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Originally posted by get nyce broke out 4miler last night in 45mins lol, guess that should suffice since I ran the biathlon leg twice, the first part is uphill but coming back in return is downhill which will be heaven come the 4th leg of the last mile. broke out another 3.5 this morning before work and I'm starting to feel my groove. Knocked out the 5k in 32mins but i was running a medium pace since I was pretty tired from the night before...worked up a great sweat for the morning which I haven't done in a while. Anyways, softball tonight, then gym to hit up chest. Managed to work in some bar work outside of my apartment on a scaffolding before last nights run, i love having that bar out there but also HATE having the scaffolding blocking my balcony. RUN.NYC

come on, push!!

yesterday i ended up running about 4.5 miles in 36:27. it SUCKED. the heat was getting to me, and i was feeling more sluggish than a buddy who ran the half marathon the day before. i think part of it is running on the bridle path - the dirt makes you work harder compared to pavement. will be running with the nike runnyc group again later today.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 come on, push!! yesterday i ended up running about 4.5 miles in 36:27. it SUCKED. the heat was getting to me, and i was feeling more sluggish than a buddy who ran the half marathon the day before. i think part of it is running on the bridle path - the dirt makes you work harder compared to pavement. will be running with the nike runnyc group again later today.

eeeeeww running =p

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY eeeeeww running =p

i enjoy

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY eeeeeww running =p

+1...bike ftw

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Originally posted by Capitalizt just stopped in to recommend the atkins diet, or any low carb diet for that matter. It works like crazy for me..and I do very little exercise. Down from 260 to 240 in a month..eating virtually anything I want, whenever I want.. Unlimited eggs, full-fat cheese, burgers, bacon, fresh salads with olive oil & vinegar..fresh green veggies...almonds, macadamia nuts.. That's about it. I eat tons of fatty (and delicious) stuff, and as long as I don't go over 20 carbs in a day the weight keeps shedding. Pwnage.

The problem I have with the atkins diet is that you need complex carbs to help transfer proteins to the muscle - amino acids. Also, unused protein also stores as fat when it's not burned as energy. What the atkins is doing is making you burn protein as a source of energy versus the normal carbs.

A better "dieting" plan is the Zone Diet. It incorporates the food groups and allows you to eat within those groups just by portion control. Also encourages you to eat upwards to 5-6 per day, just the discretion focuses on portion control. Size of your fist is a good measure for this.

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Originally posted by DJ_Eternal Nice going, 5k in 32 is a reasonable time especially if you've been running only 12 hours earlier. Do you prefer running more scenic ie. through parks etc or through city streets?

The parks here are paved roads, I don't like trail running as much for endurance purposes since I'm more prone to turning an ankle. I do trail run riverside park (hudson park) in manhattan but to focus on strength gains like sprints and uphill runs. I don't mind running city streets but if I were to navigate city streets it would be on my bike I like the parks more, it's nice run next to a group of girls adorned in lululemon or nike fit ;p

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Originally posted by trunks1022 come on, push!! yesterday i ended up running about 4.5 miles in 36:27. it SUCKED. the heat was getting to me, and i was feeling more sluggish than a buddy who ran the half marathon the day before. i think part of it is running on the bridle path - the dirt makes you work harder compared to pavement. will be running with the nike runnyc group again later today.

lol push? i was dying yesterday! this morning was a bit better, i did notice though after a 2 day break, the first day back is always ROUGH. This morning I was fine, I nailed 2m in 17.45 which was pretty good, the last 1.5 I just cruised it as I navigated some of the hills along riverside drive.

I have to say this, I LOVE CENTRAL PARK AND RIVERSIDE PARK!
Run The Park Bitches!!!!

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Originally posted by get nyce The problem I have with the atkins diet is that you need complex carbs to help transfer proteins to the muscle - amino acids. Also, unused protein also stores as fat when it's not burned as energy. What the atkins is doing is making you burn protein as a source of energy versus the normal carbs.

Atkins relies on the body entering a state of ketosis in order to burn fat. When your body enters that state, it's primary source of energy is fat. That's one reason why carbs are so limited on that diet. Your body always wants to use carbs as energy and the introduction of too many carbs while your body is in ketosis will cause it to revert to a normal state.

Burning protein as energy typically depends on your o2/co2 ratio, which is why cardio is typically centered around a target heart rate, to control that ratio and assure that your body is burning fat. You really have to be either a) taxing your body extremely hard in order to burn protein or b) limiting your calories to such an extent that your body will start to eat itself for energy.

Having said all that, I still maintain that no one should ever 'diet'. Your diet should be consistent for the rest of your life and it's about maintaining a proper balance. The Zone Diet sounds like it's along those lines and that's a good thing. The bad thing is when people say "I'm going to do the Zone Diet for a month and lost 10 pounds and then go back to my evil ways." lol

Ok, end rant.

