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I'm not wrong about shit, lol. I did very well in my mental health placement.

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Originally posted by Lews People who just attempt should try harder or stop crying.

I was going to post something very mean but Mel and everyone else would get but hurt and I'd get banned again by some no name regional mod.

So I'll just say this:


LOL

let me use raul as an example melly.

the guy was in A LOT of pain for a long time right? He ended his life because he could not deal with it anymore, not because he wanted to hurt your feelings, or his friends feelings. Did it hurt people? Yes...but it was his conscious decision to end his life because of HIS suffering. We all owe a death, doesn't matter who you are it is etched in stone.

It hurts so much that you want it to end. You don't think of friends, of family, or anything other than just not having to live with the shit one more day.

If your grandma is on life support and in tremendous amounts of pain would you pull the plug? Her death would hurt you too.

I understand you are upset and all, but no offense...you make more of a deal about how much it hurt you, but what about the hurt Raul was living.

The right to die is a choice i believe in. If someone truly does not want to be around anymore and is THAT miserable, is it better that they live their whole lives like that to make a few people happy?

It is a personal choice.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy I understand you are upset and all, but no offense...you make more of a deal about how much it hurt you, but what about the hurt Raul was living. The right to die is a choice i believe in. If someone truly does not want to be around anymore and is THAT miserable, is it better that they live their whole lives like that to make a few people happy? It is a personal choice.

I kind of have to agree with this one.

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not wrong about shit, lol. I did very well in my mental health placement.

yeah, did you get your fisher price badge?


its obvious you're trolling. If you're actualy serious then you need a mental health assessment.

I'm not trolling at all. Fuck off Karim.

Its still a wrong choice when its just being an emo fag.

DA had issues he obviously never took care of in any constructive way. He was very destructive it seemed, at least thats how he portrayed himself here and other forums.

He was one of those types, at least for me, where it wasnt a question of if, but when. There just wasn't any helping it because he had no self will to help himself. He should have been placed in external care a long time ago.

People killing themselves over BS pussy shit like "ohh my GF broke up with me" is about as fucking sad and pathetic as you can get. My uncle did that. He was incredibly intelligent but killed himself during college over a girl. Fucking stupid. It fucked my moms family up so fucking bad. Yes there is a history of depression in her family (they are through and through Scandinavians after all), but still.

DA killing himself, actually his whole last few years to me seems like a big FUCK YOU to those who cared about him, and Jay trying to off himself over a girl is just as bad.

Suicide is a choice, a choice to fuck over those that do love you. Its never an option unless you are terminally ill, and if you choose to do it otherwise then you are making the most selfish and foolish decision you will ever make.

you guys still going at this?

I originally was going to say something to the effect of what Jenny said when it first happened but thought I let it slide, in respect for Raul and Melly. My take on the current topic is:

1. People who really commit suicide just do it, they don't write a note like Jay did. Those type of people are looking for pity/sympathy. Why else would they let everyone know?

2. Knowing that and knowing how recently an actual suicide did happen, confirmed #1. Because the natural reaction would be for members on this board to jump into action so it didn't happen again. Which they did, and in the end that's what Jay wanted.

Maybe I'm cynical, but knowing the history of the two individual and the outcome of each again it confirms my opinion. Was Jay in a bad way sure but how close he was to actually killing himself we'll never know but I have my suspicions.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy This is my last and only post I will make on this subject. Firstly, I would like to apologize for my actions in regards to that post that started this all. My state of mind at that moment had nothing to do with tranceaddict, nor with anything posted on it...including the jennypie thread. Did it bother me yes, but even at my weakest I am not or never was that weak to let something like that truly affect me. My condition is of my own doing... I do not feel the need to break down my life for all of you, but I will try and justify the note to hopefully put all of this to rest. I was in a bad place, and yes i did certain things to myself that made those actions (posting) seem rational at the time. I am not my online persona...i never was. I was at the end of my rope and i made a mistake. I did not want to send that to my ex, but i felt like i needed to get it out. I didn't speak to friends for fear that they might talk me out of it...once again my mistake. I never realized that TA would be able to intervene, so i dumped it here. To those that intervened , thank you. My head was not in the right place, and your actions helped me prevent any further damage to myself. I never intended it to be a cry for help, but it has become one, and hopefully one that will help me get over this hump. As embarrassing as admitting all of this is, having the cops and ambulance show up at my door prevented things from escalating and saved my life. Realize that no matter who we are, how well we live, we all have moments of weakness. There are no justifications for my actions, it all lies on my shoulders, and i know have to live with the ramifications of what i did to my body that night. To all of those i pissed off in my time here, i will not apologize. Throwing stones in glass houses or something like that right? I never thought my actions under any of the names i have had on this board would upset some of you as much as they seem to have...i suppose before judging my self admitted weakness, i suggest some of you look deep inside at the weaknesses in yourselves. I'm sorry if i made anyone worry, and I honestly never thought it would get around so much, way out of the spectrum of this site. I didn't care that night, and wasn't planning on sticking around to see what came after. A dick move for sure. I don't want any pity, i do not want anymore attention due to this, and I seriously do not care at any judgement of the post I am now writing and will not respond. None of that means anything, my problems are mine and mine alone. I probably should not have even bothered to post this. My only reasoning to this is I feel I owe it to those who took steps and gave a shit, when i was not even able or willing to give a shit about myself. I thank you, I am sure my family thanks you, for somehow managing to make a bad situation into a positive. As to the rest I don't really care. My being a cock on here was somewhat of a reflection towards the way i really felt about myself. Without naming any names, a few of you that act in similar ways to the way i did.... Sorry for the slylee post, but i feel like i needed it to be done. Once again i apologize, and thank you, you guys know who you are even if don't.

