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Posted by TheVrk on Apr-02-2007 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Sly_Guy
I don't think we're ready for the playoffs just yet. I'm still quite the skeptic with that raps, but I still like seeing them win.

Its def nice to see them winning and doing well...
But I really dont like a first round matchup with Miami.
If Miami can win the Southeast and drop Washington to 6th, then i'd def favour the Raptors.
If its Miami, then TO is done...not without a good fight tho


Posted by exstasie on Apr-02-2007 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
Its def nice to see them winning and doing well...
But I really dont like a first round matchup with Miami.
If Miami can win the Southeast and drop Washington to 6th, then i'd def favour the Raptors.
If its Miami, then TO is done...not without a good fight tho


True, but we need to keep playing well so we can keep the 3rd spot! We don't want to fall to fourth and have to end up playing Chicago first round. Chicago > Miami IMO.

I think the Raps could give any team a good run for their money, but yeah, best chance would be against Wizards.

2nd place would be even better...Raps for Nets? That would be a great rivalry!


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-02-2007 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
True, but we need to keep playing well so we can keep the 3rd spot! We don't want to fall to fourth and have to end up playing Chicago first round. Chicago > Miami IMO.

I think the Raps could give any team a good run for their money, but yeah, best chance would be against Wizards.

2nd place would be even better...Raps for Nets? That would be a great rivalry!


I agree. Detroit and Chicago would be our hardest opponents. Cleveland maybe...but their PG situation is crap so if we play solid against them we can win. Miami, whether with Wade or not, we could take them. If Wade comes back then he's going to be out of a rhythm with the team, so the Raptors could capitalize on that. Washington, especially with their latest injury, I expect us to just roll over them.

The fact that they haven't played in the play-offs yet doesn't mean THAT much. People are really putting too much emphasis on that aspect without realizing that a lot of their players have played in important games. Plus, the depth they have will go a long way towards outlasting their opponents.


Posted by T@^K on Apr-02-2007 22:22:

I went 2 the game yesterday and i looked at more blondes then watch basketball...


Posted by jon jon on Apr-02-2007 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I agree. Detroit and Chicago would be our hardest opponents. Cleveland maybe...but their PG situation is crap so if we play solid against them we can win. Miami, whether with Wade or not, we could take them. If Wade comes back then he's going to be out of a rhythm with the team, so the Raptors could capitalize on that. Washington, especially with their latest injury, I expect us to just roll over them.

The fact that they haven't played in the play-offs yet doesn't mean THAT much. People are really putting too much emphasis on that aspect without realizing that a lot of their players have played in important games. Plus, the depth they have will go a long way towards outlasting their opponents.


I agree 100% with everything said here.


Posted by shanny on Apr-03-2007 04:40:

Pistons!!!!!!!


Posted by jon jon on Apr-03-2007 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by shanny
Pistons!!!!!!!


I will smash your face


Posted by MKpacha on Apr-03-2007 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
I will smash your face


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-03-2007 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
I will smash your face


LOL

BTW, did you guys know that since the beginning of 2007, the Raptors have been the best team in the Eastern Conference?


Posted by askme on Apr-04-2007 02:31:

I think Sam Mitchell is the biggest problem that can potentially prevent Raptors from doing well in post-season. This game vs Miami just nailed it for me. Just my opinion...

Looking forward to next season when he's gone. lol


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-04-2007 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by askme
I think Sam Mitchell is the biggest problem that can potentially prevent Raptors from doing well in post-season. This game vs Miami just nailed it for me. Just my opinion...

Looking forward to next season when he's gone. lol


how so and what makes you so sure he's gone?


Posted by MarkT on Apr-04-2007 02:41:

^^^ rumours are he'll take over Bickerstaff's head coaching job in Charlotte when he retires this year. I don't buy it...I think Colangelo makes Sam one hell of a good contract offer. If he doesn't, he'd better have one *hell* of a replacement in mind, because I think Sam has been stellar.

quote:
Originally posted by askme
I think Sam Mitchell is the biggest problem that can potentially prevent Raptors from doing well in post-season. This game vs Miami just nailed it for me. Just my opinion...

