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Originally posted by chach lol i cant belive i read this whole thread! why cant he use the the qoute function it amazes me!

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I was wondering the same.

I read upto 11 pages and couldn't find any good reason to waste my time on such BS.

I hope american people know the fact that persians have no beef with them. Although the government is fullfilled with some religious freaks but there's no way that iran become a threat to outside world. However it's a disaster for inside the country since Iran has a lot of potential beeing very rich but still majority of population are living in poor conditions in compare with the west.

Iran's government is seeking for nuclear technology to secure its place inside iran . Surely they have no intention on starting a war with any nation since all their motive is to stay in power. They're smart enough to know that if they start a war their dynasty will be over.

lol i cant belive i read this whole thread!

why cant he use the the qoute function it amazes me!

I dunno

use teh qoute function or suffer mass anal rape

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Originally posted by extacy_bomb I read upto 11 pages and couldn't find any good reason to waste my time on such BS.

But after page 11 is when it gets really good!

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I hope american people know the fact that persians have no beef with them. Although the government is fullfilled with some religious freaks but there's no way that iran become a threat to outside world. However it's a disaster for inside the country since Iran has a lot of potential beeing very rich but still majority of population are living in poor conditions in compare with the west. Iran's government is seeking for nuclear technology to secure its place inside iran . Surely they have no intention on starting a war with any nation since all their motive is to stay in power. They're smart enough to know that if they start a war their dynasty will be over.

Yeah, the regime is actually between a rock and a hard place, so of course they're positioning themselves as strong. Their people don't really like them, and neither does the international community. Their only alternative for reaching legitimacy is throw military prowess or regional influence.

wow all I have to say is that this tyrann77 is a total jerk! thick as fuck.


I feel sorry for american soldiers who have to fight/loose their lives for people like you...oh my god.



LOOOL @ cats :=p

WOW, I am amazed at the intelligence level of our OP or lack thereof.

Perhaps we should just bomb every country that the US admin dislikes.

The only argument that ignorant assholes use against Iran is - "..but they want to wipe Israel off the map." How stupid does one have to be to assume that such a thing could in fact take place? Iran is not some blind terrorist faction. I can assure that they realize that any act of aggression from them could mean suicide.

Lets just go bomb every country on this planet that doesn't abide by the rules and expectations set by the United States!!1!1one!

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Originally posted by Marc Summers lol i cant belive i read this whole thread! why cant he use the the qoute function it amazes me! I dunno

Because he's a prime example of what happens when a person mates with a vegetable. The other possibility is that he's a troll trying to stir things up.

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Originally posted by Andryuha The only argument that ignorant assholes use against Iran is - "..but they want to wipe Israel off the map." How stupid does one have to be to assume that such a thing could in fact take place? Iran is not some blind terrorist faction. I can assure that they realize that any act of aggression from them could mean suicide.

There are a number of major issues with Iran which may very well lead to the country being an enormous problem for the US and a number of other nations in the years to come. For one thing, they've continually refused to put any sort of stop to the development of a nuclear program for which they have no real need outside of the development of nuclear weapons--not the greatest thing for a country which has harbored terrorists for years and is making threats about wiping others off the face of the map to be having now or at any time. Whether you despise Israel, consider it an illegitimate state, or just hate Jewish people, the country is still one of our strongest allies, and when another country makes such a threat, it's more silly to ignore it than to be concerned. A lot of this is due to Ahmadinejad, but the guy is still the leader of the country, and it would neither be the first nor the last time that one lunatic could lead a nation into a state of uncalled-for aggression or worse. Within the next few years, there is far more reason to be concerned about Iran than there is for nearly any other nation from the US perspective.

That all being said, going in and bombing them or starting a military conflict right now would be moronic. That doesn't mean that we should wait 'til they nuke somebody before we do anything, but a military response right now is neither justifiable nor beneficial. Claiming that Iran's done nothing wrong or is just an innocent country that "ignorant assholes" want to pick on is completely absurd, but we can't just attack anyone at any time.


c0r version: You're all wrong.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous For one thing, they've continually refused to put any sort of stop to the development of a nuclear program for which they have no real need outside of the development of nuclear weapons

I seriously doubt that there is anybody in this world is insane enough to actually use a nuclear bomb (if anything, I would be worried about NK - they are delusional). I'm quite certain that the only reason for Iran to make nukes is to become a major player in the world community. Think about Cold War times - both sides had nukes, but both were afraid to use it because of the inevitable consequences (mutual destruction). Besides, it's not like the old times. They can't just discretely launch a nuclear warhead

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making threats about wiping others off the face of the map to be having now or at any time

How many countries hat the US? I bet that all of them made similar threats at some point in time. The fact of the matter is that none have the capability to do this. Besides, Israel could take care of itself. They have a superior military and receives more US aid then any other country. Ahmadinejad may be crazy, but not suicidal.

