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Ulysses is readable. It's also enjoyable on the level of style, even if you don't understand a lot of the puns and references, unlike Finnegans Wake.

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Originally posted by R.j. Having more substance? Yeah. But as to that substance's significance, I have my doubts, since a lot of those references are jokes that, I'm imagining, hold no weight for today. *most of which, I admit, I've yet to grasp--another read sometime later when I'm willing to "REALLY, REALLY, REALLY" read it* So, actually, take my comment as lightly as possible.

I agree, a lot of it is just what critics would call "textual play", which is literature for the sheer joy of it. But at the same time, most novels focus on one of two issues or subtexts, where as Ulysses takes on just about everything, in radically new ways as well.

Put it this way: when I was studying it I had an annotated copy, and two bookmarks: one for the book, one for the notes.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Kundera's The Unbearable Lightness of Being.

Read the first part and I have loved it so far.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I agree, a lot of it is just what critics would call "textual play", which is literature for the sheer joy of it.

maybe others would call it 'masturbatory'


not passing judgment though, i think its important for any art field to have such masturbatory experiments, they help to push the boundaries of its internal language and mechanics, as well as creative possibility and collective consciousness

just finished it



what an amazing book
667 pages totally flew by
I am now fucking fascinated by Tudor/Elizabethan England

going to rent the movie tonight

Harry Crews - Body

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Female bodybuilding competition is the background for a tale of ambition, success, and failure. Shereel Dupont, a leading contender, has been trained to a fine-tuned perfection by Russell Morgan. At the Ms. Cosmos contest Shereel is confronted by her past as Dorothy Turnipseed--mother, father, sister, two brothers, and a former lover from the backwoods of Georgia. Bawdy humor is generated by the Turnipseed family, and conflict is supplied by Marvella, a big black woman who is Shereel's only real competition. The interplay among the leading characters is propelled with lean prose and dialog to an ending that is as shocking as it is inevitable.

grabbed this the other day. very easy to read and informative.


i've realized i'm a total self help book type. i keep trying to get into novels and i can't do it. all the "how to" stuff i blow right through though.

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Originally posted by nefardec maybe others would call it 'masturbatory'

Of course. It's going back to the debate of whether art is only worthwhile or meaningful if it relates to something external to itself, or if it can be an end unto itself. Like all the modernists, Joyce was all for destroying traditional prescriptions of how art and literature should operate.

You know where I stand on that debate.

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Originally posted by Slylee grabbed this the other day. very easy to read and informative. i've realized i'm a total self help book type. i keep trying to get into novels and i can't do it. all the "how to" stuff i blow right through though.

If you prefer reading about foreclosures than devouring a good novel I think you need to find better novels to try.

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Originally posted by Clovis If you prefer reading about foreclosures than devouring a good novel I think you need to find better novels to try.

no i've read a few good ones it's just not my thing. maybe it will be when i get older. my mom is a fanatic. she has to have another book lined up before she is even finished with her current.

to me it's a form of entertainment/escape from reality and i try to keep my vices to a minimum. i pretty much come on TA for my little mental "getaway" and that's about all i can allow myself aside from music and movies. if i'm gonna read, i want to learn from it, that's just how i am i guess.


i know you learn from novels too but you know what i mean.

This was recommended in an earlier book thread, and I've had it on my bookshelf for a few months now and am only just getting around to reading it. And it's absolutely fantastic - definitely met the high expectations set by whoever posted it before. The prose is fairly simple, but very rich.

Next on the list. Any thoughts?

Just finished this:



A good insight, and doesn't try to cover up the ugly sides of the business. Currently busy with this...



...which through pitch black humour and total grimness effectively eradicates all belief you previously might have had in humanity.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Currently busy with this... ...which through pitch black humour and total grimness effectively eradicates all belief you previously might have had in humanity.

I just finished The Marabou Stork Nightmares, actually. A pretty grim novel, although very interesting in narrative and graphological respects. It was quite disturbing because I read the whole thing in a couple of days, and by the end I'd spent so much time in the protagonist's head it became difficult to think in my own voice again, and Roy Strang isn't a pleasant guy to share a psyche with.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I just finished The Marabou Stork Nightmares, actually. A pretty grim novel, although very interesting in narrative and graphological respects. It was quite disturbing because I read the whole thing in a couple of days, and by the end I'd spent so much time in the protagonist's head it became difficult to think in my own voice again, and Roy Strang isn't a pleasant guy to share a psyche with.

Has Welsh ever written ANYTHING where England and Scotland do not emerge as spawning pools of everything that is ugly about humans? Don't get me wrong, he does it incredibly well, but his descriptions and scenarios still end up worrying me quite a bit.

trying to read a little book on the basics of architectural styles. the reading is moving along very slowly (like 3-5 pages per week) because I'm lazy and prefer to watch a movie or go out with a friend rather than read a book in the evening I'm doomed

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enthralling.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Has Welsh ever written ANYTHING where England and Scotland do not emerge as spawning pools of everything that is ugly about humans? Don't get me wrong, he does it incredibly well, but his descriptions and scenarios still end up worrying me quite a bit.

I've heard his recent work is concerned with the upper-middle class, in the same way bands sing about being famous when they've made it. I haven't read any of his newer books, though.

Just finished these:



Onto the rest tomorrow.

I still haven't finished 'A Man in Full', but I also started reading Wilkie Collins' 'The Woman in White'. I saw it at my work ages ago, but only decided to read it recently because a comic strip in the paper has one of the character's reading it. So I took it as a sign.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov This was recommended in an earlier book thread, and I've had it on my bookshelf for a few months now and am only just getting around to reading it. And it's absolutely fantastic - definitely met the high expectations set by whoever posted it before. The prose is fairly simple, but very rich.

Got through 400 pages yesterday... only 400 more to go...

God, I love having a deck. I have a feeling I'm going to be so much more productive now.

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