Looking forward to next season when he's gone. lol


you've got to be kidding...the *last* thing this team needs is yet another coaching change. I'm not the GM, but I'd be offering him one hell of a contract to stick around...the rumours of other teams trying to lure him away have already begun.

Sam has come a long way since he first took the helm...instead of coaches anonymously making fun of his lack of intuitiveness and poor coaching decisions, he's being openly praised by his peers.

There is *zero* dissent in the locker room, from all accounts...and a team that's be revamped nearly from top to bottom is on the verge of winning their division for the first time in team history.

TJ Ford made a horrible decision on the 2nd last possession...the ball should have been in someone's hands who was going to drive to the basket. Sure, he hits those shots often enough...but a layup or dunk is a *way* higher % shot and also comes with the opportunity to draw a foul. Open, off balance jumper with tons of time on the clock...not so bright.

They should have left Calderon in for the end of the game, IMHO...he's bigger, better defensively and would have found a teammate instead of taking a crap shot.

just my opinion...I love TJ, but those were two poor decisions at the end.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-04-2007 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
They should have left Calderon in for the end of the game, IMHO...he's bigger, better defensively and would have found a teammate instead of taking a crap shot.


I love Sam but to be honest, he's the one that put Ford back in the game, and designed the final play.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-04-2007 04:02:

I haven't seen the game, but TJ's made quite a few big shots before, and he's the number 1 PG. He's been more consistent offensively than Calderon who may be a better passer, but shooting wise sketchy at times.

Hindsight is 20/20. Ford is still learning the game and is a young guard.

I don't expect perfection every game.

As for Mitchell leaving rumours, it'll be nuts for the Raps to have a head coach change when they are finally on right track.
Other than few head coaches in NBA, getting someone else would be a downgrade IMO


Posted by MarkT on Apr-04-2007 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I love Sam but to be honest, he's the one that put Ford back in the game, and designed the final play.


true...but I think Sam's decision ends with the ball being in TJ's hands. i.e. I highly doubt he specifially called for Ford to shoot or even wanted that as the primary option...that's TJ's decision to drive, shoot or pass.

meh...I guess that's all speculation on my part

Calderon had the hotter hand tonight (nevermind shooting 53% vs. TJ's 44% on the season) and putting in Ford *right* at the end struck me as pointless.

oh well...here's hoping they can score home court advantage for the playoffs!


Posted by askme on Apr-04-2007 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
^^^
They should have left Calderon in for the end of the game, IMHO...he's bigger, better defensively and would have found a teammate instead of taking a crap shot.


Well, that's the problem. When you say 'THEY', who decided to bring in Ford in the last 40 secs of the game? Not Calderon. I just question some of his moves. There are plenty of nights when Calderon outplays Ford, WHY NOT just keep him through the end if he is playing waaaay better than Ford.

And comments about Ford being more consistent?! Calderon shooting the ball waaaay better, and has less turnovers too.. not to say that I dont like Ford all I'm saying is that they have to be coached right and the one that plays better on any given night should finish the game, because in my opinion they are both good.

Oh well, on the bright sight Luke Jackson played sick in his frist (real) game as a Raptor, wonder how he does down the road. And cant wait for playoffs baby! GO Raps Go!!! lol ONIONS!


Posted by Pett on Apr-04-2007 04:39:

Jackson!
that guy is awesome, if the raps fluked a win tonite it would have been because of this guy, nice passes, nice dunk, good effort overall. he wont be d-leauge for long.


Posted by MarkT on Apr-04-2007 05:10:

Jackson looked pretty good, didn't he?

this could be yet another shrewd move on the part of Colangelo...after all, Jackson was a lottery pick a few years ago. I really hope they invite him to camp next year...why the hell not, especially if MoPete is gone (and he will be)?

I found a funny quote, typical Sam, from Yahoo! Sports' 'rumours' section online, which in turn referenced a Toronto Sun article:

quote:
Raptors' Mitchell upset about Bobcats rumors
Tuesday, Apr 3, 2007 11:52 am EDT

Toronto Raptor' coach Sam Mitchell was less than enthused when asked about reports he would become the next coach for the Charlotte Bobcats.

