out to have a good time, everyone was dancing to Morales. One of my favorite parts, dancing right in front of the booth with Niko and Jung (HOT!), felt just like being home. And Marco, it was great dancing with you in your home town. Surprisingly, considering how packed it got, I didn�t get pushed around as often as I do at Stereo, and everyone apologized. And�no sketch�none�no stalkers, no strangeness at all. Amazing!

All the staff was courteous, polite, and friendly. Big thanks also to 2 of the security, Ray & Shane, you guys helped big time.

I got dragged off the dance floor at 12:10, party was still going strong, but we had to head back home. I didn�t get to say goodbye�

So, to all involved, congratulations! I think it was one hell of a great opening, and I was glad to be there. I look forward to a return visit.

And to all those people complaing about no shirts, sweaty bodies�get over it! It�s an afterhours! Those sweaty bodies are there to dance..and that�s what they were doing!

xxxooo
Loretta


Posted by CandyGirl on May-02-2006 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears
So lemme get this straight...

- TiL is too pretentious and stuck up
- Guv has too many sketched out asians and is too packed all the time
- Fly has way too many Gay guys
- Lot 332 and Mink are too poshy and mainstream
- CoZo is too scary and sketchy
- Money, Republik and any other clubs that don't play your style of music are no good to you

- SONIC, on grand opening night no less, had a huge line-up, was a little disorganized and too many gay guys

If I was a club owner I would be pulling my hair out right now. This city is full of nothing but whiners and little kids that have too many toys to play with but yet still want more. What more do you people want? I always here people saying "why can't we have clubs like Ibiza, Miami, New York, Montreal...."....guess what people???

DAVID MORALES IS BRINGING US THAT CLUB!!!

I guess the real question is, is Toronto ready or even want that kind of club? I know I do, and I know about 2000 people last Saturday night do. It seems everyone wants everything to be there way, all the time and the minute something goes against what they want, they bitch and complain...but yet still go back to the same club week in and week out??? If you seem to find yourself constantly picking apart a club instead of enjoying the music...maybe you're better off staying at home in your basement and listening to mixed CD's you've made.

Is it any wonder that Danny Tenaglia vowed he would never play in Toronto again after Industry closed? Maybe because that was the last time Toronto has seen a true afterhours club. And does it not make sence that the man behind Boa, which got Danny T back to Toronto, is also now the talent coordinator at Sonic? Makes you think that someone actually might know what they're doing and are damn good at it.

Sonic is bringing us the afterhours experience, amazing international talent, the best Toronto local resident and doing it all in a slick as hell atmosphere with an unparalelled sound system. There is going to be gay guys, straight guys, shirtless guys,...it,s gonna be packed, there will be lines at times....but for god's sake people...it's gonna be the best club in the city....that is if you truly understand the music and everything that comes with it.




Hands down, the best post in this thread!




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Posted by DigDeep on May-02-2006 20:19:

Re: Sonic Review

quote:
Originally posted by RedOne63


to have a MTL'er post a review like this about a club in TO was completely unheard of before april 29th.


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-02-2006 20:25:

Re: Re: How do you say....

quote:
Originally posted by CandyGirl
How do you say, OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER in French?


OCD!

Good for you, good for me. for me (1). for me (2). for me (3). for me (4). for me (5).


Posted by TJB on May-02-2006 20:26:

Hey RJ where are your pics at???


Posted by DigDeep on May-02-2006 20:27:

Re: Re: Re: How do you say....

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
OCD!

Good for you, good for me. for me (1). for me (2). for me (3). for me (4). for me (5).


Rj, Graham, Tara..... it was wicked having you guys back for some tuness....


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-02-2006 20:33:

Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you say....

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
Rj, Graham, Tara..... it was wicked having you guys back for some tuness....


Thank you for the hospitality!


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-02-2006 20:34:

Hello!

quote:
Originally posted by TJB
Hey RJ where are your pics at???


I'm seriously behind on the photos. I haven't done BeB, SF or Sonic!

I will them all tonight! Stay tuned.


Posted by TJB on May-02-2006 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
Rj, Graham, Tara..... it was wicked having you guys back for some tuness....



Thanks for having us. It was great to hear you on the decks again, now if only I could make out when you're in front of more people... One of these days...

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I'm seriously behind on the photos. I haven't done BeB, SF or Sonic!

I will them all tonight! Stay tuned.


WOOHOO I can't wait.


Posted by AC-Milan on May-02-2006 20:44:

Re: Re: Re: Crobar - Miami - Victor Calderone

quote:
Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
If you think the gays won't be at TIL for Calderone...haha...they might have their shirts on, but the club will be over 50% gay...and I will also guarentee that the vibe will be nothing like it will be when he starts playing at Sonic


why do they follow Calderone? Does he represent their untraditional orientation?


Posted by Tribesman on May-02-2006 20:55:

Victor Calderone....

quote:
Originally posted by AC-Milan
why do they follow Calderone? Does he represent their untraditional orientation?


Well let's just say that there's a symbiotic relationship between gay clubbers and V. Calderone....

He made his name at LIQUID SUNDAYS IN SOUTH BEACH (Those were the days!!) which was a gay nite... That's where he got the Ingrid Casares/Madonna hook up and the rest is history...

He made us queens dance, we made him resident DJ and his talent made him a star.....


