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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Can you post (if possible) this vocal by itself (at least like 30 or so seconds) so I/we could analyze the condition of it and recommend potentially some solution on how to fix it. Darek

This is the complete vocal stem,dry. I am contemplating reworking the song and may have to use less vocal than I wanted {I swear this vocal stem sounds like someone is doing something in the background}
At any rate....I sincerely appreciate the assistance and feedback from all of you.
I also agree with a lot of your comments.
I do think the drop deserves more attention. Maybe a SC/Compress on the bass?
I also feel it needs some high frequency influence in there. I am envisioning a sort of pulsy driving stab kind of groove...now I just gotta do it
/sigh why don't they just make helmets that let us get our musical thoughts from our brain on to our daw

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Originally posted by scorpradio Well, this is my first listen and I say I do like the production of the song. I also like your arrangement of tones. The issue I am having is that it almost feels like it is two different songs melded to mix only because of the bpm. If you ask me...ditch anything you have before 2:09. After that, what you have sounds really good man and imho the "true" song.

I just wrote a reply and for some reason it didn't come up! Anyway. Yeah, the writings on the wall. I'm gonna piss of the gated synth bit and do a new intro that leads to the first guitar pluck section. Thing is, I'll need to use a synth to support the guitar, but this sound will also have to work within the rest of the track, I don't wanna use the choir pad used in the breakdown, if I can I'd like to leave it just in that section, if I can't come up with something decent I may have to use that sound, but I wanna avoid it sounding like the song playing twice within itself! I'll turn the gated synth bit into another song!

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Originally posted by Seandroid

Great track! It has the darkish vibe, but at the same time maintains the "easy going" catergory. Maybe you could also experiment with vocal chops over some parts?

Nevertheless top notch track!

Your backing vocals 3:02-> sounds awesome! How many takes it takes for you to get your backing vocals sound great?

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Originally posted by madmuso

As scorpradio said it kinda feels like two songs. One thing to point out the kick loses it "boominess" at 6:16-> perhaps some limiting issue as the plucks are pretty wide and loud. I really dig that melody. So you could build around that?



Here is one of my older stuff, i might actually finish this. I'll propably rework the entire intro part. Especially the drums. The lead which starts the buildup will come to play on the chorus too.

Those pops are from bittersweet as i have widened high chord lead. these pops dont seem to appear on the arrangement though?

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Originally posted by Seandroid This is actually an older track by me that I decided to revisit to get it to be release quality. I re-recorded the verse and shortened the track by like 3 minutes. Worked out pretty well. Still have some work to do on the vocals I think but yeah!

spanking good track mate, no crits

So here's a dub mix of this track 'Are u' I've been working non

Transitions and vocals need more work.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler So here's a dub mix of this track 'Are u' I've been working non Transitions and vocals need more work.

The low end is missing and a sustained sub could help. The percussion is working very well.
I hope that helps.

first track since my break in november. enjoy

feedback welcome as usual and questions welcome

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Originally posted by Domesty Here is one of my older stuff, i might actually finish this. I'll propably rework the entire intro part. Especially the drums. The lead which starts the buildup will come to play on the chorus too. Those pops are from bittersweet as i have widened high chord lead. these pops dont seem to appear on the arrangement though?

I would take first 30 sec of this WIP and work with it - must say that this is really sweet concept with massive potential

Darek

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Originally posted by Seandroid This is actually an older track by me that I decided to revisit to get it to be release quality. I re-recorded the verse and shortened the track by like 3 minutes. Worked out pretty well. Still have some work to do on the vocals I think but yeah!

Sean, this could be very strong track if you some how could add a 16 or maybe 32 bars with a massive lead playing some sweet melody over your existing morphing bass lines - this would create this really moving and driving melodic vibe which is the only one missing from this beauty - my $0.02

Darek

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Originally posted by scorpradio This is the complete vocal stem,dry. I am contemplating reworking the song and may have to use less vocal than I wanted {I swear this vocal stem sounds like someone is doing something in the background} At any rate....I sincerely appreciate the assistance and feedback from all of you. I also agree with a lot of your comments. I do think the drop deserves more attention. Maybe a SC/Compress on the bass? I also feel it needs some high frequency influence in there. I am envisioning a sort of pulsy driving stab kind of groove...now I just gotta do it /sigh why don't they just make helmets that let us get our musical thoughts from our brain on to our daw Vox by Systematicx1 on Mixcloud

Did you try to upload your vocal ? - can't get it to rum lol ???

Darek

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Originally posted by Evolve140 first track since my break in november. enjoy feedback welcome as usual and questions welcome

As I always judge and strive to achieve is production quality. You already seem to know how something should sound clean in a mix. Keep that up man. Seems only a little polishing is all you need.
Good sense of bass
If I could critique this piece I would encourage to build more swing to your percussion elements. Use different timing methods but build swing.
In other words,give it a groove =OP
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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Did you try to upload your vocal ? - can't get it to rum lol ??? Darek

Darek,

Sorry man...corrected!

