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The conservatives are so incredibly blessed that the NDP and Liberal parties havent yet combined.

This is a reality that gives conservative minded inbreds just enough time to move to texas.

Politicians talk about 'subsidies' to oil companies. The 'subsidies' are not subsidies at all, but common tax deductions exploration and production companies are allowed to expense to encourage natural resource exploration.

Every business is allowed to deduct the cost of doing business against the sales. Employee wages, office rent, research, interest expense, and capital expenditures that are depreciated over the life of the asset. These are not subsidies, but recognition of the costs to produce the gross profits of the company. Oil companies should not be treated any differently than any other company or individual.

- Source: John Dalt, April 28 2011 Email [talking about US Oil companies, but the same can be said for Canada]

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Originally posted by nacarter It's hard to describe the US as an uncompetitive global player. Tax rates aren't anything, but a convenient excuse.

Are you kidding me? Large businesses (who employ large amounts of people) are fleeing the US to other markets, or (considering your understanding of the issue, you probably don't know this) are recording profits outside the US and never repatriating them (to avoid taxes) - thus never re-investing them in the US economy.

The US is significantly hurt by their corporate tax policies and the stagnant growth (1.8%!!!) is precisely due to this.

I sometimes wish liberal arts studies would reserve their commentary on economic and fiscal issues until they actually understood more than newspaper-economics.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 The conservatives are so incredibly blessed that the NDP and Liberal parties havent yet combined.

Would rather not see that - we'd be headed down the path to a two-party system, and we all know how well that works in the grand scheme of things.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Are you kidding me? Large businesses (who employ large amounts of people) are fleeing the US to other markets, or (considering your understanding of the issue, you probably don't know this) are recording profits outside the US and never repatriating them (to avoid taxes) - thus never re-investing them in the US economy. The US is significantly hurt by their corporate tax policies and the stagnant growth (1.8%!!!) is precisely due to this. I sometimes wish liberal arts studies would reserve their commentary on economic and fiscal issues until they actually understood more than newspaper-economics.

Can you show some examples of how companies who are given significant tax breaks actually invest it back into the local economy? By say... hiring more people, not actually pocketing it and continuing to outsource into oblivion?

Thanks Dave, I was about to basically post the same thing. I figure RabbitJoker is one of these people that actually believes that corporations are the engines of the economy. NeoCons treat economics as a religion and any economic discussion that doesn't coincide with their particular ideology is nothing short of heresy. It's this particular attitude that has caused companies to stop taking innovation seriously. 40 years ago, R&D was most large companies biggest expense. Nowadays, if said company even has an R&D division, it's an afterthought. The biggest expense now is marketing, or as I like to refer to it, "How do we repackage our old crappy product and con consumers to throw away good money after bad, rather than develop something new that's actually more efficient, more durable, and more useful".

That said, I will give props to companies who do still push the envelope. If it wasn't for RIM, you wouldn't have the newest generation of SmartPhones. If it wasn't for the porn industry, you wouldn't have most e-commerce, security, and interactive web technologies. Good on them; everybody else - get off the golf course and get to work!

http://openmedia.ca/survey

Really annoyed that the conservatives decided to not answer questions related to internet neutrality and UBB practices

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Originally posted by daves Can you show some examples of how companies who are given significant tax breaks actually invest it back into the local economy? By say... hiring more people, not actually pocketing it and continuing to outsource into oblivion?

The resource sector is a great example of this.

The NDP gained another like 6% in Quebec

I can't wait to see the election results tomorrow night.

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Originally posted by jester The NDP gained another like 6% in Quebec I can't wait to see the election results tomorrow night.

I guess they like e-jack-u-layton!


LOL! not surprised. The french have always been socialists. Thats why they are broke. And Ontario is right behind them.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The resource sector is a great example of this.

Resources are also finite though so it's a whole different can of worms than other organisations that can operate indefinitely.

If you look at the oil sands we're subsidizing American companies so that they can turn a profit out of something which is not naturally profitable. Sure it creates jobs but so would spending that money on other investments as well.

Power to the NDP for convincing increasing amounts of people that we do not want a conservative government in general, nevermind a majority.

Hopefully the Liberals replace Ignatieff soon after this.

I wonder how Canadians will survive without the magical Harper majority though? By all accounts, our economy is going to crash, crime is going to run out of control... destruction, chaos, fire and brimstone! Anybody else stocking up on supplies to survive the apocalypse?

http://m.torontosun.com/Money/1303430271901

Soooo much conservative generated fear mongering going on. They truly do employ the lowest form of campaigning...

This election may have started off as another election that people did not want but it could have a huge impact on the future of canadian politics. If things turn out as expected we will have another Conservative Government (most likely a minority) with the NDP as the official opposition. This will most likely lead to Ducceppe and Iggy being booted along with Harper. The only one left standing will be Layton and with the money he gets from each vote he is just counting the dollars. This election could also lead to the merger of the liberals and NDP....with Layton as the possible leader .

This is going to be a historical election in Canadian Politics and I urge everyone to get out and vote today.