*grabs coat and walks out of thread*

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Suicide is a choice, a choice to fuck over those that do love you. Its never an option unless you are terminally ill, and if you choose to do it otherwise then you are making the most selfish and foolish decision you will ever make.

Dude, that is such fucking ignorant bullshit.

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Originally posted by jennypie Dude, that is such fucking ignorant bullshit.

How?

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Originally posted by epicaricacy until any of you are in that state of mind, you really don't know shit tbh.

Not true. My virtualization subroutines can fully emulate and analyze over 10,000 mental states per second.

This thread is going places.

I'm out.

Unless you have tried to kill yourself, you're not going to understand what someone who has tried feels like.

Feel lucky.

Cya in another thread.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby How?

Because it's not YOUR choice. You don't think someone who kills themselves didn't toss and turn thinking about how it would affect their loved ones?? I don't think it's exactly easy for someone to decide they're going to end it. And what about your selfishness in not being able to understand why someone would feel that was their only option? For some people - depression (or in my buddy's case - schizophrenia) IS a death sentence.


I actually do have to laugh when people get all pissed off/hurt when a loved one kills themselves and calls it selfish. Just shows how far behind so many people are, and why there's still so much stigma around mental illness, suicide, etc.

*grabs popcorn*

Lews, would you like some?

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Originally posted by jennypie Because it's not YOUR choice. You don't think someone who kills themselves didn't toss and turn thinking about how it would affect their loved ones?? I don't think it's exactly easy for someone to decide they're going to end it. And what about your selfishness in not being able to understand why someone would feel that was their only option? For some people - depression (or in my buddy's case - schizophrenia) IS a death sentence.

Just randomly offing themselves is not the way to handle it though.

Maybe there needs to be a death with dignity law for people who have serious mental issues?

So many suicides though are spur of the moment BS though. Even if they really didn't mean it like Jay, they often end up "accidentally" killing themselves anyways.

I mean, whats your opinion on suicide bombers, if you think suicide is a deeply personal decision? Or the mothers or fathers who kill their children or spouses and themselves. The whole behavior and anything related to it is meant to cause harm and destruction to those that loved that person.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Maybe there needs to be a death with dignity law for people who have serious mental issues?

I actually agree with this, and wouldn't be surprised to see it realized in our lifetime. In fact, I think they do have such laws in the Netherlands or some shit.

edit: I know there are several US states that have euthanasia laws...but as far as I know they don't apply to suicide or mental health issues, etc. The criteria are very narrow. Up here it's called "advanced directives"...but that really only applies to palliative/terminal people, so it's not really a right to die kinda thing.


I'm not going to engage your other questions, because I simply don't agree with you. I've voiced how I feel about suicide in the other thread. No sense arguing about it. But I think you're dumb.

Nou you don't know what you're talking about. Plz just stop.

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Originally posted by idoru *grabs popcorn* Lews, would you like some?

Don't mind if I do

nou you are even dumber than you can imagine.

you have no clue.

go design a virtual vietnamese girl that can say sucky sucky 5 dollar for your virtual army friends.

i'm glad you know where my head was at that night, what number am i thinking of right now?

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I mean, whats your opinion on suicide bombers, if you think suicide is a deeply personal decision?

Personally I think they're just plain dumb. They could have just bombed sans suicide and lived to bomb another day. That would make for a much more efficient Jihad.

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Originally posted by jennypie I actually do have to laugh when people get all pissed off/hurt when a loved one kills themselves and calls it selfish. Just shows how far behind so many people are, and why there's still so much stigma around mental illness, suicide, etc.

Thats the thing though, suicide is not something that is unstoppable. There is never a reason for it to occur with out some forethought or planning, even in the slightest.

Its not like "oh he had the suicide disease, you know one day he was just destined to pick up a handgun and blow his head off, sucks, what a terrible disease for him to have!"

No they have some other condition, thats treatable, or at least can be controlled to some degree. That or they are mentally weak.

Im not dis-advocating suicide btw. There are plenty of people that I think should do it. I mean as far as DA goes I really am apathetic to it. He tended to creep me out, his actions towards a number of people were very unsavory and I never liked his attitude. But look, Mels hurt, his family is probably hurt, so while I didn't care, he did fuck them.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Personally I think they're just plain dumb. They could have just bombed sans suicide and lived to bomb another day. That would make for a much more efficient Jihad.

Thats not the point though. Its the psychological aspect of a suicide bomber that makes people really scared. These people are willing to kill themselves, straight up with out a doubt die, for their cause.

Also they are not the ones planning the attack... They are just told "go here and press button and you get to paradise."

For real Nou, you don't get it. Stfu.

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