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Originally posted by get nyce lol push? i was dying yesterday! this morning was a bit better, i did notice though after a 2 day break, the first day back is always ROUGH. This morning I was fine, I nailed 2m in 17.45 which was pretty good, the last 1.5 I just cruised it as I navigated some of the hills along riverside drive. I have to say this, I LOVE CENTRAL PARK AND RIVERSIDE PARK! Run The Park Bitches!!!!

usually i feel the reverse and i feel fresher after a day or two off. and agreed on central park. however, i've avoided the upper loops for years. i hate the hills on the road up there.

i'm almost tempted to run in van cortlandt park some time soon - i feel like going back to the old cross country course and getting my ass kicked by the back hills. and maybe cemetery hill if i feel suicidal.

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Originally posted by Ygrene Having said all that, I still maintain that no one should ever 'diet'. Your diet should be consistent for the rest of your life and it's about maintaining a proper balance.

+1 i hate diets

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Originally posted by get nyce The problem I have with the atkins diet is that you need complex carbs to help transfer proteins to the muscle - amino acids. Also, unused protein also stores as fat when it's not burned as energy. What the atkins is doing is making you burn protein as a source of energy versus the normal carbs. A better "dieting" plan is the Zone Diet. It incorporates the food groups and allows you to eat within those groups just by portion control. Also encourages you to eat upwards to 5-6 per day, just the discretion focuses on portion control. Size of your fist is a good measure for this. The parks here are paved roads, I don't like trail running as much for endurance purposes since I'm more prone to turning an ankle. I do trail run riverside park (hudson park) in manhattan but to focus on strength gains like sprints and uphill runs. I don't mind running city streets but if I were to navigate city streets it would be on my bike I like the parks more, it's nice run next to a group of girls adorned in lululemon or nike fit ;p lol push? i was dying yesterday! this morning was a bit better, i did notice though after a 2 day break, the first day back is always ROUGH. This morning I was fine, I nailed 2m in 17.45 which was pretty good, the last 1.5 I just cruised it as I navigated some of the hills along riverside drive. I have to say this, I LOVE CENTRAL PARK AND RIVERSIDE PARK! Run The Park Bitches!!!!

u have some reading to do, as you have no idea whats going on while on it. Its all about glucagon and ketones mate. Also the word "diet" is used, however, its not necessarily a diet. Atkins/Keto is not based on burning protein, its based on fat! 75% fat, 25% protein is your macro intake so there's no need to worry about protein turning to fat! As far as meal frequency, u are supposed to eat 4-6 meals a day just like any other so called "diet" or program.

Whatever the case is I still don't support the atkins diet at all. Maybe it's the side of me that requires balance (in all aspects of life and at any extremes) but to me, maintaining a high protein high fatty diet just doesn't do it for me. I enjoy my brown rice, my beans, my multigrain toast. I don't necessarily enjoy "fatty foods" all the time, it's not delicious to me if you eat it constantly. I just need that balance, sweet and sour, salty and bland, its all about balance man.

I think I've done sufficient reading, enough for me to know that I don't participate in said diet (even if I'm conceptually wrong about it) because of the balance requirement in my life. I just can't see myself living such a lifestyle according the atkins regiment.

It may work for some, maybe it's a short term thing, I really don't know. I just feel that in a lot of ways, it's unhealthy for you. It's like those people who skip meals because they are dieting and think that's the way to lose weight quickly.

Also another note from my experience and interaction with some ladies, those who I've witness to choose the no-eating dieting are often frail yet limber and those who follow the atkins (or similar) are a tad overweight and are looking to melt down the hips, arm fat, or simply lower their BMI. I've found the body type preference for me is athletic and tone, neither skinny and frail, nor extra padding, and those with the athletic tone have a healthy amount of fat on them and eat on a similar schedule as I do. A balance of all food groups. Again just my observation.

I agree, dieting is stupid and unhealthy. How fucking hard is it to just eat proper, well balanced meals? That's right: it isn't.

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Originally posted by jennypie I agree, dieting is stupid and unhealthy. How fucking hard is it to just eat proper, well balanced meals? That's right: it isn't.

i'm with you on that but if you are really poor it is extremely difficult because cheap food is unhealthy.