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Whether you despise Israel, consider it an illegitimate state, or just hate Jewish people

And why did you come to that assumption? I suppose the fact that I'm not blindly bashing Iran makes me an anti-semite too?

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the country is still one of our strongest allies, and when another country makes such a threat, it's more silly to ignore it than to be concerned. A lot of this is due to Ahmadinejad, but the guy is still the leader of the country, and it would neither be the first nor the last time that one lunatic could lead a nation into a state of uncalled-for aggression or worse

Not really. There are far more people then you may think that belive that Israel should not exist. I can assure that there are many other like Ahmadinejad.



The bottom line is that it's very unlikely for anybody to use nukes in the 21st century. Especially Iran. I'm 100% sure that Iran realizes that if they use a nuke - their country would get leveled. The way I see it is that they say a lot, but in the end, they still have a realistic outlook on things.

I wasn't specifically addressing my post to you, first of all. In any case...

I didn't say I thought they would use them, but giving them that bargaining chip is beyond dangerous. I also am not convinced that he's not suicidal, if that means taking Israel down with him.

I didn't accuse anyone in particular of being anti-semitic, but many of those people you mentioned, who do not think Israel should exist, are, in fact, extremely anti-semitic. Not all, perhaps, but an overwhelming majority. I'm not denying that that's a huge group of people. It is, indeed, a very large segment of the world population. Numbers have never made any case, and I can't even begin to describe how strongly I disagree with those people who have that stance.

Finally, you cannot be 100% sure of that fact, and that's a HUGE risk to take if you're wrong.

The bottom line is, though, that this is all fairly irrelevant to this specific discussion since everyone aside from the OP who, while he may be on the right track with some of his points, is just as emotionally unreasonable and fanatical as everybody else. We can't and shouldn't attack Iran right now--plain and simple. It's a non-issue.

7 pages and counting. Don't think we'll see him around for a while.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous I wasn't specifically addressing my post to you, first of all. In any case... I didn't say I thought they would use them, but giving them that bargaining chip is beyond dangerous. I also am not convinced that he's not suicidal, if that means taking Israel down with him. I didn't accuse anyone in particular of being anti-semitic, but many of those people you mentioned, who do not think Israel should exist, are, in fact, extremely anti-semitic. Not all, perhaps, but an overwhelming majority. I'm not denying that that's a huge group of people. It is, indeed, a very large segment of the world population. Numbers have never made any case, and I can't even begin to describe how strongly I disagree with those people who have that stance. Finally, you cannot be 100% sure of that fact, and that's a HUGE risk to take if you're wrong. The bottom line is, though, that this is all fairly irrelevant to this specific discussion since everyone aside from the OP who, while he may be on the right track with some of his points, is just as emotionally unreasonable and fanatical as everybody else. We can't and shouldn't attack Iran right now--plain and simple. It's a non-issue.

You've made some good points, but IMHO, nukes are an obsolete technology. Also, at this point, I really see no reason to be alarmed to the point where an invasion should even be considered.

As far as Israel is concerned - I totally support it's existence, but I don't agree with a number of their policies. IMO, Ariel Sharon was a much better PM then the current guy.

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Originally posted by Andryuha You've made some good points, but IMHO, nukes are an obsolete technology. Also, at this point, I really see no reason to be alarmed to the point where an invasion should even be considered. As far as Israel is concerned - I totally support it's existence, but I don't agree with a number of their policies. IMO, Ariel Sharon was a much better PM then the current guy.

I agree. We've got a whole lot of diplomatic pressure & talks to go before we get to that stage, but they're certainly doing their best to rush through that step. I hope it all gets sorted out in the next few years, 'cuz God knows we've got more than enough problems as is, and there are much bigger conflicts that may come up in 20 or 30 years. It'd be nice to have a break.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous It'd be nice to have some peace.

Fixed.

You raise some good points, and I appreciate the concern Iran raises, though I do think you overstate somewhat the intention of the nuclear program. 95% of the program's purpose is for domestic use. Yes, evidence suggests they are probably pursuing a bomb as well, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume it's meant for Israel. I think it's far more likely that it's meant as deterrance from precisely the kind of action the OP is suggesting we take.

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Originally posted by Googooly I feel sorry for american soldiers who have to fight/loose their lives for people like you...oh my god.

Wow. Googooly, that has to be the most on-point, intelligent thing you have ever posted. Kudos.

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Originally posted by idoru Wow. Googooly, that has to be the most on-point, intelligent thing you have ever posted. Kudos.

lol you think so??


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Originally posted by Googooly lol you think so?? thanks! I just love complements!

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Originally posted by Ripped Bag I like you I like sex

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Originally posted by Googooly Look mate, thanks for liking me and stuff, but im strait as a carret. ^_^ -_-

thread closed and tryan77 has been suspended for his remarks.

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