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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut


You don't know any of this for a fact, and the "what if" question is completely relevant here because this demonstration was conducted with complete disregard to that possibility.



well if there was let me know. As far as i know there wasn't.

Also they have helicopters as well, we don't live in the stone age.


Posted by MissK on May-12-2009 02:18:

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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
And that sums up your entire argument. You have no idea what you're talking about. Go read a little on these fucking terrorists and maybe you'll understand why they aren't getting support in parliament for their "cause". It's not because they aren't well-connected like the jooooos (honestly, talk about bigotry).



what do you mean bigotry? I just made a comparison between two types of people (although i don't beleive jews are a race genetically they should be considered simply a religion) The point is ignatieff is taking action due to this protest which sums up my argument that there was reasoning for the protest.

Im sorry if you took offense to me saying jews and I am not refering to tamils as camels


Posted by phlog on May-12-2009 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Sorry, I must have missed it when the blacks, Chinese, Portugese, Mexicans, Pakistanis, and Americans blocked major traffic routes, assaulted police officers, and used their children as human shields in order to drum up support for interference in a remote civil war. Tell me again when that happened?

And unrelated to this particular comment, honestly, I'm floored by the comments from self-hating liberal douchecanoes in here. You are the reason why terrorism works, the reason for its continued existence and escalation. You all should be ashamed, but I know you won't be, because the emotional lift you seem to get from pretending to be more sensitive and enlightened and cosmopolitan than everybody else is clearly more important to you than the safety, freedom, and personal well-being of your peers.

This was not a peaceful protest, this is not a peaceful group, and they had no business protesting this particular issue here. Not that people can't "protest" whatever they want - but the fact that they were ILLEGALLY rallying for THIS particular issue just adds insult to injury.

These people should have all been deported, but not before having the shit beaten out of them.

"Oh no, people were stuck in traffic!" What if some of those people were on their way to the hospital? What if emergency vehicles had been blocked FROM the hospital? What if parents needed to get home to their kids? What if visitors missed important flights and have now had their entire weeks screwed up? This wasn't a 20-minute delay, this was over 5 hours.

I'm pissed off for real this time. If any of you hypocritical nutsacks had actually been caught in the middle of this, you would have been flipping out and screaming your asses off. But as long as it's not happening to you you, you're a suave intellectual who's really interested in hearing both sides of the story before you judge - even though you don't actually know jack shit about who they are or what they're protesting and really just want to put other people down for being so hot-headed. Fuck you.



If you get this worked up over comments posted on tranceaddict forums, you might need to see a counselor.


You remind me of this guy:


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
well if there was let me know. As far as i know there wasn't.

Also they have helicopters as well, we don't live in the stone age.



thats like saying...why do i need insurance? i havent been in an accident in 10 years while driving and then all of a sudden something happens and then u pay a price....


Posted by DigiNut on May-12-2009 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Also they have helicopters as well, we don't live in the stone age.

I really hope you're just trying to stir up drama, because I know you're an intelligent person and cannot imagine you saying something this senseless and actually meaning it.

What, you think that the police and EMS keep a whole fleet of helicopters in stock so they can service the entire Toronto population just in case something exactly like this happened? And I suppose we're discounting the possibility that an emergency vehicle was already in the middle of the jam when it started?


Posted by urban_legend on May-12-2009 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Ignatiev


Who is this? Who let the Russian in Parliament?


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by urban_legend
Who is this? Who let the Russian in Parliament?


ukranian...not russian...


oh whatev...same difference right?lol


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
WHY DOES CANADA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? WHY DOES ANY OTHER NATION HAVE TO INTERFERE INDIVIDUALLY IN MATTERS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY UNLESS ITS RELIEF EFFORTS?

FFS


geez.. arent you a tamil? wtf Because thats what canada does it helps other countries, like israel, somalia, afganistan etc


Posted by DigiNut on May-12-2009 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
I just made a comparison between two types of people

You compared two "types of people" and implied very clearly that the reason for different results was due to prejudice and not due to the actual behaviour or the merits of their argument. And I never used the term "race".

quote:
The point is ignatieff is taking action due to this protest which sums up my argument that there was reasoning for the protest.

And once again, as long as people take this position, they actively encourage further acts of civil disobedience or outright terrorism.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:24:

quote:
Originally posted by urban_legend
Who is this? Who let the Russian in Parliament?


ignatieff. wow everyone is ganging up on me.. geez can someone else play devils advocate too? this is too one sided


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
geez.. arent you a tamil?


what kind of idiot are you? just because of the colour of my skin i'm tamil?


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
ignatieff. wow everyone is ganging up on me.. geez can someone else play devils advocate too? this is too one sided



you're not playing devil's advocate but just trying to stir up your own drama with your personal views but find that no one else feels the way you do hence call it playing the fence.


Posted by DigiNut on May-12-2009 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
geez.. arent you a tamil? wtf Because thats what canada does it helps other countries, like israel, somalia, afganistan etc

Un-fucking-believable.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
thats like saying...why do i need insurance? i havent been in an accident in 10 years while driving and then all of a sudden something happens and then u pay a price....


there is a reason why berkshire and hathaway shares are 90,100 dollars a piece

because insurance is a very very very profitable business, meaning you rarely claim for what you pay.

like i said before, nothing happend and if something did happen they would be able to get through as i explained before.


Posted by Brennen on May-12-2009 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
WHY DOES CANADA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? WHY DOES ANY OTHER NATION HAVE TO INTERFERE INDIVIDUALLY IN MATTERS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY UNLESS ITS RELIEF EFFORTS?