Posted by The Highroller on May-02-2006 21:03:

Re: Sonic Review

quote:
Originally posted by RedOne63


Excellent review.

It's amazing how all of you Montrealers came out to this party. I'm glad you had fun!


Posted by MarkT on May-02-2006 21:09:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Crobar - Miami - Victor Calderone

quote:
Originally posted by AC-Milan
why do they follow Calderone? Does he represent their untraditional orientation?


He doesn't "respresent" anything...why would you say that?

He no doubt is quite aware of the massive support he's received from the gay community for the better part of a decade and regularly headlines at NYC Pride.


Posted by Patius on May-02-2006 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by RedOne63


Loretta, darling - I couldn't have written a better review. I hope to experience this new club soon, so I can actually also write a review about it.

Sonic - get ready because more Montrealers are traveling again this weekend to check out the place - and knowing Danny Torrence style, I know he is going to put a show in Toronto.

Patius


Posted by Sean Cassidy on May-03-2006 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears
So lemme get this straight...

- TiL is too pretentious and stuck up
- Guv has too many sketched out asians and is too packed all the time
- Fly has way too many Gay guys
- Lot 332 and Mink are too poshy and mainstream
- CoZo is too scary and sketchy
- Money, Republik and any other clubs that don't play your style of music are no good to you

- SONIC, on grand opening night no less, had a huge line-up, was a little disorganized and too many gay guys

If I was a club owner I would be pulling my hair out right now. This city is full of nothing but whiners and little kids that have too many toys to play with but yet still want more. What more do you people want? I always here people saying "why can't we have clubs like Ibiza, Miami, New York, Montreal...."....guess what people???

DAVID MORALES IS BRINGING US THAT CLUB!!!

I guess the real question is, is Toronto ready or even want that kind of club? I know I do, and I know about 2000 people last Saturday night do. It seems everyone wants everything to be there way, all the time and the minute something goes against what they want, they bitch and complain...but yet still go back to the same club week in and week out??? If you seem to find yourself constantly picking apart a club instead of enjoying the music...maybe you're better off staying at home in your basement and listening to mixed CD's you've made.

Is it any wonder that Danny Tenaglia vowed he would never play in Toronto again after Industry closed? Maybe because that was the last time Toronto has seen a true afterhours club. And does it not make sence that the man behind Boa, which got Danny T back to Toronto, is also now the talent coordinator at Sonic? Makes you think that someone actually might know what they're doing and are damn good at it.

Sonic is bringing us the afterhours experience, amazing international talent, the best Toronto local resident and doing it all in a slick as hell atmosphere with an unparalelled sound system. There is going to be gay guys, straight guys, shirtless guys,...it,s gonna be packed, there will be lines at times....but for god's sake people...it's gonna be the best club in the city....that is if you truly understand the music and everything that comes with it.


WIKKID POST.......

and reading through all the comments in this thread - it is not at all surprising.......some people say that "Toronto people don't know how to party - I can agree with that statement totally (not always but quite often enough that is is disheartening) - there are those that do it up properly - put music and friends first......and over the last 15 years.....this perfect combination of friends and music coming first seems to have been replaced with posturing/posing and lack of understanding for the music and huge dose of antisocial drugs and an air of self-rightousness with a touch of ignorance and intolerance.......

as a few people mentioned.....

GET A GRIP
THIS IS AN AFTERHOURS
TORONTO NEEDS THIS SPACE
COULD BE AN ANSWER TO THE VOID INDUSTRY LEFT WHEN IT CLOSED

and Steve I wish this last point could happen........but with comments like this from just a sampling of internet posters with a SUPPOSED HIGHER KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONCEPTS OF CLUBBING NUANCES......this is an indication of why this may not happen.....which is truly sad - I LOVED THAT PLACE LIKE NO OTHER and the organic way it grew into what it was may never be replicated in the environment we have have now with an almost SEGREGATED viewpoint of what should be or not be allowed......who in the hell do people think they are trying to force their OWN supposed rules to how house music should make you feel and act.....

there should only be/is one rule:

HOUSE MUSIC HAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A SPIRITUAL THING - A BODY THING -- A SOUL THING

which ever way you are moved/inclined/able to find THOSE 3 THINGS...... whatever makes you JACK - is personal and individualistic ....eschewing CONFORMITY AND BOUNDARY SETTING...it is what house music was born from and people should remember that SHIT!

P.S. Congrats to Carey/Jeff/Tara/JennStar/Gavin/Gairy and the rest of the SONIC team....take some heed from the door/coatcheck/greased bouncers comments in this thread - and iron that shit out - and then proceed to show the "UNEDUCATED - WHAT THE HELL HOUSE IS ABOUT!"

WE GOTTA RETURN TO THAT FEELING......

SHOW THEM WHOSE GOT THE BIGGEST BALLS - WHILST TEARING DOWN THE WALLS!


Posted by 2famous4u on May-03-2006 00:14:

Does anyone have photos from the Grand Opening of Sonic?


Posted by Sean Cassidy on May-03-2006 00:18:

p.s. the MONTREAL crew had no problems and everyone says that MONTREAL PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO PARTY....

just an observation......


Posted by Patius on May-03-2006 00:21:

pictures of the grand "ouverture"

just click on the link below:
http://www.house-pacific.com




Posted by Patius on May-03-2006 00:23:


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