I heard Election Canada put a media blackout on the results?!

If you post anything online, you can get hit with a $25000 fine!

Polls are closing or already closed for the Atlantic provinces I can't wait to see the results!!!

CBC results
CTV results
The Globe and Mail results
Sun News live coverage

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Stephen Harper breaks election rules, campaigns on radio on election day Continue reading on Examiner.com: Stephen Harper breaks election rules, campaigns on radio on election day - Canada Canada Headlines | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/canada-head...6#ixzz1LFMMfSlQ In an interview this morning with Bill Good on CKNW in Vancouver, Stephen Harper openly campaigned for the Conservative Party of Canada, asking listeners to "vote Conservative" in defiance of Elections Canada rules and regulations that state no campaigning may be done during the media blackout on election day. During the interview Stephen Harper contravined the Elections Canada Act by stating that "It is certain that I will vote, and I encourage all other people to vote, and I encourage people to do the same as me and vote Conservative." The host of the CKNW call in radio show, Bill Good, was quick to reply to listeners that "We encourage you to vote too, but we encourage you to vote whichever way you feel is appropriate." Sections 480 to 499 of the Elections Canada Act detail prohibited activites by candidates during the imposed media blackout on election day in Canada. Sections 480 to 499 of the Canada Elections Act list the offence provisions, categorized according to whether intent is required, and the burden of proof required to prosecute them. Offences include: * illegally attempting to influence the vote of an elector or the results of an election * illegally hampering or delaying the electoral process * contravening the limits and obligations set out for contributions and expenses, including circumventing, attempting to circumvent or colluding in circumventing the rules for ineligible contributors, for concealing a contributor's identity and for exceeding contribution limits * contravening the limits and obligations set out for third party election advertising * publishing the results of an election opinion poll during the blackout period or without the accompanying information required by the Act * election advertising during the blackout period * prematurely publishing election results * partisan action by an election officer * using personal information from a voters list or from the National Register of Electors for unauthorized purposes * acting as an officer of a registered political party while knowing that the party does not include participating in public affairs among its essential objectives * as a party leader, certifying a declaration or report while knowing that the document contains false or misleading information * accepting or soliciting contributions for a political entity while representing to the contributor that part or all of the contribution could be transferred to some person or entity other than the registered party, candidate, leadership contestant or electoral district association * failure to register (referendum committee) Advertisement This breach of the Elections Canada Act also comes on the heels of alleged voter fraud in swing ridings at risk of losing Conservative control, as voters are being telephoned in these sensitive ridings and falsely being informed that their polling stations have been changed. In some cases voters have been sent as far as one hour away from where they are supposed to be voting by these fraudulant calls. The Canadian Headlines Examiner on Examiner.com said that "Reports are coming in from key swing ridings in Ontario and other other provinces that voters are being called at home with false information that their voting locations have changed, and in some instances sending voters an hour in the wrong direction" in regards to the voter tampering reports. If found guilty of breaching the Elections Canada Act, Stephen Harper could face one or all of the following penalties as stipulated by Elections Canada. If a judge finds a person guilty of an offence, the person may receive a fine or a period of imprisonment, or both. Under section 501 of the Act, the Court may also impose additional penalties, such as: * performing community service * performing the obligation that gave rise to the offence * compensating for damages, or any other reasonable measure the Court considers appropriate * a fine of up to five times the election advertising expenses limit exceeded by a third party * with respect to certain offences, the deregistration of a party and liquidation of its assets, and the liquidation of the assets of the party's registered associations Complaints and reports regarding this breach of the Elections Canada Act may be reported to the Commissioner of Canada Elections by email at [email protected]. Continue reading on Examiner.com: Stephen Harper breaks election rules, campaigns on radio on election day - Canada Canada Headlines | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/canada-head...6#ixzz1LFM89BaS

go f'n figure

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Originally posted by jester I heard Election Canada put a media blackout on the results?! If you post anything online, you can get hit with a $25000 fine!

Actually Lloyd Robertson just made a comment om CTV about others on the panel may look good in cuffs, but not him. They will not being able to report any votes in the remaining 25 min before the polls close.

Bloc is getting slaughtered.

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Originally posted by jester Bloc is getting slaughtered.

it is a beautiful thing. wow. who would have predicted this at the beginning of elections?

bye bye Iggy, bye bye Duceppe!

conservative majority?
ugh we are screwed.

well ...actually we were screwed regardless.

ndp has made huge leaps


lol

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110502/social-media-election-twitter-tweettheresults-110502/
dont tweet or facebook results

My riding was called Conservative and after Liberal. Now its NDP

Guess we have a few more hours until we know the real results. Now Quebec going to have to deal with a provincial election sometime this year

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Originally posted by jester My riding was called Conservative and after Liberal. Now its NDP Guess we have a few more hours until we know the real results. Now Quebec going to have to deal with a provincial election sometime this year

Our provincial election to me is much more exciting...

I'll actually go out and celebrate when that douchebag Dalton gets booted...

The Liberals are getting slaughtered, Iggy you should have never called an election, your so called followers are ripping the party apart.

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