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Okay, time for another 6 motha-fucking mile run tonight, I'm pumped as it's relatively dry ground, cool and spitting rain, perfect for outdoor running/training

I'm aiming for a steady 40 minutes if possible here.

last night was the first time i actually through i pulled my hamstring. it was pretty muggy out so i decided to get on the treadmill at the gym so i started running and i felt great, i was doing really well, i felt really good at about the 2.5m mark my left hamstring started to feel really light, almost as if i didn't feel it, then i felt kind of like a slipping feeling almost pre-crampish. I instantly stopped the treadmill . It sucked too cuz I was on pace to knocking out the 5k in under 29mins which would be great for me. I think I ended at a 21min 2.5m and had a glorious sweat going. also didn't help that i was running between two pretty cute girls owells.

lifted chest after my run and felt great...tonight it's bikram to sweat and stretch out, everything is sore...especially my upper back, neck, and legs. could use a good stretching session anyways!

It sounds like you stopped the treadmill at just the right time nyce. Any longer and you probably would have done more damage to that muscle. At 4000metres for 21 minutes, you were probably heading more towards a 27:30 - 28 minute 5k, which is a major improvement.

I'd normally recommend you give those legs a rest tonight if you felt something going last night, as there could be an underlying problem there just waiting to be aggravated, but I know I'm probably not gonna convince you otherwise

A good pre-stretch and a steady bike ride may do you good, just to loosen them up a little. If you feel a twinge though, I would give the leg a rest for another couple of days.

I managed a 6mile 40 minute steady paced jog last night, so it's now about consolidation for me and slowly building up the mileage.

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Originally posted by get nyce

what time is bikram maybe i'll join you. i'm all types of sore and contemplating not going to the gym at all tonight or very lightly exercising...

eternal - yea I really wanted to knock that 5k out last night i felt great up until the 2-2.25m mark, then it felt kinda loose and i knew that i was pushing myself so i stopped. i was thinking about going for a bike ride tonight but i think my legs can use a rest, but am worried this weekend i might not get any in. Maybe I'll get some in on sunday and take today-saturday off. Before last night I ran Tuesday morning so I figured all day tuesday/wednes should have been enough rest, guess i can use a better recovery plan. I'm teetering on tonight as I'd like to get into bikram and sweat my ass off

wai - i think tonight's session is at 830 on 72nd street, i may be going with my neighbor but she's more of the advanced then me.

bikram's schedule - http://bikramyoganyc.com/schedule_uws.html

i might just find a nysc class, i thought you took classes there. i'll probably sit on the bike and watch so you thin you can dance

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Originally posted by chimera66 i'm with you on that but if you are really poor it is extremely difficult because cheap food is unhealthy.

huh?

Rice, pasta, bread, vegetables and fruit are expensive?

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Originally posted by Beat Blog huh? Rice, pasta, bread, vegetables and fruit are expensive?

well for some people the cost of time in preparing rice and pasta is not worth it if you can get instant gratification with fast food

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Originally posted by Beat Blog huh? Rice, pasta, bread, vegetables and fruit are expensive?

fresh fruit and veggies are expensive. personally, i spend a good chunk of money on food that's good for me.

if you have a family and pretty low income it is more cost effective to buy ready made cheap stuff like mcdonalds meals. white bread which is crap for you costs less than whole grain wheat and fruit cocktail in a can costs less as well. meat isn't exactly cheap either, the lower the fat the more expensive it is and meat without hormones costs more too. iceberg lettuce verse argula /spring greens costs less and not as good for you. i can go on and on.

to eat well costs money and if you are poor you don't have the money to put toward it. can you try to eat well, of course but realistically with a lower income it's more difficult to eat as well.

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Originally posted by chimera66 fresh fruit and veggies are expensive. personally, i spend a good chunk of money on food that's good for me. if you have a family and pretty low income it is more cost effective to buy ready made cheap stuff like mcdonalds meals. white bread which is crap for you costs less than whole grain wheat and fruit cocktail in a can costs less as well. meat isn't exactly cheap either, the lower the fat the more expensive it is and meat without hormones costs more too. iceberg lettuce verse argula /spring greens costs less and not as good for you. i can go on and on. to eat well costs money and if you are poor you don't have the money to put toward it. can you try to eat well, of course but realistically with a lower income it's more difficult to eat as well.

Point fairly made. I agree with you that food high in vitamins and important stuff is expensive, but carbohydrates are ridiculously cheap. You can buy a two week supply of rice for like $10.

agreed but if all you eat is carbs you probably aren't that healthy

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Originally posted by chimera66 agreed but if all you eat is carbs you probably aren't that healthy

Agreed, but eating 3 meals of basic carbs a day is better for you than eating 3 meals of McDonalds a day.

edit: my own diet is disgusting. I eat probably 10 pieces of fruit a year, and 6 serves of vegetables a week.

Most of my meals consist of simple things like pasta/rice, then I take multivitamins ($10 a week) to get what I'm missing in nutrients.

It seems to work okay, I only get one cold a year. If I wasn't well off and had to feed a family, I'd be taking this route I think.

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