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Originally posted by scorpradio -------------- Darek, Sorry man...corrected!

From my first run sounds like this is the music she is recording to lol and someone already was trying to do volume automation this problem but didn't do a good job. You could clean it up more by doing it again (volume automation) and see if this is not going to bite too much out of your vocal quality.

Cheers man,

Darek

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 From my first run sounds like this is the music she is recording to lol and someone already was trying to do volume automation this problem but didn't do a good job. You could clean it up more by doing it again (volume automation) and see if this is not going to bite too much out of your vocal quality. Cheers man, Darek

THANK YOU!! I thought I was going crazy
Yea, thinking the same thing. This is an awful stem and will probably just minimizing the amount of vocal in the track.

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Originally posted by scorpradio THANK YOU!! I thought I was going crazy Yea, thinking the same thing. This is an awful stem and will probably just minimizing the amount of vocal in the track.

Here is the original steam (from vocalist) which I was ask to create remix from - you can see that if you have great stem your job is much more easy lol and you can be really creative. This original track was a trance one in 140 bpm lol.



Cheers,

Darek

thanks for checking scorp. i will check out the groove and see if i can pimp it out a bit more. believe it or not there is a lot of different swing and timing component to all of the elements especially the drums. i don't use loops or anything like that in any of my tracks. everything is all by hand, but listening now i can imagine expanding on the percussion.

btw this is the first thing i've worked on in 3 months so yeah. not too shabby i hope haha

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Originally posted by Evolve140 first track since my break in november. enjoy feedback welcome as usual and questions welcome

This has a nice originality to it, and I like the way you dare to be so Spartan. Nice soothing mix.

My annoying WIP has changed again, now into something like trance, weird.
I might add a vocal?

Domesty's track inspired this by the way. Not sure if I have the bass right, esp' the timing.

Not mixed yet. Claps need centring etc, and more sub.

thanks! haha what do you mean by spartan?

any thoughts on its completeness or what it may be lacking musically/dance track wise?

going to outro it, then it's done? the age old question

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Originally posted by Evolve140 thanks! haha what do you mean by spartan? any thoughts on its completeness or what it may be lacking musically/dance track wise? going to outro it, then it's done? the age old question

I'd say it could use a memorable stand out item of some sort, maybe a little home made vocal tribe thing or whatever.
Spartan - I mean nice and clean with few sounds at one time playing, often very effective.

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Originally posted by Seandroid Yup! That's me singing. I still have some work to do, I'm actually thinking of re-recording some of the chorus vocals as well. I'll check out your tune when I get home! I'd just call it electro house but you could also probably call it big room.

cool, nice singing mate. Hey What mic and pre did you use?

p.s. I still wanna here the hook section peak some more! Pulled out of the driveway yesterday and that hook just popped into my head, thats a good thing!

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Here is the original steam (from vocalist) which I was ask to create remix from - you can see that if you have great stem your job is much more easy lol and you can be really creative. This original track was a trance one in 140 bpm lol. Cheers, Darek

Yea man...much easier to deal with. And I know JUST what you mean about the 140 bpm. Those are tough as hell

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Originally posted by Robotrance i want to participate to thread. i was in greece last summer and tried making a melody i heard ever since. this is as close as i come lol. http://picosong.com/Lpyi/

Heh. I grew up in a Greek neighbourhood--this sounds like electronic bouzouki.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Yea man...much easier to deal with. And I know JUST what you mean about the 140 bpm. Those are tough as hell

Yeah, sorry this track is already my remix version of 140bpm original one but the vocal is as it was in this trance version lol -> this vocal was really, really good and clean so my work was obviously limited as far as reworking and repairing - Amy is really great to work with and Dave can really conform that lol

This remix was about exposing the smoothness and lightness of Amy vocal and with some addition of leads (which I was trying to create some form of conversation between them like in 2:05 and more with piano parts) I was able to create this melancholic but vibe driven atmosphere.

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Yeah, sorry this track is already my remix version of 140bpm original one but the vocal is as it was in this trance version lol -> this vocal was really, really good and clean so my work was obviously limited as far as reworking and repairing - Amy is really great to work with and Dave can really conform that lol This remix was about exposing the smoothness and lightness of Amy vocal and with some addition of leads (which I was trying to create some form of conversation between them like in 2:05 and more with piano parts) I was able to create this melancholic but vibe driven atmosphere. Cheers, Darek

Darek, your productions are always tight as hell man.
Thing that stands out is the piano movement...very bright.
That kick!
And you nailed the melancholy vibe...
(more bass /chuckles)

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Originally posted by scorpradio Darek, your productions are always tight as hell man. Thing that stands out is the piano movement...very bright. That kick! And you nailed the melancholy vibe... (more bass /chuckles)

So which part did you like and which you would like to improve (if this is all up to you lol).

Darek

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