"How quickly do you want me to walk out of here?" he said during a media conference. "Lombo (Raptors media relations director Jim LaBumbard) told me about it and showed me the paper it was written on, and I filed it right where it should go, in the thing that swings back and forth, that they pick up once a week on the side of the curb."


Source: Toronto Sun


LOL...I love this guy.

I have two things on my "I will boycott the Raps if..." list. One is bringing Vince Carter back...two is not making a generous offer for Mitchell to come back after this year.


Posted by Porky on Apr-05-2007 19:46:

if the raptors can maintain 3rd spot, and the wizards can maintain 6th....than it should be a breeze for the raps to advance to round2 of the playoffs, esp with the injuries to both caron butler and gilbert arenas. without both stars, the wizards are a lottery college team


Posted by TheVrk on Apr-06-2007 07:48:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I agree. Detroit and Chicago would be our hardest opponents.

Definitely.

I'm one that thinks Sam Mitchell is a very good coach.
Anyone here who's nit-picking on a certain sub here, a bad play-call threre, must not understand.
Its not play-calling and one or 2 bad subs, its the way he gets the team to play.
The Raps hustle and play like a team. A LOT of NBA teams wish they could have both of these attributes.

Some of you are forgetting, the Raps WON the Atlantic division and are 3RD after NOT making the playoffs for how many yrs
K the division is shit, but c'mon, they're fucking 3rd in the East!
You replace Mitchell, then whats the standard next yr??
Does the next coach HAVE TO win the East to keep his job???
According to these standards, he would have to....

The worst thing any franchise can do is go through musical chairs of coaches.
You need stability and continuity in everything from player personnel, style of play, coaching, ownership etc....

Again, SO many owners/GMs wish their teams hustled and played like a team EVERY game.
The Raps have that


Posted by TheVrk on Apr-06-2007 08:26:

More pro-Sam Mitchell
ESPN.com:
quote:
First, the Raptors added nine new players this season, including several from overseas. Yet Mitchell's gotten them to mesh together and play as a well-oiled machine. Since starting the season 13-19, the Raptors have gone 28-13.

Second, and in my opinion even more impressively, Mitchell has kept his team winning while his best players have been out with injuries. All four of the Raptors starters outside of Rasho Nesterovic have missed at least six games this season.

Surely some of you were not aware of this


Posted by slingshot on Apr-07-2007 06:24:

First division title in franchise history baby. What a fucking year! Finally some good times in Raptorland.

SuperJimbo will be holding a party to celebrate the seasons success. PM him for details.


Posted by exstasie on Apr-07-2007 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
First division title in franchise history baby. What a fucking year! Finally some good times in Raptorland.

SuperJimbo will be holding a party to celebrate the seasons success. PM him for details.


Congrats to The RAps! They deserve it!

But they need to keep playing hard!

Right now they would be playing the Wizards which would be great since the Wizards have quite a few injuries right now and we could take them.

If we somehow make it 2nd then we'd possibly face the Nets..which would be one hell of a series!


Posted by MarkT on Apr-07-2007 18:49:

and a big "ha, FUCK YOU!" to all the media publications who had the Raps finishing at or near the bottom in the entire league.

n00bs.

they stunned even me...at the beginning of this thread, based upon their lineup, I predicted a 6th place finish in the conference.

I'm pleased to see myself proven wrong

Jose and TJ have been better than expected (this early in their careers), Bosh has taken it to another level and the depth on the team has allowed them to deal with various injuries.

So I guess it's not finalized...but Washington, without Arenas, is DONE...especially with Butler out too. I really hope we end up playing them first round.


Posted by Porky on Apr-07-2007 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Congrats to The RAps! They deserve it!

But they need to keep playing hard!

Right now they would be playing the Wizards which would be great since the Wizards have quite a few injuries right now and we could take them.

If we somehow make it 2nd then we'd possibly face the Nets..which would be one hell of a series!


we'll def coast into 2nd round w/o the Wizard's top 2 players

but doubtful that we'll get served the patsy nets for round2

w/o garbosa/bargnani (who were part of our 2k7 surge) it will be difficult


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