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Posted by DJ Simo on Nov-27-2009 18:34:

His radio set at the Raleigh Hotel WMC weekend was worse imo but I see where you're coming from.....

I'll give you guys my honest opinion on all of this. As a recent West Coast (Los Angeles) transplant, I can tell you that he NEVER plays like this in LA/SF, where I haven't missed any of his shows in the last 3 years. When he plays at 1015 is SF he ALWAYS plays HARD, ALWAYS. As far as SoCal/Norcal raves and festivals, the same applies, although he plays a little more fluff, but still bangs out good sets. LA clubs, well, he hasn't played in a "club" in LA for almost a year and a half now but the last few times he did he played very trancey and hard sets. The first time I heard him play a housey set was WMC 08, which I actually liked a lot. I don't mind his "hybrid sets" if they're done well (think Trance Energy 09 style, his Mayday sets, etc).

His DC set was pretty bad, but I also think it partly has to do with the crowd and venue. Actually, it probably has a lot to do with those 2 factors. Think about who goes to those these clubs and ask yourself if they want to hear a 144bpm Mekk track? It's to hardcore for certain crowds and venues. Think about who goes to those clubs? Douchebags who don't even know the difference between different edm styles and artists...... People who go just because they hear a familiar name. And that's the reason why you have these weird sets in certain cities....... It's him calibrating to the crowd (although he does it badly sometimes). Go see him at a rave or in a place where a larger percentage of the crowd is there for the music (like SF) or rolling balls and you will get your typical "PVD" set that I'm so used to hearing. I'll take your guys' word for it and expect him to play a house set on Saturday, I just hope he plays a little harder than the DC set.


In the end PVD is still my favorite. I even prefer his house sets over other trance dj's and their boring, predictable cdj sets, which I'm completely over btw..... It just sucks that he completely fucks up at some venues and then blows the doors off of other ones. I'm gonna see him for NYE this year @ Roseland Ballroom, I'm sure he won't dissappoint there. Catch him at the "appropriate venue" and he will bang it out accordingly. All hope is not lost. You guys just happen to be in one of those cities/venues that are "fucked." Anyways, I'm looking forward to Saturday. Keeping my finger crossed for a good set!


Posted by Coastie on Nov-27-2009 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by nfekted


any meet up before or whatttttt?


Im getting to space pretty early like at 10:45, PM me your # and let me know what time you plan on getting there! ONE MORE DAY!!!


Posted by snatonsb on Nov-27-2009 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Simo
His radio set at the Raleigh Hotel WMC weekend was worse imo but I see where you're coming from.....

I'll give you guys my honest opinion on all of this. As a recent West Coast (Los Angeles) transplant, I can tell you that he NEVER plays like this in LA/SF, where I haven't missed any of his shows in the last 3 years. When he plays at 1015 is SF he ALWAYS plays HARD, ALWAYS. As far as SoCal/Norcal raves and festivals, the same applies, although he plays a little more fluff, but still bangs out good sets. LA clubs, well, he hasn't played in a "club" in LA for almost a year and a half now but the last few times he did he played very trancey and hard sets. The first time I heard him play a housey set was WMC 08, which I actually liked a lot. I don't mind his "hybrid sets" if they're done well (think Trance Energy 09 style, his Mayday sets, etc).

His DC set was pretty bad, but I also think it partly has to do with the crowd and venue. Actually, it probably has a lot to do with those 2 factors. Think about who goes to those these clubs and ask yourself if they want to hear a 144bpm Mekk track? It's to hardcore for certain crowds and venues. Think about who goes to those clubs? Douchebags who don't even know the difference between different edm styles and artists...... People who go just because they hear a familiar name. And that's the reason why you have these weird sets in certain cities....... It's him calibrating to the crowd (although he does it badly sometimes). Go see him at a rave or in a place where a larger percentage of the crowd is there for the music (like SF) or rolling balls and you will get your typical "PVD" set that I'm so used to hearing. I'll take your guys' word for it and expect him to play a house set on Saturday, I just hope he plays a little harder than the DC set.


In the end PVD is still my favorite. I even prefer his house sets over other trance dj's and their boring, predictable cdj sets, which I'm completely over btw..... It just sucks that he completely fucks up at some venues and then blows the doors off of other ones. I'm gonna see him for NYE this year @ Roseland Ballroom, I'm sure he won't dissappoint there. Catch him at the "appropriate venue" and he will bang it out accordingly. All hope is not lost. You guys just happen to be in one of those cities/venues that are "fucked." Anyways, I'm looking forward to Saturday. Keeping my finger crossed for a good set!


Thank you for this post and I couldn't agree with you anymore! Funny thing is Miami Times just came out with an article a few days ago about PVD. One of his favorite places to spin is "Club Space" here in Miami. So I am hoping for a set to blow my socks off. I will get back to you and let you know how he does!


Posted by Rose on Nov-27-2009 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by nfekted


any meet up before or whatttttt?







Don't know but I better see your ass!!!! I was with you for the first time I saw PVD and the first time I was at Space. Plus I miss you bitch! So I'll text you while I'm on the way.








