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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Call me heartless but diddling one kid negates everything else he ever did.

precisely. It doesn't matter who you are, what you've done, if you do something like that, you deserve nothing. If a random Joe down the street died and had diddled a kid, people would be saying good.

Now that he is dead are the police gonna finally release the pics they took of his winkie?

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Call me heartless but diddling one kid negates everything else he ever did.

I'm assuming you have evidence that he "diddle one kid"?

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Originally posted by woscar I'm assuming you have evidence that he "diddle one kid"?

I'm not a criminal court... I make my verdict based on the balance of probabilities.

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Originally posted by jupiterone question...weren't all the recent cases of michaels alleged 'child molestation' settled outside of court? it's funny that any parent would even allow their kid to spend time with michael after what happened to him in the 90's. any parent who actually gave a fuck about their kid would make sure the ****** gets thrown in jail for molesting their child. to me, this death brings out how sick a lot of people are, the guy didn't deserve to die. he wasn't convicted, and i highly doubt he ever did molest the people who accused him of it to start. it was always about cash, i'm not saying i know the truth, but neither do you morons who say he deserved to die for something that was never proved $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ let me say that again....$$$$$$$$

You would only settle out of court if you're guilty. Paying the money is better than doing the time. If he was innocent he would have went to court and won. Once you see the evidence, you say O SHIT! we need to settle this out of court so i dont go to jail.

When it comes to music, Michael Jackson was the greatest person to ever walk this earth. He brought an immense amount of joy to trillions of people throughout his short time here. He was never convicted of anything you fucking idiots. If I had a rubber hose I would beat you all to Beat It.

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Originally posted by jonSun He was never convicted of anything you fucking idiots.

Neither was OJ but consensus is he's a murderer.

apparently theres a rally for MJ in dc today make sure you guys attend.id go but i have to clip my toenails

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm not a criminal court... I make my verdict based on the balance of probabilities.

You make your verdict based on bullshit.

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Originally posted by GTS3gEclipse You would only settle out of court if you're guilty. Paying the money is better than doing the time. If he was innocent he would have went to court and won. Once you see the evidence, you say O SHIT! we need to settle this out of court so i dont go to jail.

If someone really raped/molested your kid...would you take his money so he can be free? Or would you tell him to fuck off and make sure he gets convicted?

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Originally posted by woscar You make your verdict based on bullshit.

I think you make yours on some personal attachment to a public image.

This song has always given me goosebumps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yei36GaQWoQ&feature=fvst


RIP

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm not a criminal court... I make my verdict based on the balance of probabilities.

That makes no sense. The jury in a court USES the balance of probabilities [burden of proof]. The one used here is the "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden of proof. And they found him not guilty of all charges.

So the very thing that you say you use, they used. And they are in a better position to find culpability than you are.

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Originally posted by GTS3gEclipse If he was innocent he would have went to court and won.

Which he did in May 2005.

I don't blame you for forgetting that trial, though. I remember it not being as "high-profile" as I thought it should have been.

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Originally posted by Renzo That makes no sense. The jury in a criminal court USES the balance of probabilities [burden of proof]. The one used here is the "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden of proof. And they found him not guilty of all charges. So the very thing that you say you use, they used. And they are in a better position to find culpability than you are.

There are two tests before the law... beyond a reasonable doubt (criminal) and balance of probabilities (civil)... Balance of Probabilities means that it is more likely then not (or vice versa).

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Originally posted by jonSun If I had a rubber hose I would beat you all to Beat It.

omfg!!!!!11

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard There are two tests before the law... beyond a reasonable doubt (criminal) and balance of probabilities (civil)... Balance of Probabilities means that it is more likely then not (or vice versa).

There's a reason why criminal courts use the highest level of burden of persuasion. A man's liberty is at stake. Preponderance of the evidence or clear and convincing evidence would never suffice.

where there's smoke, there's fire

I am sure MJ had inappropriate relations with children.

see apparently madame tussauds is getting rid of jacksons waxwork.... they are replacing it with him

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I think you make yours on some personal attachment to a public image.

Not at all, I'm just being objective. And you didn't answer my question.

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Originally posted by Renzo There's a reason why criminal courts use the highest level of burden of persuasion. A man's liberty is at stake. Preponderance of the evidence or clear and convincing evidence would never suffice.

I agree with you. All I was saying is that for me to be satisfied I only need a balance of probabilities... if I had the power to incarcerate then I'd demand a higher burden but I don't.

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Originally posted by woscar Not at all, I'm just being objective. And you didn't answer my question.

See the people's evidence in both cases against him... that was enough to satisfy me. So we weigh the evidence differently... I don't care what you think.

Question remains unanswered.

I dedicate this song in memory of those who have passed on:
Peter-Paul Pigmans (January 31, 1961�August 27, 2003)
Michael Joseph Jackson (August 29, 1958 � June 25, 2009)

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Originally posted by woscar Question remains unanswered.

You asked for my evidence... I referred you to the People's evidence in the People v. Jackson.... the transcript is way more comprehensive then I could be. Do some reading.

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