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Posted by diego on May-28-2004 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
lets say you decide to start off with DB shoulder shrugs using 90s or 100s. You do 5 sets.


is it really neccsary to do so many sets?


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:14:

need to do at least 3.


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:15:

why?


Posted by Floorfiller on May-28-2004 16:17:

because he wants to?


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:21:

Because every fitness magazine, every trainer ive talked to, and the several body builders I personally know have all said that three is the minimum # of sets to do to see real growth and strength gains throughout all the muscle fibers. You just look fat if you do power sets of 1 and 2.


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:21:

i'm just trying to understand the reason behind doing so many sets, or why they are neccsary, just seems like alot


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Because every fitness magazine, every trainer ive talked to, and the several body builders I personally know have all said that three is the minimum # of sets to do to see real growth and strength gains throughout all the muscle fibers. You just look fat if you do power sets of 1 and 2.


what are power sets


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:23:

i've recently started doing 3 sets instead of 2, but never could see myself doing 5


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:25:

your muscles are composed of thousands of fibers. THey can be broken down into the strong "sprint" class, and the weaker "marathon" class. If you only do a few sets the relatively small # of sprinting class fibers will just do their regular duty and maybe get slightly stronger and larger. you will never utilize the remaining 70% of your muscle if you dont do enough sets to tire out the sprinters and get the marathoners going. Thats also why they say for best growth with definition gains, also do sets of 8 or higher.

Look at body builder then look at power lifters/"Strong Men"

youll get big either way, but one tends to be less strong but better looking.


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:27:

Power sets are doing 6 reps or less.


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:29:

wow 8 sets, talk about killing it!

ye i don't do power sets, a while back i started on them, while not meaning to, was trying to increase the weight too fast


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:32:

opos i meant 8 reps sorry lol. 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps.

then 2 exercises per muscle.

ie bench then lat pulls then calf raises then incline flies then seated rows then hamstring curls


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:33:

i getya, that makes more sense


Posted by trancebrat on May-28-2004 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
opos i meant 8 reps sorry lol. 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps.

then 2 exercises per muscle.

ie bench then lat pulls then calf raises then incline flies then seated rows then hamstring curls




Orbax is the man!


Posted by Floorfiller on May-28-2004 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
opos i meant 8 reps sorry lol. 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps.

then 2 exercises per muscle.

ie bench then lat pulls then calf raises then incline flies then seated rows then hamstring curls


calves and hamstring aren't the same muscle group...that's why you get crappy legs hehehe...j/k


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:34:

lol fine quds instead of calves. I was just throwing random stuff out damn you.


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
Orbax is the man!


the hell is that supposed to mean


Posted by Floorfiller on May-28-2004 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
lol fine quds instead of calves. I was just throwing random stuff out damn you.


i'm just fucking with ya hehehe

on a serious note...

i think its all about switching it up.

when i first started working out i'd do 5 sets per exercise, 20 reps per set for about 6-7 different exercise. i thought it worked great, but of course things have changed a little since then. i usually still do 5 sets per exercise, but i definitely try and hit 12 reps.


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:36:

ye looks like she's trying to make fun of you


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:38:

floorfiller, how long you being training?


Posted by Orbax on May-28-2004 16:38:

yeah I agree. Since this thread started Ive started mixing up and throwing some exercises that I wasnt doing before and Ive already noticed slight changes in composition. That ExRx site also helped with some new ideas.

I was also realizing i was getting myself into a rut by doing the same weights every damn time hehe. So ive started pushing it and having hard workout again.


Posted by Floorfiller on May-28-2004 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
floorfiller, how long you being training?


probably since around 7th grade. i think that's when my friend and i started getting into it hehehe. i don't know how long that is...maybe 8-9 years?


Posted by Floorfiller on May-28-2004 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
yeah I agree. Since this thread started Ive started mixing up and throwing some exercises that I wasnt doing before and Ive already noticed slight changes in composition. That ExRx site also helped with some new ideas.

I was also realizing i was getting myself into a rut by doing the same weights every damn time hehe. So ive started pushing it and having hard workout again.


yeah...don't get lazy and leave the weights at the same weight...you gotta try and increase. i remember i used to increase weight at least 5lbs every other time. i think increasing the amount of weight you can do definitely helps you to gain size.


Posted by diego on May-28-2004 16:42:

that's a long time, and have your goals changed over the years or is it still 1 goal your trying to achieve


Posted by trancebrat on May-28-2004 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
the hell is that supposed to mean



Silly...because of your typo.


You know that I have nothing but love for you...even if it didn't seem that way last night.


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