First time on the terrace for meeeeeee! I'm such a little git. Can't wait


Posted by iclone on Nov-27-2009 19:59:

rose: when are y'all going to SPACE?


Posted by Rose on Nov-27-2009 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by iclone
rose: when are y'all going to SPACE?




??? When I arrive with you?


Posted by av1 on Nov-27-2009 20:47:

I have not and will not be listening to his DC set, but find it funny how people pre-judge his Space set b4 it even happens. Everyone should know by now that PVD has been hit-or-miss for quite some time. He could suck on wednesday and be great on Saturday. So lets judge his set @ Space by how he plays @ Space this Saturday, not by how he played @ DC.


Posted by DJ Simo on Nov-27-2009 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by snatonsb
Thank you for this post and I couldn't agree with you anymore! Funny thing is Miami Times just came out with an article a few days ago about PVD. One of his favorite places to spin is "Club Space" here in Miami. So I am hoping for a set to blow my socks off. I will get back to you and let you know how he does!


Oops I should've been more clear, I'm here now, but from LA originally. I'll be @ Space to share in the joy or misery that awaits us all haha. I'll be the only asian dude, wearing my black Vandit shirt as custom requires. Can't wait!

I should probably ask this in the dj booth or production forum but since everyone here is an expert when it comes to pvd's house sets I'll give it a shot. Does anybody notice how the trance songs in his housey sets have a certain feel to them? Like they feel more like a house song. I've been tinkering with Ableton groove and swing settings and trying to figure this out for a while but can't seem to get it...... I guess the best example would be the song Remember in his WMC 08 set, it sounds totally different, but I think I prefer it that way. I'm wondering if it's a production level thing or a setting in Ableton?


Posted by iclone on Nov-27-2009 20:59:

i doubt he'll play house. this is terrace night, not morning


Posted by av1 on Nov-27-2009 21:08:

If we are lucky he'll stick to trance and tech-trance. Miami has waaaay too much house already


Posted by arturob on Nov-27-2009 22:38:

i be there!


Posted by koky69 on Nov-27-2009 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by av1
If we are lucky he'll stick to trance and tech-trance. Miami has waaaay too much house already
agreed !!


Posted by nfekted on Nov-27-2009 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by arturob
i be there!





flo i think we might have a sardine can tommorrow


Posted by Rose on Nov-27-2009 23:09:

Gonna be a wonderful 60 degrees at night


Posted by SPACEMASTERS on Nov-28-2009 00:46:

I heard the set.
To me it lacks energy!


Posted by dj douglas on Nov-28-2009 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by arturob
i be there!



awwwwwwwwwwww shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!! hrhrhrhrhrhrh



btw just listen to the set pat posted. i liked it. good track selection. a bit on the commercial side, at least for TA peoples taste. but nice flow. wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than those house infused sets he pulls on us some times. PLEASE PAUL NO HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!


btw























box crew where u at?????????


Posted by bdr222 on Nov-28-2009 01:20:

Worm Popper

quote:
Originally posted by dj douglas
box crew where u at?????????



Posted by FallingMoon on Nov-28-2009 01:42:

quote:
Originally posted by arturob
i be there!


yay!! we get to see arty farty after foreverrrrrr!!!!


Posted by Dream Beamz on Nov-28-2009 01:51:

ok, i just booked my flights (on thanksgiving travel weekend like an idiot).

See you there


Whats the cheapest way to get from the airport to space. Every time I take a taxi it runs me just short of $30, after what I just spent on flights I would prefer to save money.


Posted by Rose on Nov-28-2009 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Dream Beamz
ok, i just booked my flights (on thanksgiving travel weekend like an idiot).

See you there


Whats the cheapest way to get from the airport to space. Every time I take a taxi it runs me just short of $30, after what I just spent on flights I would prefer to save money.





Car pooling lol.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Nov-28-2009 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Dream Beamz
ok, i just booked my flights (on thanksgiving travel weekend like an idiot).

See you there


Whats the cheapest way to get from the airport to space. Every time I take a taxi it runs me just short of $30, after what I just spent on flights I would prefer to save money.


Supershuttle... Big blue van type buses. Should cost you around $10. I'm on my phone now but either google em or I'll send ya a link later.


Posted by Dream Beamz on Nov-28-2009 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
Supershuttle... Big blue van type buses. Should cost you around $10. I'm on my phone now but either google em or I'll send ya a link later.


Does that thing still run at 10pm (when my flight lands)


Posted by PatMcGroin on Nov-28-2009 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Dream Beamz
Does that thing still run at 10pm (when my flight lands)


it should. maybe not so frequently but you can make a reservation.

http://www.supershuttle.com/


Posted by PatMcGroin on Nov-28-2009 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by arturob
i be there!


arty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by DJReLiK2424 on Nov-28-2009 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Dream Beamz
ok, i just booked my flights (on thanksgiving travel weekend like an idiot).

See you there



Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! you couldn't resist huh? LOL see you tomorrow bro!


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