FFS


Because the Tamils are getting pwned for once, the Sri Lanka government finally had enough of the Tamil Tigers and is putting an end to them. Now all the families that were fine (or blind to the fact) with the tigers killing villagers and using children as soldiers are now pissed.


Posted by Abercrombie on May-12-2009 02:30:

Two thousand Tamil Tigers, with tots in tow, throw tantrum on Toronto thruway, totally thwarting traffic and teeing off travelers.

Say that 5x real fast.


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Brennen
Because the Tamils are getting pwned for once, the Sri Lanka government finally had enough of the Tamil Tigers and is putting an end to them. Now all the families that were fine (or blind to the fact) with the tigers killing villagers and using children as soldiers are now pissed.


duh...meanwhile all these protestors that are acting all empathic to
"their" people ran away from there cos they had no balls to stay and fight for whatever the fuck their cause was


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You compared two "types of people" and implied very clearly that the reason for different results was due to prejudice and not due to the actual behaviour or the merits of their argument. And I never used the term "race".



wrong, i implied that they have people on the inside which is definatley true, you cant argue about that. When have you seen a tamil in parliament? doesnt mean their rights should be voided.

quote:

And once again, as long as people take this position, they actively encourage further acts of civil disobedience or outright terrorism.


there have been many protests in the past which were regarded as civil disobedience back then but now looked on as revolutionary. (african american rights, protests against racist laws etc).
The point being is that Ignatieff is taking action now because of this protest shows some validity towards the cause.


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
wrong, i implied that they have people on the inside which is definatley true, you cant argue about that. When have you seen a tamil in parliament? doesnt mean their rights should be voided.


How many Tamils do you see actually aspiring for anything in office...or for that matter in anything?


Posted by MarkT on May-12-2009 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
there is a reason why berkshire and hathaway shares are 90,100 dollars a piece

because insurance is a very very very profitable business, meaning you rarely claim for what you pay.

like i said before, nothing happend and if something did happen they would be able to get through as i explained before.


yes, there is a reason...but it has nothing to do with profitability or value.

companies can easily manipulate relative share price. If a stock splits, is the company half as profitable? lol!

FAIL!


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on May-12-2009 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Un-fucking-believable.


guys.. i need some support here. Am i the only one that thinks theres another side to this argument? geez at least i am instigating some sort of debate

and i appologize if you hate tamils so much that you take offense to me calling you one el kaydee. you can give me a sucker punch the next time you see me on the street.


Posted by LKD on May-12-2009 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
there have been many protests in the past which were regarded as civil disobedience back then but now looked on as revolutionary. (african american rights, protests against racist laws etc).
The point being is that Ignatieff is taking action now because of this protest shows some validity towards the cause.



so african american rights in your opinion is something that wasn't an issue on their very turf that they were fighting for locally but rather the rights of africans abroad in africa?...im lost...what are you trying to compare here?

and you keep talking about Ignatieff....you really believe that hes doing something about it? IMO hes just trying to get these people to shutup by telling them what they want to hear.


Posted by evil_cookie on May-12-2009 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
woooooooooaaaaaaaaaaah
hold on a second there buddy. Weren't you one of those union workers that was defending the york university staff striking because they weren't getting paid as much as the professors due to the fact that they weren't as qualified. Thus witholding students academic careers because you couldn't simply apply for another job if you werent satisfied with the pay in the one you had?

I think you're being a bit hypocritical here. There are over 250,000 tamels in toronto and their families are acutally DYING in sri lanka. And your calling them fucking idiots for trying to save there lives. Why are you not a fucking idiot then for striking to receive the same benefits as a professor that has much higher tier education as you. I think you're being illogical. just like those GM workers who want 3 times as much money as the toyota workers.


Just so we're clear, I don't teach at York, nor have I been on strike--I was merely defending their right to strike. In any event, your analogy does not work and you are ill-informed about the issue, here is why:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
they don't need to because they have people in parliament. The tamils are protesting the genocide or persecution of their people (i am not 100 % sure about the reasoning) but apparently their families are dying there. The fact that after this protest ignatieff is now wiling to talk about it in parliament shows that there is an issue at hand and it needs to be discussed. Its just saddening that it had to come down to this.


First, as Yohan mentioned, for an event to be considered a genocide it has to meet specific conditions--not the rantings of a fucking mob--it's a UN binding term for a reason. Second, Ignatieff is simply willing to discuss the conflict in Sir Lanka; and by no means is he sympathetic to the LTTE, as he explicitly says himself:

quote:
The Liberal Party of Canada stands firmly against terrorism, and I restate our unequivocal condemnation of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam.


SO STOP saying Ignatieff every other post.

And finally, as Digi has shown, your comparisons between the different ethnic groups and the LTTE are just down-right moronic. I certainly understand the urge to play devils advocate, but you can't be expect to be taken seriously when you make such rash comparisons.


Posted by DigiNut on May-12-2009 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
When have you seen a tamil in parliament? doesnt mean their rights should be voided.

What rights!? Are you completely off your nut?

quote:
there have been many protests in the past which were regarded as civil disobedience back then but now looked on as revolutionary. (african american rights, protests against racist laws etc).

I see, and so you're comparing this? Tamil Tigers are protesting racist laws in Canada? Which ones?

quote:
The point being is that Ignatieff is taking action now because of this protest shows some validity towards the cause.

The point is that you already said this, that Ignatieff is a green opportunist with no actual authority, that impossibly na�ve attitudes such as this are the breeding grounds for terrorism and terrorist groups, and that you're a retard.


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